Faced with Radical Islam, Europe Is in Danger of Decay (Hirsi Ali alert!)

American Enterprise Institute ^ | 11/30/2006 | Ayaan Hirsi Ali

[Dark Skies]

Created on a humanist base, your institutions are the expression of the life here on earth...

The rest of the article is good but this is, of course, an error.

[Dark Skies]

I thought this was the best point made...

"If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."

[Eyes Unclouded]

I dunno ... I think deep down the muslims should be afraid of the European people. If one looks at who is capable of killing how many people for kicks I think the Euro's will win that prize(I use the term loosly) handily. Its not like they don't know how to round people up and do away with them.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

To be expected of a European. (Though, of course, there are exceptions, and there are many American atheists, too).

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

ping for future.

[Gunny Gene]

I suppose that there may be some people who would dispute the basic argument, but I think that the question is really that we have not come to terms with the logical conclusion: What to do about it?

Put simply; if we cannot co-exist at some level of violence that is mutually acceptable, then one or the other must be destroyed absolutely and finally.

Therein lies the problem. Islam has taken that decision - centuries ago. The West has not, and probably cannot, because even the consideration of total and absolute annihilation of another culture violates the West's worldview. Which is why we have not already done it, and why we insist that our military "do more, with less". We have decided (whether we know it or not )that we will seek a mutually acceptable level of violence.

So be it. Plan accordingly.

[Dark Skies]

I think you're correct. IMO, muslims in Euro have walked into a gun fight armed only with a dull knife. When the Europeans finally get fed up, it'll be a bloodbath.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Worse, she gives freedom to the enemies of freedom. At the heart of your beautiful West, it is the right-thinking people with a socializing tendency who do this the most, in the spirit of pacifism, voluntary blindness and conformism, when confronted with the rise of fundamentalism, when confronted with the aggressiveness of radicals, when confronted with the dangers of communitarianism. Stupid. Like the data palm tree. Please: don’t be doqon.

..stupid is as stupid does

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

1. People are people. If a group of people had some non-physical, non-genetic traits or behaviors in the past, their descendants would not necessarily have those same traits and behaviors. This goes for both Europeans and Arabs/North Africans (who, along with Pakistanis in the UK, make up the bulk of European Muslims).

   A brave warrior could have a cowardly child. A psycotic islamofascist could have a normal child.

   Muslim countries do have a poor track record for fighting ability. It could stem from unwillingness to take orders and be organized rather than an issue of bravery or intelligence, though.

[knews_hound]

Outstanding article.

I feel like some must have felt in 1939.  The dangers are obvious, the villains easy to see.  Yet, most of the world is consumed with ignoring the gathering storm in order to live for the moment.

I often ask my liberal friends, those that still talk to me anyway, what they think the world will be like in 5 years.

Almost without exception, they assume it will be largely like it is now.  They nearly all expect that their goals, universal health care, gay marriage etc. will have come to pass or will be in progress.

I take that time to remind them that in 5 years, Iran will have numerous atomic weapons and, true to their stated intentions, will almost certainly have instigated a war in the middle east.  Israel may have been nuked, perhaps by multiple weapons, and the retaliation is likely to be astounding.  The US cannot sit out such an event and will likely be drawn into the conflict.  I also remind them that al Quieda will almost certainly have struck us again, and that the causalities may run into the hundreds of thousands if they succeed.  Parts of the US may be rendered uninhabitable due to nuclear or bio-weapons.  Europe will decide to sit out any such conflict in order to appease their vocal and growing Muslim populations.

I ask them, under what circumstances do they think it might possibly be different, and the informed ones will always admit that, yeah, all of these events are in fact likely to occur.

Does it faze them in the least?

Nope.

I'm afraid we are doomed to repeat WW2, but on a much more grand scale.

And the sad thing is, knowing that events such as what we see today have only one logical outcome and the Left still refuses to accept it, dooms us to repeat them.

What fools.

Cheers,

knewshound

http://www.knewshound.blogspot.com/

[sr4402]

I'm afraid I have to agree with her. Our forms of government are relative to man and often do not, and even our own, may not survive the onslaught of evil. Indeed our culture is attempting to throw off the Ten Commandments and embrace alternative and relative thought processes. Indeed, will we be able to withstand the onslaughts of Islam currently barking at our borders when we have already accepted adultery as a cultural norm?

The onslaught of the euphemism "Alternative Lifestyle" is already finishing the breakup of the American family. More men and women life outside of wedlock than in it in America. With this moral relativism and relativism man to man, is it any surprise that we lose our freedoms because we simply wanted to consume it upon our pleasures and avoid moral absolutes.

She is right and more and more I see our culture accepting more and more deviancy more and more adultery and even the courts have begun legalized murder in the case of the helpless.

Unless our nation soon turns around, we, like the Romans, the ancient Egyptians will be a memory on a stone block and a wonderance of where we went wrong.

[Eyes Unclouded]

True true, but some races and people's have exhibited a strong ability throughout history. The British used to call them martial races. My grandfather fought alongside Gurkha in ww2 and gave me one of their blades passed on as a gift to him before he died. He told me that as long as they live they will be warriors. Sure being comfortable has softened up Europeans, who feel the need to apologize for colonizing the world, but I personally think that deep down they all are tough bastards. Except the french.

[American in Singapore]

we have not come to terms with the logical conclusion: What to do about it?

You are utterly correct... it's the same argument I had with some new acquaintenances from Australia this evening. They all agree that radical Islam and bombings (Bali anybody?) is a bad thing and will never go away on its own, but not wanting to draw any kind of line in the sand... what the f^ck kind of wussy stance is that?

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Respectfully disagree. Of the opinion that no (physical) subdivisions of humanity have particular behavioral qualities based upon their genetic makeup (culture and tradition is another thing).

[Eyes Unclouded]

Well if people are raised a certain way long enough wont it play out in the genetic selection? I mean generals can raise pacifists sure but if you cultivate enough warriors long enough SOME traits must sink through... this is all conjecture I don't know any antrhopology or that much biological pysch...

[Rummyfan]

BFLR.

Every time I read about Van Gogh's murder I say to myself 'he should have been armed'! Of course in The Netherlands that's not so easy.

[popdonnelly]

I vote against such stupidity. It's better to go to war now than to await the disaster that will come.

[Raymann]

Here's one :)

I work in public policy in DC and I seen her at a talk not long alfter she arrived here. She's very soft spoken (in contrast to her writing) but I can see all that controversy weighed heavily on her. She said she was just glad to live somewhere where she didn't have to look over her soldier all the time.

[knews_hound]

Sadly my FRiend, we are a small minority.

Neville Chamberline, I mean John Kerry will save the day.

/Sarc

Cheers,

knewshound

[vpintheak]

Humanism once was based on glorifying God. Hasn't been that way for a long time. I am sending this article out to everyone I know.