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Marine Charged With 13 Civilian Murder Counts (Haditha)
MSNBC ^ | 12/21/06

Posted on 12/21/2006 11:03:18 AM PST by areafiftyone

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. - A Marine Corps squad leader was charged Thursday with 13 murder counts stemming from the killings of 24 civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha last year, his attorney said.

Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich was charged with 12 counts of murdering individuals and one count of murdering six people by ordering Marines under his charge to "shoot first and ask questions later" when they entered a house, according to charging sheets released by defense attorney Neal Puckett.

As many as eight Marines could be charged in the case, the biggest U.S. criminal case to emerge from the war in Iraq in terms of people killed.

The deaths occurred on Nov. 19, 2005.

Lawyers for two Marines already have said they expect their clients will be charged and it’s believed up to six others could join them.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; murtha; pendleton; usmc; wuterich
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Non-Sequitur
If they're guilty then it'll be life at Leavenworth.

For 13 counts of murder? I'd be guessing a firing squad would be formed. That, or a gallows erected. I personally favor the former for a warrior to die, criminal or not.

22 posted on 12/21/2006 11:30:36 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Txsleuth
I would really like to be in the courtroom and listen to ALL of the evidence.

Exactly, sleuth. Now it's their turn to present their side of a combat action.

From the beginning, Time magazine, Jack Murtha, unnamed (supposed) DOD sources and the majority of the enemedia have declared them guilty, they were not even afforded the completion of the investigations. Their presumption of innocence was ignored.

It's despicable, especially the actions of Congressman Jack Murtha!

23 posted on 12/21/2006 11:31:31 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Bump!


24 posted on 12/21/2006 11:34:02 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE CONTINUE ON TO VICTORY!)
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To: areafiftyone

Sick, sick, sick, sick. How can we expect our soldiers to fight a war so handicapped? The ROE is a f-cking joke!!! The guys who worked for me in Kuwait knew it. Shoot and be wrong and you go to jail. Don't shoot and be wrong and you die. What kind of war is this???

We expect 25 year old men to make life-and-death decisions and we don't back them up????? My anger knows no bounds. :(


25 posted on 12/21/2006 11:36:27 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: RedRover

Please put me on the ping list.


26 posted on 12/21/2006 11:37:28 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: areafiftyone

charging someone with murder in that situation, is like giving out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.


27 posted on 12/21/2006 11:39:27 AM PST by oceanview
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To: jjm2111; RedRover

You're on jjm, welcome.


28 posted on 12/21/2006 11:40:20 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Zemo
Since when did Marines become police?

It was about the same time that police officers became social workers and border patrol agents had to begin worrying about the civil rights of drug runners.
29 posted on 12/21/2006 11:40:37 AM PST by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: Zemo
"I have no clue why many on this website supported that doddering 'gosh-golly-gee-willikers' old fool of a SoD."

Well newbie ... we'll sit here patiently and see if you actually engage in dialog before you're zotted.

Otherwise we present our collective @$$es for you to kiss.

30 posted on 12/21/2006 11:41:30 AM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: ExSoldier
For 13 counts of murder? I'd be guessing a firing squad would be formed. That, or a gallows erected. I personally favor the former for a warrior to die, criminal or not.

If I recall correctly the Marine brass announced early on that they weren't going to seek the death penalty.

32 posted on 12/21/2006 11:43:33 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: areafiftyone; RedRover

God help the man!

Because the military has certainly deserted him!!!


33 posted on 12/21/2006 11:44:00 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I knew a couple of Border Patrol agents who had faith in our government too. They are headed for prison thanks to politics.

I pray that politics won't send these men to Leavenworth.


34 posted on 12/21/2006 11:45:22 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: areafiftyone

This is BS, what a clusterf*ck.


37 posted on 12/21/2006 11:48:10 AM PST by AliVeritas (Even if a mother forgets the child of her womb, I will not forget you.)
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To: Txsleuth

The problem is... it's get shot first, then return fire... after you question them nicely. This PC is crap, they need to untie the rules of engagement.

A lot of us here know this is BS; We worked on this for months along with Stratasphere, the milblogs and others.


38 posted on 12/21/2006 11:50:53 AM PST by AliVeritas (Even if a mother forgets the child of her womb, I will not forget you.)
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To: areafiftyone
So instead, during WARTIME, our US military should be SHOT AT (and killed) first???

Pathetic. I am now in the camp of let them fight or bring them home. Though I pray we wake up and fight!

39 posted on 12/21/2006 11:50:56 AM PST by Libertina
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To: ishabibble

Sites is a POS who should have been fragged, I told him that personally.


40 posted on 12/21/2006 11:51:55 AM PST by AliVeritas (Even if a mother forgets the child of her womb, I will not forget you.)
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