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Baker panel's mention of Palestinian "right of return" raises eyebrows
AFP ^ | December 6, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 1:00:35 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

A reference to Palestinians' "right of return" in the report issued by the high-level Iraq Study Group broke a diplomatic taboo which sparked immediate concern in Israel and surprise among Middle East policy experts.

The reference was buried deep inside a 160-page report that urged US President George W. Bush to renew efforts to revive Israel-Palestinian peace talks as part of a region-wide bid to end the chaos in Iraq.

"This report is worrisome for Israel particularly because, for the first time, it mentions the question of the 'right of return' for the Palestinian refugees of 1948," said a senior Israeli official, who was reacting to the US policy report on condition he not be identified.

A Middle East analyst who was involved in the Iraq Study Group discussions but did not participate in drafting the report expressed surprise when the reference was pointed out to him by a reporter.

"It's hard to know whether that language got in there because of carelessness -- I know there were many revisions up to the very last minute -- or whether it was a deliberate attempt to fuse something to the Bush rhetoric which wasn't there before," the analyst said.

The 1993 Oslo peace accords between Israel and the Palestinians calls for a resolution of the issue of Israeli and Palestinian "refugees" as part of a final status agreement that would include the creation of a Palestinian state.

But they do not use the term "right of return", which is a long-standing Palestinian demand -- rejected by Israel -- that Palestinians who fled or were driven out of what was to become the Jewish state in 1948, as well as their descendants, be allowed to return home.

Bush, in a 2002 speech in the White House Rose Garden, became the first US president to formally back the creation of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel, but he also did not mention a right of Palestinian 'return'.

The bipartisan Iraq Study Group's co-chairman is former secretary of state James Baker, who as the top diplomat for Bush's father in the early 1990s clashed with Israel over its handling of the Palestinian issue.

Among his group's 79 recommendations for a policy shift on Iraq, number 17 concerned five points it said should be included in a negotiated peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

The final point in the list was: "Sustainable negotiations leading to a final peace settlement along the lines of President Bush's two-state solution, which would address the key final status issues of borders, settlements, Jerusalem, the right of return and the end of conflict."

"'Right of return' is not in Oslo I or Oslo II, it's not in the Bush Rose Garden speech, it's not even in UN 181, the original partition resolution -- it's part of the Palestinian discourse," said the US analyst.


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To: Mo1; Alter Kaker

How about instead you and the other Bush Über Alles go away.


201 posted on 12/06/2006 3:49:17 PM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: West Coast Conservative



We allowed politicians to fight VietNam. We must never repeat that mistake.


202 posted on 12/06/2006 3:54:56 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Sabramerican

Nope


203 posted on 12/06/2006 3:55:20 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1

Now you're just being rude. Grow up.


204 posted on 12/06/2006 3:56:37 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: safisoft

I'd walk through fire to vote for Dick Cheney as President. Wish it could happen.


205 posted on 12/06/2006 4:02:31 PM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Mo1

Good. Stay and enjoy as more and more Freepers realize the quality of our President.


206 posted on 12/06/2006 4:02:33 PM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Baker's plan would be a disaster for the Jews. He obviously is anti semitic.
207 posted on 12/06/2006 4:03:12 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!)
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To: 2banana
The Baker plan is a surrender plan...

I'm pretty sure that he and the rest in Washington plan the same thing (the "Right of Return") for the US as well, which is the only reason I can think of for their border policies.

Mark

208 posted on 12/06/2006 4:04:39 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

That same line of thinking will soon lead to the Mexican 'right to return" read: takeover and subsequent murder of the Gringo. As they have stated will occur in the near future.

White man is doomed!


209 posted on 12/06/2006 4:08:55 PM PST by lawdude (The dems see Wal-Mart as a bigger threat to the US than muslim terrorists)
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To: Hildy
What a disaster this President has turned into...Shame on GW Bush....

