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CNET Editor's body found by Searchers (Update #941)
CNET TV ^ | 12-04-06 | From CNET TV

Posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:35 PM PST by sockmonkey

Wife and two daughters of senior editor James Kim found in Oregon; search is still on for James Kim, who left the car on foot two days ago.

The wife and daughters of missing CNET senior editor James Kim have been found alive and airlifted to a local hospital, authorities announced at a press conference in Merlin, Ore., Monday afternoon.

James Kim left the car on snowshoes two days ago to seek help and has not been found, the official said. The search for him continues.

According to the official speaking at the news conference, the conditions of Kati, Penelope and Sabine are not yet known. More details are expected at a press conference at 5 p.m. PST, which CNET will stream live.

Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.

After searches in Oregon's Curry and Douglas counties, new information on missing CNET senior editor James Kim and his family narrowed the search back to the Bear Camp area in Josephine County, according to reports Monday.

A cell phone tower received a signal from one of the family's cell phones at about 1:30 a.m. on Sunday near Glendale, but officials say the signal is only an indicator the family could have been within 26 miles of Glendale at that time, according to a report in The Oregonian.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: beprepared; cnet; family; jameskim; kim; missing; missingfamily; oregon; pragmatism
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To: woodbutcher

Would like to hear the stories sometime.

Your reaction just seemed harsh for this kind of thread.


201 posted on 12/04/2006 6:00:28 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: OldFriend

Great must-have for the survival kit! Thanks!


202 posted on 12/04/2006 6:02:20 PM PST by oneamericanvoice
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To: OldFriend

Great must-have for the survival kit! Thanks!


203 posted on 12/04/2006 6:02:25 PM PST by oneamericanvoice
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To: BearWash
Prayers for Mr. Kim to come home safely to his family!


204 posted on 12/04/2006 6:02:37 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"Indeed. As long as human creatures aren't a threat, they shouldn't be killed. And in practically no case should people want any human creature to be killed if it is unnecessary."

HUH ? WTH are you talking about?


205 posted on 12/04/2006 6:03:22 PM PST by Beagle8U
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To: cajungirl

Mine said the same thing. "There's no way I would have stayed in that car when I could have possibly saved my family by going for help. You expect me to be a coward so we all either live or die together? I don't think so. If I can increase the chances of saving you, I will take that chance AFTER supplying you, of course."

Which means, he'll leave tired and weakened. I guess we won't be taking any vacations in the great Northwest in the fall.


206 posted on 12/04/2006 6:07:31 PM PST by publana (yes, I checked the preview box without previewing)
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To: cajungirl

I did not make them. Uncle Sam taught them to me.


207 posted on 12/04/2006 6:08:25 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: woodbutcher

Besides, we who do have a lot of time are not impressed.<<<

Perhaps you speak of your "time" and acquaintences only to impress people, but the conversation here derived from the subject at hand and was not designed to impress anyone, but rather to share relief we've all experienced at a partially good ending to what could have been tragic.

You don't know the "time" or backgrounds of any of us, do you, not that it even pertains to the conversation. One can always tell a self-important person by the nature of their assumptions, and you and grandiosity appear to be well acquainted.


208 posted on 12/04/2006 6:09:35 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: cajungirl
Good evening.
"But somehow, the backcountry scares me more than gangs,,,odd isn't it.'

There isn't a thing that can happen to you in nature that you can't prepare for. Urban perils can be totally illogical and more deadly because of it.

That said, freezing environments scare the bejeezus out of me.

Michael Frazier
209 posted on 12/04/2006 6:11:17 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: BearWash

Actually I have picked up some good ideas from the thread.

It is a good thread.

It is just that there are so many pilots around the internet that it would be easy for a thread to go completely over the edge with hanger flying stories and bury the original thread.


210 posted on 12/04/2006 6:11:53 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: Mjaye
What does your aviation experience have to do with the survival of the Kims. They were driving not flying.
211 posted on 12/04/2006 6:13:55 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Dead Dog
Folks, DO NOT EVER DO THIS. Stick with the vehicle. People tend to wait until they are too cold and weak to make it out before they leave, and a car WILL be found, people often aren't.

Excellent advice.

212 posted on 12/04/2006 6:13:58 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: tubebender

Preparation for a cross country flight in a light plane is much like preparation for winter driving. And most pilots have had at least a passing acquaintance with survival training.


213 posted on 12/04/2006 6:19:07 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think part of the problem is that the father is young enough and healthy enough to hike quite a ways -- and get himself well out of range of the initial rescuers.


214 posted on 12/04/2006 6:22:58 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: woodbutcher

Can you tell us about 'The Man Who Rode The Thunder'?


215 posted on 12/04/2006 6:23:21 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Unfortunately if you are familar with three other similar stories from this area. They were all rescued in part due to the fact that they did leave their car. I think it is a judgement call and it has to be tough to sit with the weather being clear and you are not seeing any signs of rescue or attempt.

One of the issues seems to be recurring is people make the wrong turn on the wrong road and they end up traveling much farther down the wrong path than anyone thinks. So for search and rescue it is nearly impossible to pick the right area to search.

Thank goodness for cellular and Cingular stepping up to use triangulation to focus the search.

It is a shame James left the vehicle but would if he ran into a rescue party first and brought them back to his family...

It comes down to a judgement call. He felt his family was in a bad situation but was fairly stable (considering the weather was good just cold) and they were running out of their few consumables (specifically tires to burn). He just felt he had to try something.

It is a shame he didn't come back at 1:30pm as he had planned maybe he just thought he had to go for it and he did.

We can only hope he will make it out alive. I fear he may have been injured going into the creek area...I do not know why he decided to try to traverse that slope from the road.

Just my two cents...


216 posted on 12/04/2006 6:24:23 PM PST by surfer
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To: Mjaye
You don't know the "time" or backgrounds of any of us, do you, not that it even pertains to the conversation. One can always tell a self-important person by the nature of their assumptions, and you and grandiosity appear to be well acquainted.


I have picked up some good pointer from this thread. I would rather stick to that.

But in response to your comment, had I wanted to impress anyone with my time, I would have done so about the third or so post.

Not under the name woodbutcher, but another, I have been on the internet since the days when Compu-serve was about the only thing unless you were a real techie and nowhere on the net will you find a hanger flying story from/about/by me.

Besides, almost all hanger flying stories have their roots in poor preflight planning. I always felt that a good reason not to be the star of the hanger flying sessions.

So much for my trying to impress.
217 posted on 12/04/2006 6:28:31 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: sockmonkey

Praise God that they found them alive. Prayers will continue that they will find him alive too. It doesn't look good since he's been out in the weather for 2 days already. It will be a miracle if they find him alive, but God is still in the miracle business, so it could happen. I honestly never thought they would find any of them alive.


218 posted on 12/04/2006 6:29:13 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
I'd suggest a two-way radio as well, either a CB radio or a ham radio.

You can buy a handheld aviation tranceiver for a couple of hundred bucks. With that you can talk to any airplane in your line of sight, including airliners flying over. If you put out a mayday on one of those radios, you would probably be heard by a dozen airliners right away.

Aviation Tranceiver

219 posted on 12/04/2006 6:29:30 PM PST by poindexter
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To: sockmonkey

I checked the major map services a few days ago for the quickest route from Roseburg to Gold Beach. Off I-5, ALL map services specified turning onto the Primary east-west road just below Roseburg; NO map service specfied the Secondary east-west road that is much further to the south, where the car was found.


220 posted on 12/04/2006 6:29:31 PM PST by mdefranc
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