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Side Effects at the Pharmacy [Nine states order Wal Mart to raise the price of prescriptions]
New York Times ^ | November 30, 2006 | MILT FREUDENHEIM

Posted on 12/02/2006 10:47:22 AM PST by grundle

Wal-Mart boasts that its new $4 generic drug program is disrupting the market, attracting new customers to its stores and starting the nation on a road that will ultimately squeeze billions of dollars from prescription drug spending.

“I was never a customer of Wal-Mart,” said Frank Ganci, 74, a retired independent contractor who lives in Ridgefield, N.J. He has no drug insurance, despite being eligible for it under Medicare, because he considers the monthly premiums too high.

Mr. Ganci said he recently paid $12 for a month’s supply of three generic drugs at the Wal-Mart in Secaucus — atenolol for a leaky heart valve and two blood pressure drugs, hydrochlorothiazide and lisinopril.

His drugs had cost him $110 at his local pharmacy last month, he said. More than half of that was spent on a name-brand drug, which his doctor switched to generic atenolol so that he could buy it under the Wal-Mart program.

The $4 prescriptions have turned him into a Wal-Mart shopper, Mr. Ganci said. “If they don’t make up the money on prescriptions, they’re going to make it up on my clothes and food purchases.”

Wal-Mart said earlier this week that in nine other states — including California, Minnesota and Pennsylvania — it had taken 55 drugs off the $4 list and was charging $9 for them in deference to state regulations that prohibit pricing below cost if doing so could drive competing stores out of business.

“These states have low-cost laws, and we wanted to be in compliance,” said David Tovar, a Wal-Mart spokesman. While the laws vary, Mr. Tovar said, the $9 price seemed to comply with them all.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drivebymedia; genericdrugs; healthcare; irony; liberals; miltfreudenheim; msm; newyorktimes; prescriptiondrugs; prescriptions; pricecontrols; walmart
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To: grundle; Mrs.Nooseman; Diana in Wisconsin; bfree; Graybeard58; CSM; metesky; wanderin; sitetest; ...

WalMart PING................


21 posted on 12/02/2006 11:59:50 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Graybeard58

I seriously contemplated hitting my Nanny State list. I've got a serious problem with the government controlling prices in an allegedly free market.


22 posted on 12/02/2006 12:00:58 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: grundle

This shows the hypocrisy out there. Walmart lowers the cost and now they are griping it is unfair. I worked for a well known drug store and I know they are all charging well above the cost. Don't buy it, this is one of the reasons costs are so high!


23 posted on 12/02/2006 12:05:46 PM PST by dforest
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To: jdub
"Competition is a good thing."

Yes it is, and it's the exact reason that the government should stay out of it.

If a business cannot survive on it's merits and compete in the market place,then it needs to adjust if it's going to survive at all.

Price fixing by the government isn't done to help anyone. It's done to make it 'fair' to those who cry the loudest about 'unfair competition'.

Too bad for them because competition is what capitalism is all about. Government interference is nothing more than 'nanny stateism' and 'Socialism'. Period..
24 posted on 12/02/2006 12:17:09 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: jdub
Competition is a good thing.

Natural competition is a good thing. Outside of certain contexts, however, artificially-maintained competition is a bad thing.

To be sure, there are times artificially-maintained competitiveness is a good thing. In some sports, for example, the goal of a league is to stage many competitive games, rather than to try to work to establish the world's best team. What good would it do for the NFL to concentrate revenues on the best teams so that there were only a couple of teams that dominated everything?

California's electrical market was an illustrative example of artificial competition. In a real competitive market, companies will try to bet on future electrical costs by purchasing what amount to electricity futures. Of course, companies that make good purchases will have an enormous advantage over those that do not; this will allow them to sell electricity to consumers at lower prices. California didn't like that idea, though. They instead forbid companies from doing things that would allow them to compete agressively, thus maintaining a market in which all players were "competitive" because none could actually compete.

25 posted on 12/02/2006 12:50:22 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Beagle8U
Nonsense, the dumb-as-a-hammer "gray panthers" are what put them into office. These duffers will not change their ways ever. No matter how many times it is demonstrated that democrapts raise taxes after being elected, and put these people out of their homes, these morons say "huh" after their taxes are raised by the lying crud they elect.