I'm willing to give the President the benefit of the doubt for the moment. Remember, this "report" is nothing more than a bunch of suggestions. Hopefully, the President will give a reasoned rejection for these suggestions, although I don't hold out much hope for the media reporting any of those reasons. I'm sure that the headlines will read, "Bush (never President Bush) rejects All-Star commission's reports out of hand."

Mark

210 posted on 12/06/2006 4:10:39 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: MarkL

If he were going to do that, why did he appoint a commisioner his Secretary of Defense? Not exactly the go-to guy, I would think.


211 posted on 12/06/2006 4:11:43 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
"The primary mission of U.S. forces in Iraq should evolve to one of supporting the Iraqi army, which would take over pri- mary responsibility for combat operations. By the first quarter of 2008, subject to unexpected developments in the security situation on the ground, all combat brigades not necessary for force protection could be out of Iraq. At that time, U.S. combat forces in Iraq could be deployed only in units embedded with Iraqi forces, in rapid-reaction and special operations teams, and in training, equipping, advising, force protection, and search and rescue."

These remaining troops that will be left behind imbeded with Iraqi units are expected to number around 70,000. All the report says is that the Iraqi miltary will hopefully take over control of Iraq in 2008. That is a good thing and was the primary goal of the Iraq rebuilding effort. The report doesn't really say anything that new. some people are acting disappointed that our goals maybe accomplished in about a year. These 70,000 troops who will remain at that time will be able to go after terrorist cells, which is what they are trained to do. It will be a good thing when our troops no longer have to act as civil servants to the Iraqi people.

212 posted on 12/06/2006 4:11:44 PM PST by RoyStevens
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To: Alter Kaker; Brilliant
Who was on this panel besides Baker?

Incoming Secretary of Defense Gates... and Sandra Day O'Connor, among others. Great bunch!

IIRC, it also included Leon Panetta and Lawrence Eagleburger (wasn't he Sec State under Carter?)

Good leftists and dems all: Great friends of the US and Israel /sarc

Mark

213 posted on 12/06/2006 4:13:40 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: RoyStevens
These remaining troops that will be left behind imbeded with Iraqi units are expected to number around 70,000.

I've seen that 70,000 figure all over the news, but nowhere in any of the ISG's report does it mention that figure. In fact, the report strongly indicates that we're talking about less than 20,000, and possibly no more than 2-5,000 by the first quarter of 2008. That's a full withdrawal.

214 posted on 12/06/2006 4:15:35 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

The figure is the Pentagon's estimate of how many troops they hope to have in Iraq in 2008 in the same role suggeested by the commision. This commision will probably be helpful for us in trying to determine where we are having problems and where we are succeeding. However, the commission has not really recommended anything that wasn't alreaqdy in the planning in regard to troop levels. The policy differences they have suggested deal with our relationships and stances on Syria and Iran. The group should have been called the middle east study group.


215 posted on 12/06/2006 4:23:05 PM PST by RoyStevens
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To: Mo1
I'm going to wait to see what the President says and does

I agree

I don't believe President Bush will abandon Israel,
or cut deals with iran.
(who declared war on us in the late 70's as Senator Santorum stated tonight)

It's other people I don't trust...
216 posted on 12/06/2006 4:25:56 PM PST by firewalk
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To: BeforeISleep

I don't think he will either and I hope he throws that Baker report in the trash


217 posted on 12/06/2006 4:28:25 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: BeforeISleep
I don't believe President Bush will abandon Israel, or cut deals with iran. (who declared war on us in the late 70's as Senator Santorum stated tonight) It's other people I don't trust...

That reminds me of the old "If the Czar only knew!" attitude. Wake up -- Bush just appointed an author of this disastrous report to be Secretary of Defense. Bush isn't flying blind, he's setting policy right here, and right now.

218 posted on 12/06/2006 4:33:31 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Williams

I will refer to him as James Baker Quisling..


219 posted on 12/06/2006 4:35:44 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Probably lots of Saudi money..


220 posted on 12/06/2006 4:36:45 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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