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Teen Murderer Says Jail Is Too Hard, Appeals Sentence
WFTV-TV 9 ^
| December 4, 2006
| WFTV
Posted on 12/04/2006 3:34:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- One of the teenagers responsible for beating a Holly Hill homeless man to death asked a judge to reduce his 22-year prison sentence Monday. Warren Messner and three other teens pled guilty to killing the man because they were bored, but Messner said prison is too hard.
Messner is a big boy. He was 15 at the time he was brought into the woods to see the homeless man his friends had been beating. Even at that young age, he outweighed the victim, Michael Roberts, by 200 pounds when he jumped on his chest, crushing his ribcage. Roberts died.
"Did you feel bad when you are doing it?" Messner was asked during questioning.
"Not really, no," he replied.
He didn't feel bad then, but he does now. He has been in juvenile detention for eight months, locked in a small cell and occasionally allowed to go to class.
Messner and his attorney said he has already learned his lesson and is ready to go home to help others. ...
"He's not getting the mental health, the schooling. He's not getting anything, anything but locked in a cell all day long," Lori Messner [his mother] said.
The judge and the state both argued that being deprived services and being locked away is precisely the point of prison. Warren Messner will spend the next 22 years in prison without the chance for parole.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: boohoohoo; boostinkinghoo; bootyboy; bubba; crime; crymeariver; daytona; florida; hollyhill; homeless; iwantmymommy; jail; juvenile; mybutthurts; prison; psycho; unfairwhaaaaaaaaaa
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To: Popman
For every "F" he gets, he gets an additional week of jail time. LOL! Nice and subtle. The dunce would probably fail sixth grade enough times to spend life in prison.
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posted on
12/04/2006 5:39:44 PM PST
by
Wilhelm Tell
(True or False? This is not a tag line.)
To: FreedomCalls
I agree, jail is too tough.
I'd be glad to put him out of his misery via death by hanging, lethal injection, the chair, etc.
Good grief, he beat a homeless guy to death. That basically tells me he just thought it would be fun to beat a guy to death. This slimeball needs to rot of fry. Certainly not get off.
To: fish hawk
In prison Messner is now known as the "little fat f@#%"
I've heard one of the sayings in prison at San Quentin is, "There's no joy, like a fat butted boy!"
but damn if I know what they're talking about.
To: AmericanArchConservative
Well, I do not know the "lad" - so all my presumptions are out of hand, as it were. I think he could be redeemed somehow, and prove himself useful in his life on earth. My example for this hope is the well-known David Berkowitz, AKA the "Son of Sam" killer of NY state infamy. Seldom in modern times has there been a more lost and evil soul walking amongst us - yet somehow, Berkowitz has found Christ behind bars. I believe his commitment is sincere in his heart of hearts. I have viewed lengthy videotapes, and he is clearly remorseful, devoid of making any excuses, fully cognizant of the cruel and calculating depravity which he acted upon. He knows he will never get out of prison, he flatly acknowledges the justice of his sentence without dispute, and he is obviously humbly grateful to G_d for a chance to have his miserable soul saved, and for a chance to be of some use in this life. His personal testimony is unflinchingly honest, and utterly compelling. In fact, I challenge a person with any heart to them to listen with an open mind and not weep openly. He is now filling his mind with scriptures. He leads Bible studies in prison and is dedicated to introducing trapped, miserable sinners to Jesus Christ - for Christ's glory, not his own. His "memory bank" of Bible verses seems to border on encyclopaedic, and my own impression is that the Word is engraved upon his heart. He is where he belongs, and he accepts and embraces that. If Berkowitz was/is salvageable, then Mr. Messner can be as well - IF he chooses wisely. A.A.C.....OK...let's let him out...and make him a guest at your house....ya'll do some big time praying together...let him intermingle with your children...especially the female members of your family....then come back an tell me how "redeemed" he is..oh by the way review a few more video tapes of this "good ole boy". Frankly post like yours are void of real thought...
