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1 posted on 11/30/2006 1:28:22 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

(playing the part of the brainless MSM)

June what?...the 5th?...20th?..huh huh?...can we watch?...can we take photos?...huh huh?...are the US troops gonna leave on helicopters?..huh huh?....

(f'in twits)

Doogle


2 posted on 11/30/2006 1:33:06 PM PST by Doogle (USAF 68-73...."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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To: shrinkermd

All right by me.

They need to have the ability, desire, and the firepower.

Maliki would be insane to ship the US out too soon....his own head is on the block. He needs Saddam dead, imho. He also needs US airpower and logistics to remain.


3 posted on 11/30/2006 1:33:53 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: shrinkermd
One thing for sure. When a Muslim leader says something, you can bank on it.

/sarc
4 posted on 11/30/2006 1:35:02 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: shrinkermd

I certainly hope so. If Iraq becomes another Vietnam 1975, our foreign policy will be torn to shreds. We might as well go isolationist because no one would trust us to help them, and thus won't be our ally.


5 posted on 11/30/2006 1:35:36 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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Great news if it's true.

One thing the left doesn't understand about us: we don't want to be at war right now. It would be wonderful if we weren't. But what we get that they don't is that it isn't a matter of what you want. This is something we HAVE to do, and failure is not an option.

I do want for us to be able to begin a pull-out from Iraq. I only want it to be done when the Iraqi security forces are able to handle the situation on their own. Anti-warsies want the troops to come home tomorrow (huge disaster).

Unfortunately, pull out of Iraq...then prepare for the next battle in the WOT.


6 posted on 11/30/2006 1:42:39 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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I think that Bush is saying one thing in Public "We will stand by them as long as they need us" and then saying a different thing in private "Get your act together cause we are out by June of 2007".

I do not see this as dishonest. It is a part of life that you do not tell your enemies what your plans are. Its like feinting with your left and landing a right..part of the game we must play to survive.


7 posted on 11/30/2006 1:43:27 PM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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I think that Bush is saying one thing in Public "We will stand by them as long as they need us" and then saying a different thing in private "Get your act together cause we are out by June of 2007".

I do not see this as dishonest. It is a part of life that you do not tell your enemies what your plans are. Its like feigning with your left and landing a right..part of the game we must play to survive.


8 posted on 11/30/2006 1:43:55 PM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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It is has been slightly delayed IMHO.


9 posted on 11/30/2006 1:49:18 PM PST by ziggy_dlo (THE LAND OF THE FREE, FOUGHT FOR BY THE BRAVE!!!)
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POSTED EARLIER HERE Iraq 'Ready Next June To Handle Own Security'
13 posted on 11/30/2006 1:58:14 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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Maliki is on drugs.
Turn the whole of Iraq over and watch the bloodletting REALLY begin.


14 posted on 11/30/2006 2:03:49 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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Personally, I think you should watch the joint press conference held today by President Bush and President Maliki for information, rather than comments made on ABC News.


15 posted on 11/30/2006 2:18:23 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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I guess they want us to leave so they can have their civil war unobstructed.


17 posted on 11/30/2006 2:32:10 PM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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That is about the time I want to start the withdrawals, so that works for me.

Later than that and I think it is too long.


22 posted on 11/30/2006 3:43:30 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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It's amazing how quickly the RATS did their magic when they came into power! Oh, they had absolutely nothing to do with this? I want to see how quickly they come out and take credit.


25 posted on 11/30/2006 6:06:58 PM PST by kcrackel (Let's make the Democrats the Miniority Party Forever!)
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Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said on Thursday his government's forces would be able to take over security command from U.S. troops by June 2007 -- a move which could allow the United States to start withdrawing.

In June 2007 nobody will remember this promise. See my tagline.

26 posted on 11/30/2006 6:58:52 PM PST by A. Pole (Wimpy: "I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.")
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Watching Donald Trump on CNBC "the big idea" right now. According to Donald: Bush has squandered the world's goodwill. Everyone hates the USA. We can't win in Iraq so we must leave now. Bush has made a climate of hatred in this country that is unprecedented. Divisiveness is Bush's fault. When we leave Iraq, a terrible tyrant will assume power who will make Saddam seem like a baby. Bush has surrounded himself with idiots. Rumsfeld is the worst. Condoleeza has not accomplished anything. Trump's friend, a Democratic congressman, reports an unprecedented hatred and divisiveness due to Bush. Bush is an utter failure as CEO. And he adds that he loves Ted Turner, he's great.


29 posted on 11/30/2006 7:45:28 PM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: shrinkermd

This must mean we are going to attack Iran this winter.


30 posted on 11/30/2006 8:15:17 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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>>Good news if true.<<

In a perfect world it would not only be true but we would (at first) only pull back to bases within Iraq so we were prepositioned.


32 posted on 11/30/2006 10:40:35 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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Sounds a little early. The security situation isn't exactly good right now and the Iraqi government and their PM haven't done much to inspire confidence. I think 07 would be the earliest possible date. I wouldn't be surprised if it took longer. I only hope that our leaders have the backbone to finish the mission. The consequences of an early pullout will be tremendous and may more than cancel out the benifits from the war.


44 posted on 12/01/2006 6:53:39 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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There are two separate issues.

THE IRAQI MILITARY *CAN* FIGHT TO PREVENT A COUP D' ETAT AND IN CASE OF A FOREIGN INVASION, MIGHT, GIVEN ENOUGH US SUPPORT, REPEL THE ENEMY.

Hence, in a conventional war, it might be true that the Iraqi Military can be ready in 7 months.

THe Iraqi National Police are a different thing. They are responsible for LOCAL Peace and Order and all indicators tell us that they are practically helpless, especially in the SUNNI Triangle area. These are the front line fighters against daily murders and terrorism and they seem to be unable to do their job for several reasons ---

* They are themselves being targeted for killing.

* Corruption and Sectarian support

* Not enough training and equipment.

It is the Iraqi Police that will be the wildcard here. Unless they are able to handle local peace and order, we'll still have the same level of violence we are seeing now.


46 posted on 12/01/2006 7:46:03 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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