Posted on 12/19/2006 3:59:27 PM PST by Paul8148
Because the GOP, and America, need Rudy now.
More than ever.
by DaveG @ 5:40 pm. Filed
(Excerpt) Read more at race42008.com ...
I like Steve Forbes.....but nobody would give him a chance.
He won the AZ primary, kicked Dole's ass.
Oh well.
Yeah.......that really makes a whole lot of sense and is such logical and rational thinking........NOT!
If a president could halt all abortions, with the wave of his hand, or a signature, it would have already been done. Get a grip and buy a dozen clues!
It'll have to be netflicks.
Yes, I know, I supported Forbes; he was my man.
got the ping and signed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate Ebert, but I'll take YOUR word that these films are good. Again...thanks for the info and the links. :-)
The point is that Rudy seems to have a sense of humor, and every politician in N.Y. gets involved in the festivities. Dressing like the opp. sex for entertainment has been a part of Western Civilization.(See ancient Greece) Not my cup of tea, but Victor Victoria was very popular around the country.
Why did you drag RR into this?
I've posted similar good things that Rudy did in NY...I've been there many many times BR, DR and AR....the changes were amazing...I'm also of the opinion most who oppose Rudy have never heard him in person live....I've always posted to no avail that if you have the opportunity to go hear not only Rudy but any major candidate live to try your best to go hear them....then make up your own mind....without being negative I doubt many will even try to do that....I've always done that and consider it as important in making up my own mind as it is to go vote....another thing some can't be bothered to do....but the whining just goes on and on
My favorite is not discussed in the article. Honor Mother and Father. The story is of a 18 year old girl, raised by a single father. She discovers that her father carries a letter written by the mother for the daughter to read when she is an adult.
She steals it and is it information she doesn't want to know?
The dynamics are fascinating and the ending is unexpected.
I need to watch all 10 again, its an amazing series and its done by one of the late great filmakers of the last few years. And, it really does portray the gloomy quality of life in Warsaw, I can attest to how authentic it was at the time.
2) He ALSO CUT the size of government, in N.Y.C.!
I realize that those blinkers are a problem, when you are trying to read, so take them off; pet.
Governing The USA is a bit different than doing the same in N.Y.C., to some degree. And yes, Rudy would make a very good president. However, nowhere did I claim that he would govern the USA "exactly" as he did N.Y.C.! I doubt that he would be telling every local which streets should run north and which south, for example.
FYI............Reagan instituted some of THE most lenient abortion laws, when he was governor. Did he do THAT as president?
"I do not understand the mindset of you Rosie O'Donnell Republicans: You have the opportunity to have a GOP base ENTIRELY united against a Hillary candidacy in 2008, and you choose the one candidate - the ONE candidate - who is unacceptable to an actual majority of the party according to polls such as those on Free Republic."
Fine, I'll explain it to you then;
What we classical Republicans object to is a party in which our voices (those of moderation) are all but drowned out by panty-bunched, bible-thunmping, self-righteous hypocrites who have elected themselves as the arbiter of all that is good, all that is right and all that is American. While I am forced, by the constraints put upon one by wanting to live in a civil society, to respect what you stand for, I strongly object to having it forced down my throat. Just as I don't like what the "other side" is selling, we find your version of America to be just as dangerous and devoid of liberty.
We object to is having the field of potential political candidates artificially narrowed by a skewed process in which such people have been given power and responsibility far in excess of their actual numbers. We are sick and tired of a divisive political debates which always degenerate into a biased comparison of modern society (with all it's faults) versus an idealized version of the 1950's which existed nowhere, except on television (with all of it's faults conveniently overlooked).
We're sick and tired of arguing with people who cannot define "republican", "conservative", "liberal", or "progressive", with any accuracy at all, and who then persist in their stupidity by expounding on the conservative value of this, or the liberal value of that, based upon that inperfect understanding. Talking out of your backside is supposed to be the province of the democratic party, not mine.
We're sick and tired of government by the simultaneously sanctimonius and hypocritical, and that extends to the internal workings of our party. We're sick of a party that can muster a majority vote to save a vegetable, but can't muster the same support to keep us from going bankrupt from runaway entitlement programs, or find the wherewithal to keep our fellow citizens from wallowing in raw sewage in the wake of a disaster.
We're sick and tired of a political landscape in which personalities, appearances and personal shortcomings count for far more than actual policies and actions, and in which political debate is carried on in the same atmosphere as two old washer women gossiping over the back fence, tsk-tsking and putting the gossip into the context of "what would the Preacher think?".
