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Baker panel's mention of Palestinian "right of return" raises eyebrows
AFP ^ | December 6, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 1:00:35 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

A reference to Palestinians' "right of return" in the report issued by the high-level Iraq Study Group broke a diplomatic taboo which sparked immediate concern in Israel and surprise among Middle East policy experts.

The reference was buried deep inside a 160-page report that urged US President George W. Bush to renew efforts to revive Israel-Palestinian peace talks as part of a region-wide bid to end the chaos in Iraq.

"This report is worrisome for Israel particularly because, for the first time, it mentions the question of the 'right of return' for the Palestinian refugees of 1948," said a senior Israeli official, who was reacting to the US policy report on condition he not be identified.

A Middle East analyst who was involved in the Iraq Study Group discussions but did not participate in drafting the report expressed surprise when the reference was pointed out to him by a reporter.

"It's hard to know whether that language got in there because of carelessness -- I know there were many revisions up to the very last minute -- or whether it was a deliberate attempt to fuse something to the Bush rhetoric which wasn't there before," the analyst said.

The 1993 Oslo peace accords between Israel and the Palestinians calls for a resolution of the issue of Israeli and Palestinian "refugees" as part of a final status agreement that would include the creation of a Palestinian state.

But they do not use the term "right of return", which is a long-standing Palestinian demand -- rejected by Israel -- that Palestinians who fled or were driven out of what was to become the Jewish state in 1948, as well as their descendants, be allowed to return home.

Bush, in a 2002 speech in the White House Rose Garden, became the first US president to formally back the creation of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel, but he also did not mention a right of Palestinian 'return'.

The bipartisan Iraq Study Group's co-chairman is former secretary of state James Baker, who as the top diplomat for Bush's father in the early 1990s clashed with Israel over its handling of the Palestinian issue.

Among his group's 79 recommendations for a policy shift on Iraq, number 17 concerned five points it said should be included in a negotiated peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

The final point in the list was: "Sustainable negotiations leading to a final peace settlement along the lines of President Bush's two-state solution, which would address the key final status issues of borders, settlements, Jerusalem, the right of return and the end of conflict."

"'Right of return' is not in Oslo I or Oslo II, it's not in the Bush Rose Garden speech, it's not even in UN 181, the original partition resolution -- it's part of the Palestinian discourse," said the US analyst.


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To: safisoft
Oh yea .. that makes a sense

rolling eyes

181 posted on 12/06/2006 3:23:41 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Alter Kaker

I apologize for wishful thinking out loud. ;)


182 posted on 12/06/2006 3:25:23 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mo1

I obviously don't support impeachment, but I do think you're really out of touch here on what this report and this appointment mean to the future of the Middle East. Things look very bad.


183 posted on 12/06/2006 3:25:41 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: longtermmemmory

Possible .. all I know right now is that is Baker is an ass


184 posted on 12/06/2006 3:26:47 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1
Oh yea .. that makes a sense rolling eyes

In a dangerous world, there is no room for wooses in the White House. Incompetence is bad (Clinton). Giving in to Islamofacists is worse. Bush and his daddy's men are dangerous to our security. Abandoning Israel is the most perilous thing the US could do... this is the start of it.
185 posted on 12/06/2006 3:26:53 PM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Alter Kaker
Things look very bad.

No kidding and you going around spouting off things that are not factually is not helping matters

186 posted on 12/06/2006 3:27:55 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: MadIvan

IOW the panel was composed of pre-9/11 thinkers.


187 posted on 12/06/2006 3:28:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: safisoft

Get back to me when you can post something serious to say


188 posted on 12/06/2006 3:29:27 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: longtermmemmory

An excellent point.


189 posted on 12/06/2006 3:30:28 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: West Coast Conservative
This is James Baker carrying out his lifetime ambition to "F* 'em."

Or maybe it is the senile O'Connor pretending still to be the perfect and unassailable supreme judge of the whole world like she did while seated on SCOTUS.

Frankly I am ashamed to be a Republican considering the gaggle of pc stooges, demented has-beens and plain sellouts controlling the so-called "party.

190 posted on 12/06/2006 3:30:47 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mo1
So which part of this incorrect?

1. That until three weeks ago, after the bulk of this report was written and agreed to, Secretary Gates sat on this commission.

2. This commission's report calls for (1) the abandonment of Iraq by the first quarter of 2008 and (2) the abandonment of Israel.

3. Supporters of Israel, including John Bolton and Don Rumsfeld, are being purged from the Administration.

4. Hawks and supporters of Israel are being replaced by the likes of Gates.

Help me out here. Where exactly have I gone wrong? What makes you believe, if you do, that Gates opposes the ISG's report?

191 posted on 12/06/2006 3:32:31 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Mo1

Additionally, what makes you think, if you do, that Bush is going to oppose the ISG's recomendations?


192 posted on 12/06/2006 3:34:24 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

Unlike you .. I'm am going to wait to see what the President says and does before accusing him of things he hasn't done


193 posted on 12/06/2006 3:35:53 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1

So you really don't disagree with me, you're just holding out hope that Gates was coerced into sitting on the commission or that Bush is going to force Gates to oppose his own commission's report?


194 posted on 12/06/2006 3:37:49 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
"2. This commission's report calls for (1) the abandonment of Iraq by the first quarter of 2008 and (2) the abandonment of Israel."

Actually the report calls for having 70,000 troops in Iraq after the first quater of 2008, and the report says nothing about abandoning Israel. I'm not sure where your info came from, but it is not factual.

196 posted on 12/06/2006 3:40:38 PM PST by RoyStevens
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To: Alter Kaker

Go away


197 posted on 12/06/2006 3:40:57 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: RoyStevens
Actually the report calls for having 70,000 troops in Iraq after the first quater of 2008, and the report says nothing about abandoning Israel.

You clearly have a different copy of the report that I have sitting on my desk in front of me. The report calls for a negligeable presence by the first quarter of 2008.

The primary mission of U.S. forces in Iraq should evolve to one of supporting the Iraqi army, which would take over pri- mary responsibility for combat operations. By the first quarter of 2008, subject to unexpected developments in the security situation on the ground, all combat brigades not necessary for force protection could be out of Iraq. At that time, U.S. combat forces in Iraq could be deployed only in units embedded with Iraqi forces, in rapid-reaction and special operations teams, and in training, equipping, advising, force protection, and search and rescue.

the report says nothing about abandoning Israel.

It calls for:

1. Giving Syria the Golan Heights, which would give Syria strategic control over all of Israel's territory. AND

2. Putting a "Right of Return" on the table, which would be Israel's destruction.

198 posted on 12/06/2006 3:46:15 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: MadIvan
IRAQ STUDY GROUP MEMBERS

Oy, there's that old people smell!

199 posted on 12/06/2006 3:47:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: horse_doc
This "bipartisan" "study group" was in business long before the elections. It could have been predicted based on the membership that it would result in a disaster of this sort.

As to the American Jewish vote, the 87% figure you cite is inaccuarate (I presume you are referring to the % who voted 'Rat for the House). An article by Richard Baehr in "The American Thinker" dated Nov. 15th(americanthinker.com) shows that the real figure is about 70%. Regardless of how politically naive a large percentage of Jewish voters were, the fact is that there aren't enough Jewish voters in the almost all the House districts that flipped to the Demonrats to have made any difference in the overall outcome.

200 posted on 12/06/2006 3:47:22 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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