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Baby born on jet just before O'Hare landing (anchor baby or not?)
chi sun-times ^ | December 8, 2006 | ESTHER J. CEPEDA Staff Reporter

Posted on 12/08/2006 7:28:47 PM PST by dennisw

Despite being trapped in a cramped airplane thousands of feet in the air, a pregnant Mexican woman en route to Chicago found herself in the right place at the right time -- giving birth to a healthy baby girl with the help of a fellow passenger. The 42-year-old woman gave birth to a 7-pound, 8-ounce girl approximately a half hour before the plane touched down at O'Hare just before midnight Wednesday, said Eve Rodriguez, Chicago Fire Department assistant director of media affairs.

Baby 'alert, looking around' The woman, a Mexican citizen, was on a Mexicana Airlines flight from Guadalajara when she went into labor. "I was kind of surprised how calm everyone was," said Lori Perez who, along with fellow paramedic Enoch Benson of O'Hare's Rescue Station 3, boarded the plane to take mother and baby to Resurrection Medical Center.

"Mom was in good spirits, she said there was a doctor on board and that she wasn't in a lot of pain."

Perez said that although she didn't catch the obstetrician's name, his handiwork was good.

"The baby girl was not really crying; she was alert and looking around," Perez said.

Airspace matters Mexicana Airlines officials did not return calls to explain whether the woman had presented a doctor's authorization to fly six months or more into a pregnancy, as its own rules require. Whether the baby girl is the United States' newest citizen remains to be seen, according to Maria Elena Garcia-Upson, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services spokeswoman.

An immigration law provision makes a child born in airspace over U.S. territory eligible for citizenship.

But if the parents decide to file an application, officials will investigate whether the child was born in Mexican air-space or over international waters.

"The parents can go ahead and pursue citizenship for the child if they so wish," said Garcia-Upson.

"But we don't decide on cases like this in a public forum. Facts need to be determined first."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbaby; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: Seaplaner
babie = baby

sheesh!

21 posted on 12/08/2006 7:56:24 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: doc1019

Sight the case law please.


22 posted on 12/08/2006 7:57:02 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: dennisw

Who gets on a plane to fly somewhere when they're ready to have a child at any moment?


23 posted on 12/08/2006 7:58:30 PM PST by The Brush
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To: dennisw
The woman, a Mexican citizen...An immigration law provision makes a child born in airspace over U.S. territory eligible for citizenship..."The parents can go ahead and pursue citizenship for the child if they so wish"

Totally untrue. Crystal clear violation of the 14th Amendment's jurisdiction clause:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

Any citizens of a foreign nation are by fact NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. This is why foreign diplomats in New York don't have their wives giving birth to American citizens. There is no debate about that. So why is there any debate about this or ANY so-called "anchor babies". There is NO SUCH THING. Any baby born to an illegal Mexican alien is a citizen of MEXICO...NOT the U.S.

IF there is such a "provision" in immigration law it is unconstitutional. Any judge ruling otherwise should be impeached. The SCOTUS needs to take this issue up and rule correctly so we can finally have an end to this unlawful law.

24 posted on 12/08/2006 8:00:02 PM PST by montag813
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To: Zack Nguyen
Cue screams from 'Airplane'

LOL! I really must rent that tape again.

25 posted on 12/08/2006 8:00:19 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: doc1019

Not true. She was born on a Mexican aircraft which by both U.S. and International law is Mexican soil.


26 posted on 12/08/2006 8:00:51 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: dennisw
for more opinions: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1750681/posts.
27 posted on 12/08/2006 8:02:16 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Warning: fuming. For the Republic.)
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To: COEXERJ145



a baby was born, healthy and safe.

You would think this "pro life" board would rejoice.

But snideness is the order of the day whenever it is a Mexican baby.


28 posted on 12/08/2006 8:03:40 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: COEXERJ145
As I said on the previous thread, if it was British Airways flight and the woman was a British citizen, no one on this forum would give a damn.

If she was a British citizen then her baby would be a British citizen as well, regardless of the irrelevant matter of where it was born. You are an idiot to suggest that race has anything to do with it. We are a nation of laws, dammit.

29 posted on 12/08/2006 8:04:06 PM PST by montag813
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To: cripplecreek

LOL.


30 posted on 12/08/2006 8:04:39 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: dennisw

Another slick ILLEGAL with an agenda?

"An immigration law provision makes a child born in airspace over U.S. territory eligible for citizenship."



31 posted on 12/08/2006 8:08:08 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: cajungirl
a baby was born, healthy and safe. You would think this "pro life" board would rejoice. But snideness is the order of the day whenever it is a Mexican baby.

You are nothing but a racial propagandist who has no place on this forum. Read the 14th Amendment. Children of foreign citizens are foreign citizens. We don't care what nation they are from. But the vast majority are from Mexico. I know facts are inconvenient to propagandists, so I don't expect you to understand.

32 posted on 12/08/2006 8:08:17 PM PST by montag813
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To: cajungirl
a baby was born, healthy and safe.

No thanks to the reckless woman who went on a flight knowing she could give birth at any moment. Would you do this? That was my wife's first comment...what was she doing on a plane?

33 posted on 12/08/2006 8:10:38 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Do you know when the baby was due?

YOu can fly up to 3 weeks prior to due date. Used to be 6 weeks.


34 posted on 12/08/2006 8:14:20 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: org.whodat

Don’t need to site case law …

The Constitution seems pretty clear:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Child was born while within territorial bounds of the US.


35 posted on 12/08/2006 8:15:26 PM PST by doc1019
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To: montag813

Name calling is your modus operandi isn't it.

I did not comment on the citizenship issue. I commented on the generally negative, nasty comments of people on this board who if you see on other threads declare they are "pro life".

I am a racial propagandist? YOu are a nasty namecaller who doesn't know what you are spouting so blinded are you by your racist feelings and hate.


36 posted on 12/08/2006 8:17:18 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: COEXERJ145
As I said on the previous thread, if it was British Airways flight and the woman was a British citizen, no one on this forum would give a damn.

We would if 20 million British invaded the US.
37 posted on 12/08/2006 8:18:14 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: supremedoctrine

She should be charged with "Conspiracy to Have a Baby in CONUS Airspace"


38 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:04 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: montag813

"what was she doing on a plane?"

Making sure her child would be a US citizen.


39 posted on 12/08/2006 8:21:25 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: montag813

"That was my wife's first comment...what was she doing on a plane?"

Exactly, she was on a plane to Chicago to have an anchor baby at taxpayer expense. She didn't quite make it.

It is insane we, as a country, put up with this.

If it's a problem with the law, change it!


40 posted on 12/08/2006 8:22:54 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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