84
posted on
12/04/2006 5:49:20 PM PST
by
RVN Airplane Driver
("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
To: FreedomCalls
One of the teenagers responsible for beating a Holly Hill homeless man to death asked a judge to reduce his 22-year prison sentence Monday. Warren Messner and three other teens pled guilty to killing the man because they were bored, but Messner said prison is too hard. Perhaps he would prefer to ride at the end of a rope? Tell him to get back in his cage.
85
posted on
12/04/2006 5:49:38 PM PST
by
Centurion2000
(If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
To: FreedomCalls
To: FreedomCalls
Messner - what a fat slob.
87
posted on
12/04/2006 5:51:44 PM PST
by
Right Wing Assault
("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Why incarcerate these animals if not to attempt rehab? They are undoubtedly trying. I don't know if they have that much to work with in this case. These kids remind me of that bunch in NJ that gang raped, beat and finally drowned one of their friends. Their victim was only 12 but the gang of boys and girls that murdered her was not much older. With this kind of behavior at such a young age I don't know that rehab is really possible.
Why not just do all of us and his next victim a favor and take out the trash now?
Because the SCOTUS says we can't.
88
posted on
12/04/2006 5:54:19 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
To: FreedomCalls
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, too bad!
89
posted on
12/04/2006 6:00:27 PM PST
by
BlessedBeGod
(Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
To: Billthedrill
You're too kind.. I want the full 22 years... I know, I know.. I can be a hard ass.. but what the hey, you do the crime, you do the time..
90
posted on
12/04/2006 6:04:12 PM PST
by
tje
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Sociopaths like that are wired wrong. They are more like rabid animals than human beings. There is really nothing there to reform. There is no "there" there.
91
posted on
12/04/2006 6:07:02 PM PST
by
Wilhelm Tell
(True or False? This is not a tag line.)
To: atomic_dog
Man, that must have been painful. Underneath all the polish, I guess we're still the stone-age souls that need young men to undergo "rites of passage." And in the long run, it's probably a solid instinct.
My instinct is to dust the perpetrators immediately.
92
posted on
12/04/2006 6:10:16 PM PST
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: Mike-o-Matic
Let's see if he gets more mercy than he gave. I guess that's one way of looking at it. Prison must be hell on earth.
93
posted on
12/04/2006 6:13:43 PM PST
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: FreedomCalls
The judge and the state both argued that being deprived services and being locked away is precisely the point of prison. Warren Messner will spend the next 22 years in prison without the chance for parole. Wow! Some common sense from the bench.
To: FreedomCalls
He can't handle 8 months in juvy? Try 20 years in the Army, you p*ssy. I'm more of a man than you'll ever be, LOL!
95
posted on
12/04/2006 6:15:52 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: AmericanArchConservative
[Son of Sam] knows he will never get out of prison, he flatly acknowledges the justice of his sentence without dispute ... he is where he belongs, and he accepts and embraces that. Yes indeed. God works in funny ways. People don't remember that vengeance ... is His!
96
posted on
12/04/2006 6:25:43 PM PST
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: AmericanArchConservative
I should amend that to, "vengeance ... is His" -- for a reason!
97
posted on
12/04/2006 6:27:12 PM PST
by
Finny
(God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
To: theDentist
You got a purdy mouth, boy...
98
posted on
12/04/2006 6:30:56 PM PST
by
gogeo
(Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
To: RVN Airplane Driver; AmericanArchConservative
Frankly post like yours are void of real thought...
_________________________________________________________
There is no sinner that God cannot love or forgive. As far as I can tell this person has not looked for redemption.
I can't find the verse but I recall Jesus saying that everyone might understand a hungry man stealing bread, but he must still pay back seven times the value.
99
posted on
12/04/2006 6:44:33 PM PST
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: FreedomCalls
Yeah, he should be out on the streets so he can murder some more people. He should be thankful he is getting out in 22 years because he deserves to be locked up for the rest of his life. If the victim wasn't homeless his sentence would be worse. He probably won't be worried about boredom when they ship him to the adult jail.
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