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Zimbabwe Has No Plans To Turn Over Convicted Ethiopian Dictator (Mugabe protects Mengistu)
allheadlinenews.com ^ | December 13, 2006

Posted on 12/14/2006 3:15:09 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Harare, Zimbabwe (AHN) - Zimbabwe will not turn over former Former Former Ethiopian dictator Mengistu Haile Miriam, despite his conviction of genocide.

William Nhara, a spokesperson for President Robert Mugabe's government, says, "As a comrade of our struggle, Comrade Mengistu and his government played a key and commendable role during our struggle for independence and no one can dispute that."

"The judgment is an Ethiopian judgment and will not affect his status in Zimbabwe. As far as we know there is no extradition treaty between Harare and Addis Ababa."

Mengistu, who has been living in exile in Zimbabwe since he fell from power in 1991, was convicted of charges ranging from genocide, to imprisonment, homicide, and illegal confiscation of property.

Ethiopia's Federal High Court convicted Mengistu and 71 other defendants for their parts in the "Red Terror." According to the U.S. government, "The enormity of government-sponsored operations against suspected political opponents during the 'Red Terror' has defied accurate analysis and has made attempts at quantification of casualties irrelevant."

"Sources estimated that, during 1977-78, about 30,000 people had perished as a result of the Red Terror and harsh conditions in prisons, kebele jails, and concentration camps."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; baseketball; baselessaccusations; christian; christianity; concentrationcamps; durkadurka; islam; jihad; nukemecca; racism; religionofpeace; reparations; rop; slaveryreparations; wordgames
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To: zimdog
Actually, the rule against personal attacks such as this one is fairly explicit: "NO personal attacks" is on every "posting comment" page below the "post" button.

Making accurate descriptive comments about the disruptive behavior of another person is not a personal attack. Nor is telling trolls - which are banned from FR - that they're trolling, troll.

261 posted on 01/11/2007 3:09:37 PM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
Apples and oranges. 2% of a military unit, as with the FFL forces you describe as being "muslim," is a tiny fraction. With the German officers included, the jihadi SS units would've been somewhere in the 99% muslim range.

Apples and oranges again. 20,000 of approx. 18 million is a tiny fraction of the overall troop strength. Whereas Muslims constituted a plurality of the FFL's African troops, a group that was itself a significant portion of the FFL.

263 posted on 01/15/2007 4:02:00 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Really? Cause the OED definition you produce said absolutely nothing about Arabs. Yet you explicitly insisted it was an anti-Arab racial slur in practically every post up until then.

You mean the definition: "1921 Dialect Notes V. 111 *Raghead, a Hindu; any Asiatic. From the turbanned Asiatics who are common on the campus [of the University of California]," right? "Asiatic" was the racial term used for Arabs at this time. So while it is not necessarily exclusive to Arabs, it is a slur directed at the people of southwest Asia, inclusive of Arabs.

Please remember that you still have not provided any academically reliable (or unreliable) evidence that the term refers specifically to Muslims, as you had claimed.

264 posted on 01/15/2007 4:11:30 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Nah, voodoo suffices, it being synonymous with junk heathenistic pseudo-religions.

I see you're favoring your definitions over others. Perhaps you have some dictionaries or other textual authorities that are considered reliable by academic standards?

265 posted on 01/15/2007 4:12:51 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
They mentioned a desire to protect the Constitution from Allende, and supported the military's intervention to do so. Pinochet did not become head of the military until August 23rd. Frei had been calling for Allende's ouster for several months by that point though. He quickly endorsed the Chamber of Deputies' call on August 22nd, and supported the newly appointed Pinochet as the one to lead the military response.

I'll ask you again: Did these letters mention anything about Pinochet's alleged desire to protect the Constitution?

266 posted on 01/15/2007 4:13:36 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Less than 1% of the entire population of Gabon is an awfully small pool to draw from.

Of course, Gabon did not constitute the entirety of French Equitorial Africa. You know that, but you're being dishonest again.

267 posted on 01/15/2007 4:14:48 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
He led the constitutional convention that produced the current Chilean Constitution, all while leading the CDP opposition party. Frei also publicly campaigned for the 1980 constitution referendum - not exactly an act of "strident" political opposition you purport.

These were all actions that would limit the power of Pinochet's junta, albeit gradually.

The military filled the executive branch's absence with a junta consisting of the commanders of each branch and ruled until the Allendist militias were put down in 1974. Pinochet transferred its power into a restored executive branch in December 1974, taking the office of President.

All done in violation of the constitution.

