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CA: Droves say goodbye to Golden State
Mercury News ^ | 12/10/06 | Mike Swift

Posted on 12/10/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Wayne Brown gave up $40,000 in income to move from the Bay Area to Kansas. And he feels great.

It got to be too much last year for the college information-technology officer: the commute to downtown San Francisco that sometimes took two hours, the housing-price spiral and the high-wire borrowing that paid for it.

``I would find myself sitting in traffic,'' Brown recalled, ``screaming at people.''

When the Kansas job came up in early 2005, Brown and his wife, Teresa, sold two Bay Area homes and happily settled in a suburb of Kansas City. They have never looked back.

The Browns are an example of what demographers say appears to be an unprecedented phenomenon -- even in a good economy, more people are leaving California for other states than are arriving from the rest of the country.

Between 2004 and 2005, the migration flow into California from the other 49 states started flowing the other way. Data from the state Department of Finance shows that, for the first time this decade, more people left California in 2005 for another state than the number who moved in. Mary Heim, a finance department demographer, says this particular kind of outflow will continue for the foreseeable future.

Unlike the tens of thousands who left Silicon Valley following the tech bust earlier this decade, the new migration is about the quest for something besides a job: a better quality of life at a lower cost of living.

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... California's population of 37 million people is still growing, because of a surplus of births over deaths and because of foreign immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2bsayingbyeoon; caexodus; california; crimigration; droves; foreigninvasion; goldenstate; goodbye; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; invasionusa; landoffruitsandnuts; thirdworldstate
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm sure they took thier left-wing looney tunes voting habits with them. I'm in Richmond, VA. I've seen 1st hand what these people do. I'm in Real Estate and have talked with literally hundreds of people from NJ/NY/MD/MA that moved here to escape the huge tax bases etc. They cried and moaned about how wonderful Boston used to be. Now we have Jim Webb, US Senate & Tim Kaine, Governor as a result.


41 posted on 12/10/2006 10:56:12 AM PST by albie
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To: 2Fro; all_mighty_dollar; Arkat Kingtroll; Battle Hymn of the Republic; Betis70; billycat95130; ...

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42 posted on 12/10/2006 10:57:07 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am leaving for arizona in february.


43 posted on 12/10/2006 10:59:50 AM PST by mzbzybee (why should I press one to speak english?)
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To: martin_fierro

lol.. For that price , I want a hot tub and sauna and wetbar

Is that Willow Glen or Saratoga, btw?


44 posted on 12/10/2006 11:00:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Kyl / Cornyn in '08 .... Now is as good as any time for a GOPurge.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sunnyvale. The Renters' Ghetto.


45 posted on 12/10/2006 11:01:19 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

OMG. $1,350,000 for an out-house?


46 posted on 12/10/2006 11:01:22 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
"$40,000.00 a year income isn't alot in SF

Doesn't pass the small test.....

TWO houses.....the $40K wouldn't pay the property taxes, no morgage deduction on second home, medical bills and petrol

47 posted on 12/10/2006 11:03:00 AM PST by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: radar101

"So far, here in Arizona, we have not had to deal with one person who had trouble with English."

Come to Texas... I walked in to a Wal Mart store I had shopped at previously here in Houston and ALL, I mean ALL, the signs were is Spanish. Not English AND Spanish mind you they were ALL in Spanish. The announcements were also in Spanish. I was buying a bunch of stuff and was just about finished. I wanted some bottled water and I couldn't find it. So I stopped an Employee and asked where it was and she looked at me and it was then I realized she didnt understand a word I said. I know Spanish but I wasn't about to speak it. Took my basket up front asked to speak to the day manager. When they came up I pushed my basket up to them, told him what happened and told him that until English was the language spoken in this store that niether I or anyone else I knew would be back to shop there.

ARGGHHH Frustrating


48 posted on 12/10/2006 11:03:12 AM PST by Syntyr (Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: My2Cents
Colorado has pretty well been californicated. We now have a democrat gov and state house. Colorado has also been targeted by Soros for the left wing takeover along with some other corporate executives who threw their money for the surprise takeover of the statehouse two years ago.
49 posted on 12/10/2006 11:03:44 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: NormsRevenge

I was born in California a long time ago. I have lived here all my life. California has become a Third World sewer. It will not be long before the outcast trash that the Third World elects start confiscatory taxation. My wife and I went up to Reno to start our search for a house. We plan on moving; Real Soon!( By the way no liberal baggage will come with us.)


50 posted on 12/10/2006 11:11:58 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: NormsRevenge

California is a mess.


51 posted on 12/10/2006 11:14:50 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
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To: NormsRevenge

I was born and raised in San Diego and we left 15 years ago for North Carolina.Even though my family is still there,I would not even think of moving back.I am not knocking San Diego , it is a beautiful place and I have a lot of memories there,but the way of life in North Carolina is so much better for me and it is now where I want to call home.


52 posted on 12/10/2006 11:14:54 AM PST by tapatio
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

When I moved from California to Texas, it was to get away from the liberal values.

Schools in Texas are better because UNLIKE California,Texas requires proof of legal residency. California almost punishes legal residency, by special taxes (license, insurance, registration) only enforced against legal residents.


53 posted on 12/10/2006 11:15:30 AM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: My2Cents

Arizona votes more and more like Massachusetts because of these twits.


54 posted on 12/10/2006 11:16:12 AM PST by Luke21 (Learn Spanish now. It's the wave of the present.)
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To: NormsRevenge

When I had to transfer back to the States from Japan in 2004, my greatest fear was that the Navy would send me to California. I was stationed there in the '80s when I was single, but there was no way I wanted my kids to live there now. Fortunately, I ended up in Virginia. I almost stayed there after I retired from the Navy.


55 posted on 12/10/2006 11:18:19 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: NormsRevenge

even in a good economy, more people are leaving California for other states than are arriving from the rest of the country.

Which of course doesn't address the issue of the folks coming in from different countries.


56 posted on 12/10/2006 11:18:33 AM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: CORedneck

"Colorado has pretty well been californicated."

While the Colorado GOP has had a couple of pretty bad years, the Centennial State is nothing like California. Whites still constitute a solid majority of the population (unlike CA), and socially the state is still pretty conservative (even rejected pro-gay domestic partner benefit referendum). I think the CO GOP will rebound eventually.


57 posted on 12/10/2006 11:18:58 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
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To: KevinDavis

I visited Chicago in September. Horrible. Cost me seven bucks in extortion tolls to get to the Wisconsin border. What a sewer.

Arizona is bad, but you just put it in perspective for me.


58 posted on 12/10/2006 11:19:28 AM PST by Luke21 (Learn Spanish now. It's the wave of the present.)
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To: Syntyr
No-I just got away from that in San Diego . Albertson's (Now a Kroger subsidiary) has about half the signs in the store in Spanish.

Arizona just passed an English Only proposition.

Prop. 103 - English as state's official language

Yes=74%

No= 26%

Prop. 100 - No bail for illegal immigrants

Yes=77.9%

NO =22.1%

Prop. 300 - Limit education services for illegal immigrants

Yes=71.4 %

No= 28.6 %

MY DISTRICT-in ARIZONA: Rick Renzi R Defeated Ellen Simon, ACLU ATTY -Dem 52%-44%

Jon Kyl R defeated Pederson--D Developer 54%--44% (3rd party candidate)

59 posted on 12/10/2006 11:21:52 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: Luke21

SEE POST # 59


60 posted on 12/10/2006 11:22:56 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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