The Conservative Case Against Rudy Giuliani

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[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Rudy Giuliani, a contender for the Presidency in 2008, is receiving an inordinate amount of positive attention.
That's quite understandable since Rudy is charismatic, did a great job on the campaign trail for President Bush in 2004, and his phenomenal performance after 9/11 was much appreciated.

However, likeable or not, having Rudy as the GOP's candidate in 2008 would be a big mistake.
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said.
He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions.
"No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded."

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices.
Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

[HaveHadEnough]

...terrorism pales in comparison to abortion as a threat to this country's existence.

I disagree. Terrorism is a greater threat to our existence. Abortion is a greater threat to our soul.

[Alberta's Child]

"That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category."

Did he know that he was talking about someone who is an avowed communist and an ardent supporter of the ACLU's political agenda?

[airborne]

Did you hear about Hillary?

She is crooked and shrillery!

Between her eyes,

Socialism Lies.

But between ITS thighs,

The smell draws flies!

[Alberta's Child]

Terrorism is a greater threat to our existence. Abortion is a greater threat to our soul.

Oh, please. "Terrorism" was able to kill 3,000 Americans in an attack of historic proportions on 9/11. That's less than the average death toll in this nation's abortion clinics for one day.

Even the government of New York City stopped taking terrorism seriously not too long after 9/11 -- and now considers firearms, second-hand smoke, and trans-fats to be the biggest threats its residents face today.

[HaveHadEnough]

If you think our losses to terrorism amount to the deaths on 9/11 or that terrorists do not seek the entire destruction of our way of life you are mistaken.

[JSDude1]

No one should, beside I have always said that the real opponents are not "social conservatives" or "fiscal conservatives" or a combination thereof, but those whom want to DESTROY the Conservative Coalition (this includes the media, liberals, and yes-liberal republicans whom dislike one faction of the republican party over another)..

Most don't fit in this category, but some have been persuaded to go along with it by the media, etc..

[Alberta's Child]

What the heck is "our way of life" anyway? Whenever I hear some leftist moron like Michael Bloomberg make the claim that "They [terrorists] hate our way of life," I find myself wondering if I don't hate his definition of "our way of life," too.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Not bad but I could not finish the ditty while throwing up!

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

"He started a program to put Arabic speakers on a fast track for promotions. "

I could see getting proficiency pay but not jumped above people that may well be better!

So you say he is a raciest!

Nope Never Nada.

[tacticalogic]

Can't do that.. Atheism and secular humanism are both religious..

Why not?

[muleskinner]

Even in purely mathematical terms, terrorism pales in comparison to abortion as a threat to this country's existence.

Yeah, let's just ignore terrorism and all terrorist threats, because they are so statistically insignificant in purely mathematical terms, of course. /mega-sarc/

Admit it, you didn't pay your heating bill, 'cuz you hate "our way of life", and you now have brain freeze.Go cut some firewood and thaw out.

[JCEccles]

GIULIANI: Sure. That's be exactly the kind of person you'd think that you'd want to appoint, somebody who shares kind of your general outlook,

In short, Giulaini is likely to appoint SCOTUS justices with the philosophical outlook of a Ginsberg.

A fat clue right from his own rabidly socially liberal mouth.

[JCEccles]

Terrorism has killed thousands. Social liberalism has killed tens of millions, and all their progeny.

The math isn't difficult.

[Thunder90]

I thought that Rudy called for the Administration to follow the Baker Commission's recommendations, including a phased withdrawl.

[hosepipe]

[ Can't do that.. Atheism and secular humanism are both religious.. / Why not? ]

Both religion and government enforce morality..
They are reciprocal to one another.. two sides of the same coin..
No matter how liberal or authoritarian they are

[FreeInWV]

All of the above indicates that Giulianni would find Ginsberg to be an ideal SCOTUS nominee.

Remember when the president nominated Harriet Miers? This place reeked of bitterness and feelings of betrayal. It had republicans at each other's throats. Just imagine how much worse it would be if the president nominated a Ginsberg!

[OldPossum]

He's a liberal. Case closed.

Darn right, he's a liberal but don't put it past the stupidity of the American public to vote him in. Could happen and that's scary.

[tacticalogic]

Both religion and government enforce morality..
They are reciprocal to one another..
two sides of the same coin..
No matter how liberal or authoritarian they are

That sounds like an assertion that there is no such thing as a not-theocratic goverment, and that we should abandon the idea that we can have one and resign ourselves choosing a theology.

[EnochPowellWasRight]

"NYC was a crime ridden hell hole and you were afraid to walk at night."

Probably because NYC has laws that prohibit effective personal defense. You do know why the Sullivan Act was enacted and who it protected, right?

[hosepipe]

[ That sounds like an assertion that there is no such thing as a not-theocratic government, and that we should abandon the idea that we can have one and resign ourselves choosing a theology. ]

It does doesn't it..

Kind of hard to beat the Jews theocratic government of old.. where every seven years ALL debts(of any kind) were automatically forgiven(and more) and every fifty years ALL lands was returned to its original owners(and more)..