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Republicans 2008: Giuliani Leads McCain by Seven
Angus Reid Global Monitor ^ | Dec. 9, 2006 | Angus Reid Global Monitor

Posted on 12/10/2006 11:57:45 AM PST by FairOpinion

Rudy Giuliani remains the most popular presidential hopeful for Republican Party sympathizers in the United States, according to a poll by Opinion Dynamics released by Fox News. 30 per cent of respondents would vote for the former New York City mayor in a 2008 primary.

Arizona senator John McCain is second with 23 per cent, followed by former House of Representatives speaker Newt Gingrich with nine per cent, and Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney with eight per cent. Support is lower for Kansas senator Sam Brownback, New York governor George Pataki, and California congressman Duncan Hunter.

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To: FairOpinion

Well, unfortunately these kind of polls go by what people self-identify as. Republican registration is an objective fact. Remember, Nancy Pelosi called her self a conservative grandmother, but she isn't really what you would call an "evil conservative." (How come you refer to the governor by his first name, but you refer to the Democrat candidate by his last name?)


121 posted on 12/10/2006 2:17:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion

I don't believe your contention. The conservatives don't stay home, they go out an vote for the Republicans in every election. The reason the GOP lost this year is because they lost too many swing voters.


122 posted on 12/10/2006 2:19:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion

How come you don't show statistics for how many liberal Republicans (and the state party) didn't vote for Simon. By your definition, it's okay for Republicans to not support conservative candidates, but they have to rally around liberal candidates. Loyalty only goes one way.


123 posted on 12/10/2006 2:23:19 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: NapkinUser

I don't see the relationship between Gore in TN and Giuliani in NY. Perhaps because... there isn't one.


124 posted on 12/10/2006 2:24:12 PM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am concerned about Romney and his Mormonism(not that there is anything wrong with that in my view), flip-flopping on social issues and any involvement in Big Dig/Boston fiasco. Santorum is seen as a radical fundamentalist fanatic by suburban independents all over America. I think he is great but he has no chance. Gingrich, come on, his negatives are worse than Hillarys and when the whole marital issue gets revisited, they will go even lower. Remember how he messed up the 98 midterms. McCain and maybe Rudy are the only ones, though far from perfectly clean or conservative, can win as things are now.


125 posted on 12/10/2006 2:25:50 PM PST by Red in Philly
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To: FairOpinion

I'm not very happy with the selection of candidites right now. Brownback is closest to what I would want to see in a candidate, but his support of illegal alien amnesty issue bugs me. I am not going to hold my nose and vote for a RINO who is a RAT on social issues, or has made a mockery of their marriage vow. My litmus test is the observance of the canditate's Christian faith, thru their actions and not just their words.

Does anyone think Condi will jump into the mix?


126 posted on 12/10/2006 2:26:35 PM PST by ZippyTheGreat
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To: FairOpinion

Explain to me why leftwing Democrats can get elected in very conservative states, but moderate or conservative Republicans are "not allowed" to run in blue or purple states.


127 posted on 12/10/2006 2:27:35 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion
Romney is NOT electable in the general election.

Okay, that settles it. FairOpinion has provided his opinion and that should be enough.

128 posted on 12/10/2006 2:32:45 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: NapkinUser
Every time you post your private pleasure collection along with your boiler plate hate data, Rudy becomes even more popular among Republican voters.
Can you explain that?
129 posted on 12/10/2006 2:42:30 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: NapkinUser
Every time you post your private pleasure collection along with your boiler plate hate data, Rudy becomes even more popular among Republican voters.
Can you explain that?
130 posted on 12/10/2006 2:42:52 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: FairOpinion

These discussions always leave me wondering what conservatism even means. To me, its essence is small, Constitutional government. To others, it means other things. Seems like we have to find consensus on the "must-haves" of conservatism, vs. the "nice-to haves."


131 posted on 12/10/2006 2:51:31 PM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Why is he not attractive to a majority of voters? I repeat my question. Why?

Ask the voters of Pennsylvania, his home state, which dumped him by a humiliating margin.

132 posted on 12/10/2006 3:00:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: TET1968

"Can you explain that?"

Don't be dumb. My postings here have no effect on national opinion polls, and neither does yours.

Giuliani ain't going to win the republican nomination. Sorry.


133 posted on 12/10/2006 3:04:37 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: samtheman

"I don't see the relationship between Gore in TN and Giuliani in NY. Perhaps because... there isn't one."

Then you must be blind. Gore's home state is Tennessee, which he didn't win. So arguing that Giuliani wins New York because that is his native state doesn't jive, especially if his opponent is also from New York.


134 posted on 12/10/2006 3:06:25 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I disagree. I'm in PA -- Casey didn't win. No one I know, republican or democrat, liked Casey. He stood for absolutely nothing, and his campaign was a pathetically transparent cut-and-paste of donk talking points.

Santorum left his base on spending issues, and alienated others with all the stupidity around where he lived, cyberschools, etc. If he can't win PA, he's not a viable national candidate.


135 posted on 12/10/2006 3:15:39 PM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: NapkinUser
arguing that Giuliani wins New York because that is his native state doesn't jive
Who said that? Not me.

I said what I said and it wasn't those words, which must be rattling around in your head somewhere.

Give yourself a knock on the temple with the heel of your palm and then read what I ACTUALLY said. Then, if you want, this conversation can continue.

136 posted on 12/10/2006 3:17:44 PM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: FairOpinion

"unless you are implying that conservatives stayed home because they didn't like Bush' stand on illegal immigration. Those people can now be happy with the Dem Congress."

Are you implying that the 3 or 4 conservatives that actually stayed home cost us the election and not the millions of swing voters that went Dem because of corruption and Iraq? Sure that makes total sense.


137 posted on 12/10/2006 3:18:22 PM PST by mthom
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To: RealTeen

Not to worry, Rudy is no moderate, just another RINO!

He gets (and eagerly accepts) all the credit for the work of many professional's after 911.
But it was really the staff at several agencies who did the work and made the important decisions he takes credit for.

Thinking people are generally aware of this, shallow groupies eager to follow the latest "Poll" are lining up behind him like he was handing out free homes.

When I have stated that should he become the candidate, or even the anointed favorite, that I will feel forced to find another party I was not kidding.

Rudy should run off a pier, NOT for president of THIS country.

The only reason no "third party" is viable is that so far not enough people have become disenchanted with the current parties.
But Rudy could change that.


138 posted on 12/10/2006 3:26:30 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: FairOpinion
But when so many conservatives stayed home, it IS their fault that the Dems had won.

I question the premise--Reps got beat because the left sold the middle on their view of Iraq and the Rep Congress was so odious--but for the sake of argument, let's accept it.

You are flat wrong. The "fault" that caused the Dems to win was NOT the electorate, conservative OR liberal. It was the stupid, wasteful, corrupt, hypocritical elements of many of the Republican candidates. The electorate was the messenger. It's getting tiresome to watch it being shot at.

139 posted on 12/10/2006 3:35:03 PM PST by jammer
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To: deport

Interesting. Romney, Duncan Hunter and "Would Not Vote" are the only ones extending their share in every single vote . . . and all three are STILL in the single digits.


140 posted on 12/10/2006 3:47:24 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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