A functioning constitution in Chile ceased in early 1973 when Allende declared himself able to unilaterally overrule the other 2 branches. So none. Remnants of the 1925 Constitution were still functioning in the Chamber of Deputies, which called for Allende's ouster on August 22nd for his previous violations and refusal to restore the parts he had suspended. Allende's suicide left the military in charge of a dysfunctional government that had no executive branch (all of the cabinet ministers either fled or were arrested as Allendist criminals in their own right) and a power-striken judiciary. The only semi-functioning remnant, the legislature, was controlled by a CDP plurality, that along with the conservatives gave its support to the coup.

It sounds like you're claiming that the situation justified the coup. Such a claim is in direct violation of article 4 of the constitution: "Ninguna majistratura, ninguna persona, ni reunion de personas pueden atribuirse, ni aún a pretesto de circunstancias estraordinarias, otra autoridad o derechos que los que expresamente se les hayan conferido por les leyes. Todo acto en contravenvion a este artículo es nulo."

Pinochet's office as commander of the armed forces placed him well within the line of presidential succession under Allende.

Oh, okay. Just tell me which article of the constitution placed him well within that line of presidential succession. Because I didn't see any mention of the commander of the armed forces in article 66.

Not if Frei endorsed Pinochet and threw his own support behind the military.

No, you're still confusing "support" with "legitimacy" and "Frei" with "the constitution". It was not in Frei's power to abdicate responsibility in favor of a chosen successor. Pinochet violated articles 3 and 4 of the constitution.

268 posted on 01/15/2007 4:24:30 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Because it lacks specific sourcing or explanation of how you arrived at that number.

I told you that 1/3rd was a conservative estimate.

You will also notice significant disparity in muslim populations for each of the colonies you named, ranging from as low as 20% to as high as 100%.

Funny comment, coming from someone who tries to sneak Gabon's 1% muslim population into a description of all of French Equatorial Africa. Remember that the numbers you gave ranged from 1% to 50%.

Here are the average recruitment breakdown from 1920-1947:

Upper Volta -- 22.01%

French Soudan -- 20.49%

Senegal -- 16.52%

Guinea -- 15.77%

Ivory Coast -- 14.30

Niger -- 1.84%

Mauritania -- 0.67%

[Togo is not included in the figures because it was not part of the French West Africa colony, but rather it was a League of Nations trust territory administered by France.]

269 posted on 01/15/2007 4:30:52 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
The muzzies served right along side plenty of blue eyed blond haired Germans in the 2nd Panzer army. Hitler sent 'em there because the Soviets were making a push straight for his beloved blue-eyed, blonde haired Austria and Hungary was the gateway.

This statement does not address the factuality of my claim that Nazi leaders in Berlin preferred to send their Slavic troops to the front lines.

270 posted on 01/15/2007 4:35:19 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Except that the Visigothic claim to Spain came directly from Roman Emperor Honorius.

Honorius had lost effective control of the Iberian lands conquered by the Vandals and essentially offered lands that were no longer his to give in an attempt to stay the Visigothic attacks on Rome's Italian territories.

So I'll ask you again, how long were the Moors in Iberia?

271 posted on 01/15/2007 4:40:33 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Making accurate descriptive comments about the disruptive behavior of another person is not a personal attack.

And what, pray tell, was my "disruptive behavior," other than disagreeing with you, newbie?

272 posted on 01/15/2007 4:41:37 PM PST by zimdog
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
It's amusing that you and yours always bring forth the specter of a single lone wacko as if that's comparable to the THOUSANDS of Muslim terrorist attacks over just the last decade.... Actually, it's not amusing. It's pathetic.

You could say the same thing about your desire to round up and jail innocent Muslims, including Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That wouldn't stop terrorists like McVeigh, but it would probably make you smile to know that the country was rendered moslemrein.

'm willing to bet you define "innocent Muslim" to include Jihadis....

Then, I'm willing to bet you don't understand what "innocent" means. You've already established that you're willing to make losing bets, after all.

Those "Americans" are at war with America.

When did Kareem Abdul-Jabbar declare war on America? When he was coaching middle school students on the Navajo reservation?

Don't insult our intelligence by denying your purpose here, Muslim.

Are you using "Muslim" as an insult, like the Nazis used "Jew"?

273 posted on 01/15/2007 4:49:09 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar

average breakdown out of a recruiting quota of 10,000/yr. Actually enlistment numbers jumped to 70,000 at the start of the war.


274 posted on 01/15/2007 4:51:00 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
" That wouldn't stop terrorists like McVeigh, but it would probably make you smile to know that the country was rendered moslemrein. "

McVeigh is all you have as evidence of non-Muslim terrorism here. Pathetic. Oh, and it's very offensive to equate the victims of real Nazis with the fellow travelers of the Nazis. Typical for your arguments, of course....

"Then, I'm willing to bet you don't understand what "innocent" means. "

I know how your Muslim friends define "innocent". Do you know what the word "dhimmi" means - what it actually translates to?