Your conceit is like expecting the blacks to change their voting habits.

26 posted on 12/02/2006 12:52:41 PM PST by GregoryFul (There's no truth in the New York Times)
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To: grundle
Wal-Mart said earlier this week that in nine other states — including California, Minnesota and Pennsylvania — it had taken 55 drugs off the $4 list and was charging $9 for them in deference to state regulations that prohibit pricing below cost if doing so could drive competing stores out of business.

Yes, thank heavens for the Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog Rule. That will help everybody.

-ccm

27 posted on 12/02/2006 1:14:39 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: headstamp

Thank you Wisconsinstan. Wisconsinstan is one of the states that have this ridiculous law.


28 posted on 12/02/2006 1:17:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Bigh4u2
Price fixing by the government isn't done to help anyone. It's done to make it 'fair' to those who cry the loudest about 'unfair competition'.

Baloney. Price fixing by the gubbmint is proportionate to how much money is "donated" to the pols by lobbyists, plain and simple.

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 12/02/2006 1:28:38 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: VOA

Not permitting below cost selling is not price fixing, it's part of an economic regulatory practice that prevents predatory pricing. Selling below cost prevents the seller from driving competitors from the market whcih then allows the predatory seller to recoup his losses caused during his below cost selling period by charging non-competitive prices. In federal law it's part of Section Two of the Sherman Act and several states have similar laws. The concept has been part of our laws since at least 1924 and perhaps back to the Sherman Act's passage in 1880.


30 posted on 12/02/2006 1:30:29 PM PST by middie
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To: Gabz

Oh, yeah. Wisconsin legislators were b*tchin' about this ten minutes after it was announced. *Rolleyes*

I'm going to let the dust settle then see what I can do to reduce DH's med expenses each month. either way our company (which means US) pays for them, but every penny counts!

It'll either be Wal-Mart or Walgreens, which will nearly match Wal-Mart (and which is three minutes from me, versus a good twenty.)


31 posted on 12/02/2006 1:41:33 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: jdub
its to eliminate competition, which in the long run will allow higher prices.

No, sir, it's to get you in the store so you will maybe buy other things. Loss leaders are fair.

32 posted on 12/02/2006 1:42:24 PM PST by Ace's Dad ("There are more important things: Friendship, Bravery...")
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To: GregoryFul
dumb-as-a-hammer "gray panthers"

Your repugnant derogation is outrageously offensive to hammers everywhere.

33 posted on 12/02/2006 2:12:55 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It'll either be Wal-Mart or Walgreens, which will nearly match Wal-Mart (and which is three minutes from me, versus a good twenty.)

Same here, and I can use the drive-through pharmacy at Walgreens, as opposed to navigating through herds of humanity on foot.

34 posted on 12/02/2006 2:15:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: GregoryFul

"Your conceit is like expecting the blacks to change their voting habits."

They don't care about taxes, they don't pay any. They do care about the price of rx drugs. That is what this thread is about!


35 posted on 12/02/2006 2:38:12 PM PST by Beagle8U (Charlie Rangel is teaching the "True Conservatives" a lesson......( there really is a difference))
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To: grundle

I will be driving 35 miles to a town tomorrow that has a Walmart. While not the only reason for going to the town, Alpena, Michigan, I will be stopping at Walmart. I try to spend money at WalMart as much as I can because of the attacks on it by the communazi unions.


36 posted on 12/02/2006 2:44:45 PM PST by RushLake (I neutered my dog; now he's a liberal.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Rite Aid will also match the price, or so they told me.


37 posted on 12/02/2006 5:13:41 PM PST by babygene
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To: nothingnew

"It's done to make it 'fair' to those who cry the loudest about 'unfair competition'."

In case you didn't notice, that was sarcasm.

Hence the quotation marks.


38 posted on 12/02/2006 6:48:06 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

You'd think Wal-Mart would make Ralph Nader proud. Not wanting to be subsidized by the gov't and everything.


39 posted on 12/02/2006 9:40:10 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: grundle

Pennsylvania. Why am I not surprised?


40 posted on 12/02/2006 9:41:42 PM PST by airborne (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Jesus is the reason for the season!!)
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