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JOBS WHO WON'T DO? (immigration debate's hoariest cliche libels American workers)
NY POST ^ | 12/22/06 | EDITORIAL

Posted on 12/22/2006 4:54:19 AM PST by Liz

One of the hoariest cliches in the immigration debate is that illegal aliens in the workforce "do the jobs Americans won't do" - hence the need for a general amnesty......Vicente Fox said it....President Bush has referred to "good, honorable, hardworking people here doing jobs Americans won't do" as he tried to drum up support for his "path to citizenship" ........

But is the conventional wisdom true? Last week, as part of a broader ID theft and illegal-document probe, ICE agents raided Swift & Co. plants in six states - rounding up hundreds of illegal workers. Yet the plants managed to stay open - albeit with serious manpower shortages. The Rocky Mountain News reports, "The line of applicants hoping to fill jobs vacated by undocumented workers.....was out the door."

......25,000 showed up to apply at Wal-Mart outside the Chicago city limits. Even in this good economy, many Americans are working hard to find jobs...

....most poor immigrants - legal or otherwise - work hard .....But it is almost a libel on the industriousness of American workers - to blithely say that a liberal immigration policy has little impact on employment or wages because the jobs being taken are ones "Americans won't do."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration; swift
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1 posted on 12/22/2006 4:54:21 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Workers Line Up To Fill Meat-Processing Plant Vacancies After Raids

Gee, guess Americans will do them after all....

2 posted on 12/22/2006 4:56:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Liz

Geraldo was hysterical about how bad the working conditions at meat packing plants are. Funny, my father-in-law and 2 of his brothers worked at packing plants in Iowa for years...and even as adults!!!

I think Americans will do a lot of the hard jobs that some people are only fit for illegals...it just might cost more than six bucks an hour for them to do it.


3 posted on 12/22/2006 4:59:55 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: perez24
Geraldo was hysterical about bad working conditions at meat packing plants.....

Geraldo musta been coached---his emails and cell phone records might show. These people know how to work the system---they are suing everything in sight.

Betcha illegals and their sue-happy legal teams of bullies plan to file suit against meat-packers for "sub-human working conditions" that kept illegals "enslaved."

4 posted on 12/22/2006 5:16:56 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Liz
The challenge for the meat packing industry will not be attracting native born workers, it will be retaining them - yearly worker turnover of 70% and above are not unusual in these plants.

Unless pressure is maintained on management to change hiring practices we are very likely a year from now we are likley going to be back were we started.

5 posted on 12/22/2006 5:49:39 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Liz
"good, honorable, hardworking people here doing jobs Americans won't do""

And if we make them citizens, who will do those jobs?

6 posted on 12/22/2006 5:51:15 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
And if we make them citizens, who will do those jobs?

Next years crop of illegals?
7 posted on 12/22/2006 5:53:55 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Liz
"Geraldo was hysterical about bad working conditions at meat packing plants....."
I haven't seen him so worked up since his days of defending Clinton.
8 posted on 12/22/2006 5:54:20 AM PST by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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To: Kozak
"Next years crop of illegals?"

Phew! For a minute there I thought those jobs might go unfulfilled.

9 posted on 12/22/2006 5:59:03 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Liz
Exactly.

The 'jobs Americans won't do' has been a fake claim all along.

Stats show that around 15% of 'those' jobs are held by illegals. So that means the other 85% ARE being done by non-illegals, a.k.a. legal Americans.

The 'jobs Americans won't do' line worked for a while, but the public has wised up. Stats just don't support it.
10 posted on 12/22/2006 6:02:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: robertpaulsen

Not as long as we have a "virtual" border....


11 posted on 12/22/2006 6:08:35 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: duckman

Probably had to sedate him later----LOL.


12 posted on 12/22/2006 6:10:48 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Kozak

Funny you should mention that--before I moved out of (read: escaped) the DPRK (Demokratik People's Republik of Kalifornia) there was a day-laborer/illegal alien activist clamoring for--are ya ready for this--A MINIMUM WAGE OF $15 AN HOUR FOR DAY LABORERS!

Some stuff you can't make up if you tried.


13 posted on 12/22/2006 6:12:15 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Liz

I am sick and tired of the scare tactics, give me a break. I don't care, raise the cost of beef, chicken, lettuce, etc. The rise in price will never reach the cost of free education, health care, food stamps, etc., that the illegals suck up each day. Grass will still be mowed, McDonalds will remain open and houses will still be built, it's all a bunch of BS!


14 posted on 12/22/2006 6:28:20 AM PST by panthermom
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To: perez24
Both parents of a very good friend of mine, also worked at those plants in Iowa.

They raised a family of 4 children, dad is now deceased but mom is retired from one plant, that employed most residents of that town for as long as anyone can remember.

What an insult to my friend to refer to the only jobs his parents ever held, as only fit for "illiterate illegals, who speak no English."

15 posted on 12/22/2006 6:46:28 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower (Kansan))
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To: OCCASparky

I bailed on Cali in 97. Never looked back.


16 posted on 12/22/2006 6:57:04 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak

"I bailed on Cali in 97. Never looked back."

Don't look now, but it's following you.


17 posted on 12/22/2006 7:22:03 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: panthermom

Amen, and amen.


18 posted on 12/22/2006 7:34:55 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: EEDUDE
Don't look now, but it's following you.

It will never catch me....
19 posted on 12/22/2006 7:35:18 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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20 posted on 12/22/2006 9:38:34 AM PST by gubamyster
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