Posted on 12/10/2006 11:57:45 AM PST by FairOpinion
Rudy Giuliani remains the most popular presidential hopeful for Republican Party sympathizers in the United States, according to a poll by Opinion Dynamics released by Fox News. 30 per cent of respondents would vote for the former New York City mayor in a 2008 primary.
Arizona senator John McCain is second with 23 per cent, followed by former House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich with nine per cent, and Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney with eight per cent. Support is lower for Kansas senator Sam Brownback, New York governor George Pataki, and California congressman Duncan Hunter.
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Well, unfortunately these kind of polls go by what people self-identify as. Republican registration is an objective fact. Remember, Nancy Pelosi called her self a conservative grandmother, but she isn't really what you would call an "evil conservative." (How come you refer to the governor by his first name, but you refer to the Democrat candidate by his last name?)
I don't believe your contention. The conservatives don't stay home, they go out an vote for the Republicans in every election. The reason the GOP lost this year is because they lost too many swing voters.
How come you don't show statistics for how many liberal Republicans (and the state party) didn't vote for Simon. By your definition, it's okay for Republicans to not support conservative candidates, but they have to rally around liberal candidates. Loyalty only goes one way.
I don't see the relationship between Gore in TN and Giuliani in NY. Perhaps because... there isn't one.
I am concerned about Romney and his Mormonism(not that there is anything wrong with that in my view), flip-flopping on social issues and any involvement in Big Dig/Boston fiasco. Santorum is seen as a radical fundamentalist fanatic by suburban independents all over America. I think he is great but he has no chance. Gingrich, come on, his negatives are worse than Hillarys and when the whole marital issue gets revisited, they will go even lower. Remember how he messed up the 98 midterms. McCain and maybe Rudy are the only ones, though far from perfectly clean or conservative, can win as things are now.
I'm not very happy with the selection of candidites right now. Brownback is closest to what I would want to see in a candidate, but his support of illegal alien amnesty issue bugs me. I am not going to hold my nose and vote for a RINO who is a RAT on social issues, or has made a mockery of their marriage vow. My litmus test is the observance of the canditate's Christian faith, thru their actions and not just their words.
Does anyone think Condi will jump into the mix?
Explain to me why leftwing Democrats can get elected in very conservative states, but moderate or conservative Republicans are "not allowed" to run in blue or purple states.
Okay, that settles it. FairOpinion has provided his opinion and that should be enough.
These discussions always leave me wondering what conservatism even means. To me, its essence is small, Constitutional government. To others, it means other things. Seems like we have to find consensus on the "must-haves" of conservatism, vs. the "nice-to haves."
Ask the voters of Pennsylvania, his home state, which dumped him by a humiliating margin.
"Can you explain that?"
Don't be dumb. My postings here have no effect on national opinion polls, and neither does yours.
Giuliani ain't going to win the republican nomination. Sorry.
"I don't see the relationship between Gore in TN and Giuliani in NY. Perhaps because... there isn't one."
Then you must be blind. Gore's home state is Tennessee, which he didn't win. So arguing that Giuliani wins New York because that is his native state doesn't jive, especially if his opponent is also from New York.
I disagree. I'm in PA -- Casey didn't win. No one I know, republican or democrat, liked Casey. He stood for absolutely nothing, and his campaign was a pathetically transparent cut-and-paste of donk talking points.
Santorum left his base on spending issues, and alienated others with all the stupidity around where he lived, cyberschools, etc. If he can't win PA, he's not a viable national candidate.
arguing that Giuliani wins New York because that is his native state doesn't jiveWho said that? Not me.
I said what I said and it wasn't those words, which must be rattling around in your head somewhere.
Give yourself a knock on the temple with the heel of your palm and then read what I ACTUALLY said. Then, if you want, this conversation can continue.
"unless you are implying that conservatives stayed home because they didn't like Bush' stand on illegal immigration. Those people can now be happy with the Dem Congress."
Are you implying that the 3 or 4 conservatives that actually stayed home cost us the election and not the millions of swing voters that went Dem because of corruption and Iraq? Sure that makes total sense.
Not to worry, Rudy is no moderate, just another RINO!
He gets (and eagerly accepts) all the credit for the work of many professional's after 911.
But it was really the staff at several agencies who did the work and made the important decisions he takes credit for.
Thinking people are generally aware of this, shallow groupies eager to follow the latest "Poll" are lining up behind him like he was handing out free homes.
When I have stated that should he become the candidate, or even the anointed favorite, that I will feel forced to find another party I was not kidding.
Rudy should run off a pier, NOT for president of THIS country.
The only reason no "third party" is viable is that so far not enough people have become disenchanted with the current parties.
But Rudy could change that.
I question the premise--Reps got beat because the left sold the middle on their view of Iraq and the Rep Congress was so odious--but for the sake of argument, let's accept it.
You are flat wrong. The "fault" that caused the Dems to win was NOT the electorate, conservative OR liberal. It was the stupid, wasteful, corrupt, hypocritical elements of many of the Republican candidates. The electorate was the messenger. It's getting tiresome to watch it being shot at.
Interesting. Romney, Duncan Hunter and "Would Not Vote" are the only ones extending their share in every single vote . . . and all three are STILL in the single digits.
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