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Mary Cheney's Pregnancy Affects Us All
Townhall ^ | December 7, 2006 | Janice Shaw Crouse PhD, Concerned Women for America

Posted on 12/08/2006 8:31:16 PM PST by rakovskii

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To: DoughtyOne
You alas need stats. Otherwise, we are left with the anecdotal. And we have the issue of gay parents versus foster homes, when stable hetero couples don't want the "problem children," and that is simply what is out there. We have a lot of highly educated successful gay couples that want to complete their families, and a lot of kids that need homes. You have your theory, and I have mine, and on this one, I am confident that the stats will bear me out.
341 posted on 12/08/2006 11:45:22 PM PST by Torie
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Fatty was actually acquitted.


342 posted on 12/08/2006 11:45:35 PM PST by Howlin (42 days to Destin!)
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To: rintense
Again, many thanks for the corroboration. :-)

I am beginning to think that I need to set up a Paypal account and start charging for all of the history and now biology lessons I post to GR. LOL, LOL, LOL

343 posted on 12/08/2006 11:46:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: rintense
Again, many thanks for the corroboration. :-)

I am beginning to think that I need to set up a Paypal account and start charging for all of the history and now biology lessons I post to FR. LOL, LOL, LOL

344 posted on 12/08/2006 11:46:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Albion Wilde
I am so sick of this lefty canard.

It's only a "canard" because you cannot refute it.

345 posted on 12/08/2006 11:46:44 PM PST by Howlin (42 days to Destin!)
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To: DoughtyOne
And I'm not inferring your friends would be an example of this. I'm simply saying once the door is wide open, you'll have damned many children to an abhorrent living condition.

I don't agree with you, but I just wanted to say I really appreciate the civil discourse.

I have gay friends who are parents, and I understand your concerns.

Thanks for being here and maintaining a good dialogue! I really appreciate it!!

(off to bed)

346 posted on 12/08/2006 11:46:50 PM PST by paulat
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To: nopardons

My point was valid. I'm not inclined to trip the light fantastic with your colorful renditions of history.


347 posted on 12/08/2006 11:47:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Howlin

ROTFLOL......yes, it is!


348 posted on 12/08/2006 11:47:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Albion Wilde

Not a canard, and a fallacious argument on your part, if my house is on fire, the fire department comes and puts it out, that is what my tax dollars are for.

You are comparing apples to oranges in a desperate attempt to steer away from the main argument, please focus on the subject at hand.


349 posted on 12/08/2006 11:47:56 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Let me guess: according to some, it's not the same, right, when, of course, it is precisely the same.


350 posted on 12/08/2006 11:48:49 PM PST by Howlin (42 days to Destin!)
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To: Torie

Then why don't you provide the stats instead of making suppositions for which there is no basis in fact to this point.


351 posted on 12/08/2006 11:48:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Howlin
Of course, it would break my heart that they will have to deal with people like some of the posters on this thread.

I hear ya. Some people equate cruelty and intolerance with conservatives and you can see why from some of these threads.

What is encouraging is that regardless of the volume of the purists and they do like to raise the volume on issues like this - the country as a whole is moving toward more love and more kindness, as well as more responsiblity. Some of these people must never get out :-) I fear that they really have no idea how out of touch they.

352 posted on 12/08/2006 11:49:20 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Central Scrutiniser
You can think all you want about disgusting lifestyles, that is your choice. But its none of your damn business to butt into other's affairs, is it?

Actually, in a republican democracy, the people do have a right and an obligation to interest themselves in any issue that they believe will significantly affect themselves and their children. They have a right and an obligation to form opinions about the issues and to press their representatives to put relevant issues to a vote.

The abortion issue is one issue that simply will not die, because it was handed down to us by the Imperial Supreme Court acting as an oligarchy. That is why so many citizens want the issue of gay marriage to be put to a vote -- because they do not want the courts deciding how they must live and whether they will be labeled "bigots" for exercising their First Amendment right to believe in the Christian religion and its teachings about marriage and sexuality as Americans have done since its founding.

353 posted on 12/08/2006 11:50:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I stand by my post

Well that doesn't surprise me one bit. I wouldn't expect more from one who falsely accuses someone of the very thing they, themselves are guilty of.
354 posted on 12/08/2006 11:50:16 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: rintense
Some of those 'others' post on FR.

LOL - yes I saw one from some guy on another thread who talked about the *masters* of the house. Wow! I feel for the women in some of these men's lives!

355 posted on 12/08/2006 11:50:53 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: paulat

Thank you Paulat. Good night.


356 posted on 12/08/2006 11:51:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: rintense

They've never heard of the once very popular series of HORATIO ALGER stories. For most here, history or life only began in 1953, or thereabouts and 1953 as they imagine it was; not as it REALLY was.


357 posted on 12/08/2006 11:51:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Central Scrutiniser

It is the easy way out to throw groups of people in a convenient little bucket and label them all with the same foolish crap. Remember... all republicans are racist. All liberals are tree huggers. All Christians are hate mongers. All Muslims are murderers.


358 posted on 12/08/2006 11:51:12 PM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: Torie
"Humor me, and find a study that as a statistical matter, the kids of gay parents turn out worse, than kids in general. Sure, maybe kids of stable heterosexuals of their own genetic material turn out best of all (maybe), but that leaves about 65% of kids raised in some other category. I suggest that gay parents that go to a lot of trouble to have kids, and have a stable relationship, do about as well, as most. That is my contention. Not blow me away with hard creditable date. Give me a link. Just do it. "

By promoting the dialectic of 'negative' criticism, that is, pointing out the rational contradictions in a society's belief system, the Frankfurt School 'revolutionaries' dreamed of a utopia where their rules governed [4]. "Their Critical Theory had to contain a strongly imaginative, even utopian strain, which transcends the limits of reality." Its tenets would never be subject to experimental evidence. The pure logic of their thoughts would be incontrovertible. As a precursor to today's 'postmodernism' in the intellectual academic community, [5] "...it recognized that disinterested scientific research was impossible in a society in which men were themselves not yet autonomous...the researcher was always part of the social object he was attempting to study." This, of course, is the concept which led to the current fetish for the rewriting of history, and the vogue for our universities' law, English literature, and humanities disciplines -- deconstruction.

yitbos

359 posted on 12/08/2006 11:51:48 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: nopardons

If you could read you would have seen that I prefaced my advice by stating that "if" she asked me for advice this is what I would blah blah blah.

I did not presume to be a better parent just because I'm 15 years older and have five children. I am in a better situation that she is in (wouldn't mind being 15 years younger though).


360 posted on 12/08/2006 11:51:58 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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