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New York population fails to grow since 2005 (NY to lose 2 electoral votes)
The Citizen ^ | 12/22/06

Posted on 12/22/2006 2:29:22 PM PST by LdSentinal

ALBANY - Thousands of people left New York for other parts of the country last year, making it one of only three states that failed to grow since 2005, according to census estimates released Friday.

New York's estimated population on July 1 was 19.3 million, a drop of 9,538 from a year earlier, the U.S. Census Bureau reported. That drop is minuscule - 0.0005 percent - and based on estimates rather than an actual count. But census demographers say it shows New York's population remained virtually unchanged over the year.

New York and other Northeast states have suffered for years as residents - often young people just out of college - head to the Southwest and other high-growth areas.

The new estimates provide evidence that is still happening: 255,766 more people moved out of New York to other states than into the state between 2005 and 2006. Part of that exodus can be attributed to immigrants who came into the country through New York City and then moved on, often to areas with a lower cost of living.

But Robert Ward of the Business Council of New York State said it can be partly attributed to people heading to Texas and other states that are growing jobs at a faster rate.

“People are moving elsewhere in search of opportunities that they're not finding in New York,” Ward said.

The Census did not provide geographic breakdowns Friday. But population losses and jobs have been particular problems in upstate New York. Gov.-elect Eliot Spitzer has promised to place the upstate economy high on his agenda after he takes office Jan. 1.

The only other states to post population losses were Katrina-ravaged Louisiana, Michigan and Rhode Island. The District of Columbia also lost people. New York's neighbors all recorded growth under 1 percent.

The Census reported that the Northeast grew by 62,000 people.

E.J. McMahon, director of the fiscally conservative Empire Center for New York State Policy, said that other Northeast states did not lose people at the same rate as New York. He said New York and other states that lost people quickly tended to have high living costs (like downstate) and sluggish economies (like upstate).

McMahon said those problems can be addressed through policies to spur economic growth, like lower taxes and fewer mandates in New York.

“You can't say 'We can't because it's cold and old,' because there are other cold and old places that are not shrinking like New York state.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: census; depopulation; immigration; liberal; migration; newyork; population; rustbelt
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To: bruinbirdman

What's a yitbo?


41 posted on 12/22/2006 4:55:32 PM PST by tanuki
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To: LdSentinal
Let's hear it for the 'Rats and RINOs running NYS.

Into the ground.

42 posted on 12/22/2006 4:57:07 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You may think it looks better, but don't forget the 20,000,000 Mexicans, or is it 30,000,000?


43 posted on 12/22/2006 5:07:44 PM PST by nygoose
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Me, too (if you consider Antioch inner-city). Are you in the Mad Hatter's State Senate district ?


44 posted on 12/22/2006 5:31:27 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, "Hispanioch" is another thing altogether. I live in East Nashville. There are some nice homes in Antioch, but the language barrier!


45 posted on 12/22/2006 5:47:51 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: LdSentinal

Not only the confiscatory taxes, utilities and the lousy weather. everything is forbidden except that which is mandatory.


46 posted on 12/22/2006 6:10:04 PM PST by jack308
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To: Emmett McCarthy

It's more Black than Hispanic where I live. I tend to think of Nolensville Road as being more what you describe. I've lived in the same house all my life (will be 33 years - a record for this notoriously transitory area), and the demographics completely shifted from all-White to what it currently is. Sadly, we don't know our neighbors anymore. All our former White neighbors fled to Rutherford and Williamson Counties.


47 posted on 12/22/2006 6:18:51 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

"True, but you're still causing our taxes to rise."

Not really. Looks more like your city planners are not up to their jobs. Taxes SHOULD be paid for equally. When new peeps move in, the property taxes THEY pay should cover costs. The few exceptions being for new schools and other MAJOR expendatures. Heck, even increased police / firemen labor costs should be covered by the "newcomers" property tax. Sounds like you need to keep a closer eye on local pork spending to me.


48 posted on 12/22/2006 6:38:25 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: ICE-FLYER

I live in CT not Texas.


49 posted on 12/22/2006 6:40:26 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

"Well, "Hispanioch" is another thing altogether. I live in East Nashville. There are some nice homes in Antioch, but the language barrier!"

Is it that bad in Nashville now? I moved out to Colorado in 99' but was born and raised in West Nashville. I know that a lot of Mexicans moved in around my Dad before he passed.


50 posted on 12/22/2006 6:44:55 PM PST by dljordan
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To: dljordan

It just depends on where you are. It's interesting that despite how many Hispanics are in Nashville, they have no representation, either on the Metro Council or legislature, although for the Council, that is likely to change in the next election.


51 posted on 12/22/2006 6:49:57 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: taxed2death

My bad, read it then got hooked on the yankkes gone south thing! :)

Being from Boston I share your northern tax-paying pain. Now I am forced by military service to be in the Police State of Schumer-Clinton NY. Again it would be a great place were it not for the people who legislate AGAINST you 24/7/365.


52 posted on 12/22/2006 6:52:32 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: LdSentinal

Great news for the nation.

I'm anxious to see the political bloodbath that is coming here to Massachusetts in a few years. Can't come soon enough.


53 posted on 12/22/2006 6:56:00 PM PST by Radix (Tag Line remains uncensored)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

South on Nolensville Rd. from 440 I think a passport is required.


54 posted on 12/22/2006 7:02:59 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: ICE-FLYER

MD

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My husband and I moved from Maryland in 1999 after living there for 18 years. It is a mess. We now live in a rational and safe red state.

The government schools are horrible. The adult illiteracy rate in my rural county ( with only 1% immigrants) was an astounding 20%.


55 posted on 12/22/2006 7:23:10 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Yup, New York State (Dutchess county and parts north of that) are one of my fav riding areas in the summer, the roads are so much better than here in CT.

I looked as some property in the Catskills a few years back and was aghast at how much the property tax would have been for 30 acres of woodland.
56 posted on 12/22/2006 7:36:15 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Well I left up there to get away from it... I don't care how we did it up there. I don't want it HERE. I feel when in Rome, or North Carolina...


57 posted on 12/22/2006 7:46:23 PM PST by myrabach
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To: dave48170

NYC metro population is growing - upstate is being evacuated.


58 posted on 12/22/2006 7:48:00 PM PST by oceanview
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To: myrabach

That's the ticket!


59 posted on 12/22/2006 8:39:45 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: LdSentinal

Unfortunately, they seem to be moving to Arizona, Nevada and Texas. I pray they are not bringing their liberal voting patterns with them.


60 posted on 12/22/2006 8:40:57 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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