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"The give-and-take of illegal immigration"
The Dallas Morning News ^ | 12/8/2006 | Karen Brooks

Posted on 12/08/2006 8:03:15 AM PST by I_Publius

08:19 AM CST on Friday, December 8, 2006 By KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Illegal immigration is draining hundreds of millions of dollars from local governments but bolstering the Texas economy by $17.7 billion a year, the state comptroller estimates in a new report.

And when it comes to taxes, illegal immigrants are a boon. They cost the state $1.16 billion in services, such as public health services and education, but they pay $1.58 billion every year in taxes and fees, according to the report, released Thursday.

That's a net profit to the state of $420 million.

But counties pay the price: They're taking in $513 million in local taxes and revenues – but spending $1.44 billion in indigent care and law-enforcement costs. Cities and school districts suffer as well, the report said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration; taxes; texas
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Interesting article on the front page of today's Dallas Morning News.
1 posted on 12/08/2006 8:03:16 AM PST by I_Publius
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To: I_Publius

I don't believe this.


2 posted on 12/08/2006 8:06:10 AM PST by freekitty
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To: I_Publius

I don't believe this.


3 posted on 12/08/2006 8:06:26 AM PST by freekitty
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To: I_Publius

No wonder there is so much crime, we are expected to reward those that break our laws.


4 posted on 12/08/2006 8:07:55 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: freekitty

Alot of reasons not to believe it. Among them, they did not count the anchor babies that ARE qualified to receive services and are sucking them up, and they did not count the cost of educating the illegal children and the anchor babies.
They always leave out lots of costs to get the figure they want.


5 posted on 12/08/2006 8:18:16 AM PST by sheana
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To: I_Publius

Illegal immigration is draining hundreds of millions of dollars from local governments but.....
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Wrong -- for example, California has a net cost to the state taxpayers of $10 BILLION per year for the support of illegal aliens, which includes, but not limited to, welfare, medical, educational impact and law-enforcement and incarceration costs. To say nothing of the Border Patrol enforcement costs. The latest estimates for the entire country, state and federal is in excess of $100 BILLION PER YEAR and increasing as the illegal flow across our border, combined with heavy propogation of illegals on American soil.


6 posted on 12/08/2006 8:20:20 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: I_Publius

"The give-and-take of illegal immigration"

Translation: We give and they take.


7 posted on 12/08/2006 8:22:12 AM PST by Miami Bassist
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To: I_Publius

Such a glowing report, why would anyone object to the presence of the illegal aliens?

Because the Dallas Morning News may be fudging the numbers just a tad. There is an agenda to be supported, after all.


8 posted on 12/08/2006 8:26:31 AM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: I_Publius
And when it comes to taxes, illegal immigrants are a boon. They cost the state $1.16 billion in services, such as public health services and education, but they pay $1.58 billion every year in taxes and fees, according to the report, released Thursday.

Okay, Dallas Morning News...

What about the costs involved in breaking the law? What about the costs to the U.S. citizens who are put out of work because a pathetically cheap, treacherous and turncoat company hires illegals over legal residents? I could go on and on regarding the incredible drain on our society. But I won't. The Dallas Morning News just needs to get their premise right.

And that is: It is WRONG to break the law! We make laws to remain a civil society and when they are willfully broken, civility begins collapsing. Oh my gosh! Isn't that what is happening to people right here in these United States?

So, to the friendly Dallas Morning News:

Remain in your state of denial regarding the societal drain that illegals perform, and befor long, Texas will be an add-on to Mexico.

Adios...

9 posted on 12/08/2006 8:43:44 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: sheana
They always leave out lots of costs to get the figure they want.

The very artfully crafted and misleading headline refers specifically to "state" revenues vs. costs (illegals are a $420 million benefit). The article also says illegels are a billion dollar net cost to local governments in Texas. So based on the content of the article, the headline should read "Illegals Cost Texans $500 million Per Year".

10 posted on 12/08/2006 8:46:27 AM PST by Texas Federalist (Gingrich '08)
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To: I_Publius

The net profit of $420 million dollars should help law enforcement enforce the laws that illegal immigrants are breaking.

Lawbreaking has always been lucrative to the lawless but costly to society. If government is supportive of lawbreakers solely for the money, government has to be replaced for it too is lawless and corrupted, and is no longer credible as representing the law- abiding citizens of America.


11 posted on 12/08/2006 8:52:30 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: freekitty
I don't believe this.

This is all for the purpose of shoring up Rick Perry's position. After pretending to be concerned about border security (long enough to get re-elected), he's now laughing at the idea of a border wall or fence.

Remember - "Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics."

- Disraeli / Twain

12 posted on 12/08/2006 8:59:13 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


13 posted on 12/08/2006 9:05:45 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: sheana
The stand alone state government made $420M but if you add in the county figures, you are at a total of -$507M.

Then the article says "that cities and school districts suffer as well" without estimating costs and which means the overall net affect of illegals is even lover. Illegals cost Harris County (Houston) almost $20M on police alone. That never made it into other figures.

Obviously the gross state product would increase with more people. Any extra person with a job increases GSP. But how does it affect the GSP/per person though?

The article spins the negativity of the report , by presenting it as a balance instead of a negative. Imagine at raise time you get a $10,000 raise, but you lose your $8000/year car allowance, your contribution towards the Medical and dental plans goes up $5000/yr, and they are moving offices further away from your home, which will cost you an extra $1000/yr in gas. Would anyone look at that like it was a "give and take"? Or would any sane person think they are getting the shaft?

14 posted on 12/08/2006 9:13:35 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: I_Publius

"Cost of Illegals to California $10.5 Billion":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1750476/posts


15 posted on 12/08/2006 9:32:15 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: I_Publius; Trailerpark Badass
Try to square this article with this:

Cost of Illegals to California $10.5 Billion

To quote 'Trailerpark Badass' on that thread:

Maybe Texas should import some of California's illegals, or consult and teach CA how to make money off illegals for fun and profit!

16 posted on 12/08/2006 9:34:42 AM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: BenLurkin

Great minds...


17 posted on 12/08/2006 9:35:10 AM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: EagleUSA

Socialist states are more heavily impacted by illegals.

In California, we don't even consider the cost of providing bi-lingual services like phone, signage, etc.. which costs money and when accumulated, gets very expensive.


18 posted on 12/08/2006 9:40:13 AM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Paloma_55

Not to mention all of those jobs requiring Spanish speakers lost to Americans who aren't interested in learning Spanish.


19 posted on 12/08/2006 9:43:56 AM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: Charles Martel

I agree. It's bs.


20 posted on 12/10/2006 8:39:17 AM PST by freekitty
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