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Libertarian GOP defection?
Townhall.com ^ | Tuesday, December 12, 2006 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 12/12/2006 7:37:39 AM PST by Small-L

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To: Small-L
"Basically, libertarians are allied with the right on economic issues and the left on everything else."

Wow. I didn't know that libertarians were for:

bigger, more intrusive government
gun-control
affirmative action
expansive government "healthcare"
abortion funding
activist courts and judges
embryonic stem cell research funding
government monopoly schools
Nanny-state control over environmental issues (and everything else)
Social Security
invasive use of eminent domain
etc., etc., etc....

jw

101 posted on 12/12/2006 9:54:17 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Beagle8U

I'm afraid you misread my post.


102 posted on 12/12/2006 9:54:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: longtermmemmory

Whole lotta hand ringing over a whole lot of nobodies.


103 posted on 12/12/2006 9:55:27 AM PST by DManA
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To: Preachin'
Can I pitch in a couple of suitcases?

Yea. Give us the suitcases. Good luck getting the House, or the Senate for that matter, after the divorce.

L

104 posted on 12/12/2006 9:59:10 AM PST by Lurker (Historys most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: tacticalogic

Newt wrote a platform and shamed republicans into supporting it. It was enormously successful politically. Republicans threw Newt and his platform into the garbage. Americans threw Republicans into the garbage.


105 posted on 12/12/2006 9:59:26 AM PST by DManA
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To: Alberta's Child
He's the guy who insists -- based on his libertarian principles -- that the government has no business outlawing drugs, but then turns around and calls on the government to expand drug treatment programs for people who "need them."

That fictional person wouldn't be a Libertarian.

L

106 posted on 12/12/2006 10:00:15 AM PST by Lurker (Historys most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: Antoninus
...by the various liberaltarians on FR...

Thank you for making my point.

Care to discuss the GOP's departure from Reagan's or Newt's philosophies of government? Perhaps a discussion of why the Republican Party campaigned on and even had planks calling for the elimination of the Departments of Commerce, Education, and Housing and Urban Development while the current GOP expanded them by 82%, 101% and 59% respectively. Or maybe you can explain the conservative principles behind the Medicare Drug program, NCLB, or the 29,000+ earmarks.

107 posted on 12/12/2006 10:01:51 AM PST by Small-L
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To: MNJohnnie
We would be FAR better off if the losers simply LEFT

Guess what Scooter, we did.

How do you like us now?

Enjoy the minority Johnieboy.

Get used to it.

L

108 posted on 12/12/2006 10:01:54 AM PST by Lurker (Historys most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: Lurker

"Yea. Give us the suitcases. Good luck getting the House, or the Senate for that matter, after the divorce."

As well as those Senate seats the LP caused us too.

Good job that the LP did bringing us all together, huh?


109 posted on 12/12/2006 10:02:01 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Waryone
Christian Conservatives...

Well written Wary. I think you and I can agree on the role of government vs. the role of the church.

110 posted on 12/12/2006 10:04:12 AM PST by Small-L
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To: Antoninus

The entire thought process of liberaltarianism is warped. Less taxation, tax and legalize drugs. Govt is meant to only protect the people, open borders for all. Right to life, kill the unborn at will. Right to bear arms, I am sure there is some bullet tax there. Then when you disagree with them it is all lies and that we are all kool-aid drinkers. Frankly I have come to find out that libertarians fal into three different groups.

A. Liberals who feel taxes are too high
B. Conservatives who got caught doing an illegal act and were convicted, ie dopesmokers, cocaine users etc.
C. Anarchists who want the destruction of most forms of centralized authority.


111 posted on 12/12/2006 10:04:35 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Preachin'
Good job that the LP did bringing us all together, huh?

You're the ones who keep telling us about that "big tent".

Next time try bringing the walls and the ceiling. Maybe we'll be able to find it.

L

112 posted on 12/12/2006 10:07:47 AM PST by Lurker (Historys most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: aft_lizard

What part of RR do you feel was warped? Or his platform in '84 and '88? Or Newt's Contract for America?


113 posted on 12/12/2006 10:12:24 AM PST by Small-L
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To: Leatherneck_MT
" They point at everyone else and say "YOU didn't do what you were supposed to, we LOST because of YOU!"

Judging by a lot of posts on this thread, it goes a lot farther than that, they're not just saying "it's your fault," they're saying "get lost and stay lost." Maybe they'll get their wish.

The fact that so many freepers consider individual freedom, personal liberty and limited government to be "liberal" constructs goes a long way toward explaining why libertarians might think twice about voting Republican.

114 posted on 12/12/2006 10:12:35 AM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: Small-L
Care to discuss the GOP's departure from Reagan's or Newt's philosophies of government?

There's nothing to discuss. We agree on these issues.

Now if only we could get you folks to admit that two men playing house is a really bad idea that should not be recognized as a "marraige" at any level of government, then we'll be getting somewhere.
115 posted on 12/12/2006 10:13:17 AM PST by Antoninus ("Dealing with the pampered and effeminate Americans will be easy." --Osama bin Laden)
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To: Common Tator
You do not have to be void of reality to be a libertarian, but I have never met one who was not.

Wow, I just love these sweeping generalizations. And the insults. Those are especially fun. I wonder why it might be that you say that the libertarians can't be be relied upon for votes for the republican candidates? It wouldn't possibly be the sweeping generalizations, the easy dismissal, or the insults, would it? Nahhhh.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Mark

116 posted on 12/12/2006 10:14:27 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: DManA

"I'm afraid you misread my post."

OK, sorry if I did. I'll have to reread them.


117 posted on 12/12/2006 10:14:43 AM PST by Beagle8U
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To: VaBthang4
Good, all Loserdopians get out and stop pretending to be conservatives.

... keep up the puritan-mercantilist-militarist nonsense and they bloody-well will. see what a few dozen thousand of them can do to electoral results nationwide? stop trying to make the G.O.P. party into the G.O.D. party whose symbol is a cross made out of missiles painted with dollar signs and wrapped in the star of David.

118 posted on 12/12/2006 10:16:35 AM PST by muleboy (muleboy303.blogspot.com)
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To: VaBthang4

>>Good, all Loserdopians get out and stop pretending to be conservatives<<

Ultimately, they are all just labels. Nobody fits any of them perfectly.


119 posted on 12/12/2006 10:17:17 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Antoninus

I think the libertarian position on gay marriage is that marriage is a religious institution and government has no business sanctioning any variety of it.


120 posted on 12/12/2006 10:20:41 AM PST by DManA
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