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Emails Shed Light On ISG Intentions (Dang Funny Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 12/18/2006 | Mike Ackley

Posted on 12/17/2006 10:37:59 PM PST by goldstategop

Our source must remain covert, but we have gained access to a series of e-mails between James A. Baker III and Lee A. Hamilton, co-chairmen of the Iraq Study Group. (Actually, the ISG designates them as "co-chairs," but even a cursory look shows neither of them to be furniture.) The messages' content sheds an interesting light on the ISG's 79 recommendations. We submit these messages below, without comment:

Dear Jim: I've looked at the draft of the ISG recommendations. Do you think anybody will notice there aren't really 79, and that a bunch of them repeat or extend other recommendations? And do you think the entire report is unnecessarily, shall we say, windy? – Lee

Dear Lee: Nobody will notice. Heck, we could number the paragraphs and call each one a recommendation. We could have 200 if we wanted and nobody would say boo. As for being windy: Congress spent a million bucks on this thing. We have to give the people some bulk for their money. Have you seen the secret "Executive Executive Summary"? – Jim Dear Jim: Thanks for your input. Yes, I received the Executive Executive Summary, and I agree with it, but don't you think its single sentence, "Solve all Middle East problems from Somalia to Kashmir," is a bit too brief? – Lee

Dear Lee: I think you're right about the Executive Executive Summary being too brief. It needs at least two sentences. – Jim

Dear Jim: Two sentences would be about right. Do you have anything in mind? – Lee

Dear Lee: You bet. It also should say, "Sell out Israel." – Jim

Dear Jim: You've got it. – Lee

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Related matters: Remember the good old days, when anti-American Americans criticized their country for failing to foster democracy in the Middle East?

"All the United States cares about is OIL!" they would say. "We just prop up corrupt dictatorships – the royal family of Saudi Arabia in particular. We never do anything to promote democracy in the region."

Then along came George W. Bush, fostering democracy in Iraq, and anti-American Americans had to change their tune. Suddenly, the United States was indulging in cultural imperialism, forcing its values on an unwilling populace. U.S. insistence on a constitutional democracy in Iraq became "condescending."

Our "condescension" must play well among the millions of Iraqis who plunged their index fingers into purple ink, in both fear and joy, to participate in the democracy the United States fostered.

Anyway, the anti-American Americans' new approach fits well with the current, rampant, values-free academic diversity mongering, and never mind that it's a total contradiction of the old "we never promote democracy" complaint.

The outburst here is occasioned by an article in my alma mater's alumni magazine, wherein a couple of political scientists opine that "making democracy promotion a core foreign policy doctrine ..." is a mistake.

Such a policy, they say "... is a systematic claim by the United States that we get a massive say in the domestic political arrangements other states create for themselves."

One must surmise that these scholars take a dim view of the "democracy promotion" that occurred in Europe and Japan following World War II. I believe the United States had a rather "massive say" in the affairs of the Axis nations following that conflict.

The academics continue, "In our view, democracy promotion was never deeply embedded in American foreign policy thought. Rather, it was a substitute rationale for the Iraq war after the non-discovery of weapons of mass destruction."

Really? This is belied by Bush's prewar speeches, which cited WMDs but also declared America's intention to create a free (read "democratic") Iraq.

Exempli gratia: "The current Iraqi regime has shown the power of tyranny to spread discord and violence in the Middle East. A liberated Iraq can show the power of freedom to transform that vital region, by bringing hope and progress into the lives of millions. America's interests in security, and America's belief in liberty, both lead in the same direction: to a free and peaceful Iraq.

"The first to benefit from a free Iraq would be the Iraqi people, themselves. Today they live in scarcity and fear, under a dictator who has brought them nothing but war and misery and torture. Their lives and their freedom matter little to Saddam Hussein – but Iraqi lives and freedom matter greatly to us."

The two scholars suggest that the next U.S. administration will have to "recapture a sense of humility. ..."

I have to think it would be better if academia – accurately represented by these characters – recaptured a sense of national interest and national identity, as well as an accurate portrayal of recent history.


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Dang Funny Bump

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 12/17/2006 10:38:02 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

ping


2 posted on 12/17/2006 11:09:20 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: goldstategop
Much of it is pretty funny, but there's one point that's in error...

Really? This is belied by Bush's prewar speeches, which cited WMDs but also declared America's intention to create a free (read "democratic") Iraq.

I don't think that it was a mere oversight that President Bush evaded the word "democratic" for more than a year. It was wise not to promise "democracy" when we weren't sure what the majority might want!

Freedom, however, can exist without democracy...just as a democracy can exist without freedom. Unfortunately, the Administration eventually threw caution to the wind when things looked good, and now they have used the D-word.

3 posted on 12/17/2006 11:18:44 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

That assumes that the people your are talking about are cynical, calculating, unprincipled, and amoral. That does not describe George Bush or the people who support him.


4 posted on 12/17/2006 11:32:15 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt

So you think that George Bush is too stupid to know better?!?

Better go back to your MTV.


5 posted on 12/17/2006 11:36:51 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: ClaireSolt
That assumes that the people your are talking about are cynical, calculating, unprincipled, and amoral. That does not describe George Bush or the people who support him.

The more I thought about this, the more I am disturbed by your portrayal. In others, it could perhaps be ignorance, but you are a self-described historian. To ascribe such traits as "unprincipled and amoral" to those who know the dangers of democracy means you are taking a swipe at the very Founders of this Republic! Perhaps you think Madison's head was full of onion soup when he wrote Federalist X, but I, for one, think he was right.

To my knowledge, even where "democracy" was used in a question asked of the President during the first year of the war, he responded with the word "freedom"...so I doubt it was unintentional.* I choose to give him credit for recognizing that a mobocracy could have led to terrible human rights violations....and if that's cynical and calculating on his part, so be it. I call it wise.

And now I can go back and grab an hour more of sleep before getting ready for work. :-)


*if anyone has any contrary examples, I'd love to hear of them!

6 posted on 12/18/2006 2:39:31 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
[i]That assumes that the people your are talking about are cynical, calculating, unprincipled, and amoral.[/i]

Hang on a second...

What does it mean if I am "critical, pretty good at math, principled and moral"???

And funny???

I could probably become a Senator, or at least a Govenor...

I'm too hated to be President, I'm afraid...
7 posted on 12/18/2006 5:50:52 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Gondring

Madison's head was full of "French Onion Soup"...

Need to be specific there muh man! ;-)


8 posted on 12/18/2006 5:52:35 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Gondring

How you flatter yourself. I was not thinking about the founders, I was taking a swipe at your sophomoric analysis.


9 posted on 12/18/2006 1:36:33 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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