"When did Kareem Abdul-Jabbar declare war on America? When he was coaching middle school students on the Navajo reservation? "

He adheres to an ideology that seeks to overthrow the Constitution.

"Are you using "Muslim" as an insult, like the Nazis used "Jew"?"

What a morally bankrupt comparison. No, I call you Muslim because I believe you are one. It explains your purpose on this forum quite well. You certainly argue as if you were. The "Muslim" as "victim" hypocrisy, for instance.
275 posted on 01/15/2007 5:35:35 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
McVeigh is all you have as evidence of non-Muslim terrorism here.

No. Just the most well-known.

He adheres to an ideology that seeks to overthrow the Constitution.

I'll ask again: When did Kareem Abdul-Jabbar declare war on America?

What a morally bankrupt comparison.

It's pretty apt. The hissing disgust you typed into that word is almost audible. Perhaps you've never had to deal with anti-Semitism spat in your ear as you walk down the street, but I have. And, EPWR? It sounded just like your posts.

. No, I call you Muslim because I believe you are one.

You've already proven your willingness to take losing bets. Now you're showing that you don't even bother to read a man's posting history before you tar him with what you consider to be insults.

276 posted on 01/15/2007 5:47:27 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
"No. Just the most well-known. "

More like all you have.

"l ask again: When did Kareem Abdul-Jabbar declare war on America? "

When he converted to the ideology of the enemy of his country.

"It's pretty apt. "

It isn't apt at all.

"The hissing disgust you typed into that word is almost audible. "

I have contempt for those who hold themselves to the ideology of Islam just as I have contempt for those who followed Hitler. THAT is what YOU defend here. You defend the original national socialism.

"Perhaps you've never had to deal with anti-Semitism spat in your ear as you walk down the street, but I have. And, EPWR? It sounded just like your posts."

Most "anti-Semitism" derives from the Middle East and Islam.

"Now you're showing that you don't even bother to read a man's posting history before you tar him with what you consider to be insults."

I've read enough, zimdog. You defend the indefensible. You defend evil with the tactics of the Left. Interesting you post here, isn't it?
277 posted on 01/15/2007 5:59:14 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
More like all you have.

Perhaps you only read the news you like...

When he converted to the ideology of the enemy of his country.

So you want to lock up Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for his religious views alone?

THAT is what YOU defend here. You defend the original national socialism.

It would be interesting to see you prove that, seeing that it's false.

Most "anti-Semitism" derives from the Middle East and Islam.

Downplaying Nazi atrocities, are you?

I've read enough, zimdog.

If there's one thing you have proved, it's that you haven't read nearly enough.

You defend the indefensible.

Says the concentration camp advocate hissing religiously bigoted insults.

278 posted on 01/15/2007 6:05:05 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog

"Perhaps you only read the news you like... "

99% of international terrorism is driven by Islam.

"So you want to lock up Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for his religious views alone? "

Islam isn't just or really a religion. It's a "will to power" ideology.

"It would be interesting to see you prove that, seeing that it's false. "

You defend Islam. Ergo, you defend an intolerant and racist ideology. Are you saying you don't?

"Downplaying Nazi atrocities, are you? "

Hardly. Are you downplaying the Grand Mufti and his position with Hitler? Are you going to downplay over a thousand years of oppression, murder, and death?

"If there's one thing you have proved, it's that you haven't read nearly enough. "

You have an entirely distorted view of the worth of your posts.

"Says the concentration camp advocate hissing religiously bigoted insults."

Civilized nations have always interned enemy nationals until the war was over. Your side just kills them. BTW, why do YOU see being accused of being a Muslim - a "faith" you claim is peaceful - an insult? I intended it merely as a statement of your side in this debate. You are a Muslim and very likely from North Africa here on a student visa.


279 posted on 01/15/2007 6:11:43 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
99% of international terrorism is driven by Islam.

Source, please.

Islam isn't just or really a religion. It's a "will to power" ideology.

I'll again, do you want to ship Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to a concentration camp because of his religious views?

You defend Islam. Ergo, you defend an intolerant and racist ideology. Are you saying you don't?

I am defending innocent Americans that you want to imprison based on nothing more than their religious and/or ethnic background.

Hardly.

Then why are you downplaying Nazi anti-Semitism?

Civilized nations have always interned enemy nationals until the war was over.

Downplaying Nazi atrocities.

why do YOU see being accused of being a Muslim - a "faith" you claim is peaceful - an insult?

Becuase you used it as an insult. I've heard far too many pointed statements end with "... Jew" to know what an insult is. Don't deny it. Your posting history proves that you think Muslims sind Üntermenschen and now you're practicing that filth on FR. Go away, N00b.

You are a Muslim and very likely from North Africa here on a student visa.

St00pid n00b at that. Too busy shining your jackboots to read?

280 posted on 01/15/2007 6:27:51 PM PST by zimdog
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