We're disgusted by the hypocrisy put forward by the notion that Political Correctness is a disease germain to democrats, and yet the first things you usually read on these Guiliani threads is the old Fag-Lover-Gun-Grabber-Adulterer line. Republicans and ersatz conservatives have their PC and orthodoxy too, are just as vicious in enforcing it, and tend to ignore it because their heads would explode if they ever recognized it.
We're sick and tired of having progress, on the fronts where it's possible, stopped dead in it's tracks by the ability of a small, but vocal, constituency to make a tremendous racket over issues that don't a) properly beling in the realm of government to begin with and b) would cause open revolt if they were ever truly realized and implemented.
We're sick and tried of people who continue to wail that, often, half a loaf is the same as no bread, and then call themselves "principled" for their obstinance, shortsighthedness and obnoxiousness.
"You have the opportunity to have a GOP base ENTIRELY united against a Hillary candidacy in 2008..."
Ummm, we already have that now. Raising the spectre that the perpetually panty-bunched and the God, Guns and Gays coalition will magically flip for Clinton if we don't get Jesus on the ticket is disingenous. Stop making this argument because it doesn't fly, and you know it.
" Vote Hillary to save Conservative movement from elimination in GOP in favor of becoming new Libertarian Party."
That's rich! You have to be on drugs to have written this. If I had to depend on you to "save" my party, based on some of the nonsense you've posted here, I'd be inclined to let it sink. You were Captain of the Titanic in a prevous life, right?
"Eight years ago, it was hard to imagine a universe where I would ever cast my vote for a Clinton. Rudy Giuliani would actually make me do that. Cut losses in 2008, start rebuilding."
Right. Rebuild without the religious whack jobs, the gun nuts and the gay bashers. I'm all for that. The line to leave starts over there, sir. You know, this was the same strategy you guys tried once before; make the Republican party suffer so badly, they'll crawl back to us! Well they did. They took your money and their votes, and what did you get for it? So who really suffered? Well, if you wish to continue to play with matches, that's your business, but as I've said in these threads before, given the complete failure of your version of conservatism these last six years, what makes you think being more hardheaded is the answer? You are, in effect, making the same argument made by the apologists for communism: "Communism works, we just haven't found the right communists yet".
"Of course, who would've ever predicted the speed at which the Libertarian Republicans would want to purge the grassroots elements of the party after they already lived through those years (Dem Supermajorities on a regular basis)."
Ummmm, actually it's the other way around: the self-righteous idiots are seeking to push the rest of us out. We're just pushing back. Your way just failed spectacularly, so let the people who live on Planet Earth take over for a bit. Go back to doing what you do best: tilting at windmills and screaming at God to save you from this-that-or-the-other, and let us go back to what we do best: running the country.
"I'll say it again: We Social/Moral/Cultural/Grassroots Conservatives are not going to just abandon all of our issues and become anti-gun Social Libertarians for the good of the GOP. We are loud and clear. Anoint Hillary at your own risk. We will not support Rudy Giuliani!"
Fine. Nobody asked you to. You are perfectly free to vote for whoever you wish to. However, I just know that when you lose, it will somehow be my fault because I didn't follow. When we win, it will be disappointing to you because the day after Inauguration, the concentrations camps will still be empty. The problem with folks like you is that you are never happy. Never will be. It must have been popor toilet training or perhaps Momma stoped breast feeding early, but it has resulted in an arrested, narrow, 15th century, superstitous mindset which the rest of us find extremely distasteful, to say the least, and often hysterical, at best.
Get over yourseves already.
The cut off your nose to spite your face crowd HATE facts; facts are their undoing. These are the same people who always wind up on the losing side and then claim that as a victory. I don't understand that, but it IS true.
They also do a LOT of pretending, fantasizing, and lying. It's akin to trying to having an honest debate with a spoiled 2 year old, in th throws of a temper tantrum and about as much fun.
It sounds incredible! I can't wait to see it. :-)
---"He ALSO CUT the size of government, in N.Y.C.!"---
No, he didn't. More gun laws, more taxpayer-funded abortions, more government workers.
No thanks to that in the White House.
I won't sell my soul and everything I believe in for a tax cut. I'd rather lose in 2008 and start over for 2012 than see Rudy win and watch all the issues I care about get purged completely and entirely from the party indefinitely.
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