Created on a humanist base, your institutions are the expression of the life here on earth...The rest of the article is good but this is, of course, an error.
To: Dark Skies
I thought this was the best point made...
"If you dont know what you have to fear, you will not survive."
2 posted on
11/30/2006 12:14:43 PM PST by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: Dark Skies
To be expected of a European. (Though, of course, there are exceptions, and there are many American atheists, too).
ping for
To: Dark Skies
I suppose that there may be some people who would dispute the basic argument, but I think that the question is really that we have not come to terms with the logical conclusion: What to do about it?
Put simply; if we cannot co-exist at some level of violence that is mutually acceptable, then one or the other must be destroyed absolutely and finally.
Therein lies the problem. Islam has taken that decision - centuries ago. The West has not, and probably cannot, because even the consideration of total and absolute annihilation of another culture violates the West's worldview. Which is why we have not already done it, and why we insist that our military "do more, with less". We have decided (whether we know it or not )that we will seek a mutually acceptable level of violence.
So be it. Plan accordingly.
To: Dark Skies
Worse, she gives freedom to the enemies of freedom. At the heart of your beautiful West, it is the right-thinking people with a socializing tendency who do this the most, in the spirit of pacifism, voluntary blindness and conformism, when confronted with the rise of fundamentalism, when confronted with the aggressiveness of radicals, when confronted with the dangers of communitarianism. Stupid. Like the data palm tree. Please: dont be doqon...stupid is as stupid does
To: Dark Skies
Outstanding article.
I feel like some must have felt in 1939. The dangers are obvious, the villains easy to see. Yet, most of the world is consumed with ignoring the gathering storm in order to live for the moment.
I often ask my liberal friends, those that still talk to me anyway, what they think the world will be like in 5 years.
Almost without exception, they assume it will be largely like it is now. They nearly all expect that their goals, universal health care, gay marriage etc. will have come to pass or will be in progress.
I take that time to remind them that in 5 years, Iran will have numerous atomic weapons and, true to their stated intentions, will almost certainly have instigated a war in the middle east. Israel may have been nuked, perhaps by multiple weapons, and the retaliation is likely to be astounding. The US cannot sit out such an event and will likely be drawn into the conflict. I also remind them that al Quieda will almost certainly have struck us again, and that the causalities may run into the hundreds of thousands if they succeed. Parts of the US may be rendered uninhabitable due to nuclear or bio-weapons. Europe will decide to sit out any such conflict in order to appease their vocal and growing Muslim populations.
I ask them, under what circumstances do they think it might possibly be different, and the informed ones will always admit that, yeah, all of these events are in fact likely to occur.
Does it faze them in the least?
Nope.
I'm afraid we are doomed to repeat WW2, but on a much more grand scale.
And the sad thing is, knowing that events such as what we see today have only one logical outcome and the Left still refuses to accept it, dooms us to repeat them.
What fools.
Cheers,
knewshound
http://www.knewshound.blogspot.com/
10 posted on
11/30/2006 12:33:07 PM PST by
knews_hound
(Sarcastically blogging since 2004.)
To: Dark Skies
I'm afraid I have to agree with her. Our forms of government are relative to man and often do not, and even our own, may not survive the onslaught of evil. Indeed our culture is attempting to throw off the Ten Commandments and embrace alternative and relative thought processes. Indeed, will we be able to withstand the onslaughts of Islam currently barking at our borders when we have already accepted adultery as a cultural norm?
The onslaught of the euphemism "Alternative Lifestyle" is already finishing the breakup of the American family. More men and women life outside of wedlock than in it in America. With this moral relativism and relativism man to man, is it any surprise that we lose our freedoms because we simply wanted to consume it upon our pleasures and avoid moral absolutes.
She is right and more and more I see our culture accepting more and more deviancy more and more adultery and even the courts have begun legalized murder in the case of the helpless.
Unless our nation soon turns around, we, like the Romans, the ancient Egyptians will be a memory on a stone block and a wonderance of where we went wrong.
11 posted on
11/30/2006 12:34:05 PM PST by
sr4402
To: Dark Skies
BFLR.
Every time I read about Van Gogh's murder I say to myself 'he should have been armed'! Of course in The Netherlands that's not so easy.
16 posted on
11/30/2006 12:49:26 PM PST by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
To: Dark Skies
Humanism once was based on glorifying God. Hasn't been that way for a long time. I am sending this article out to everyone I know.
20 posted on
11/30/2006 1:24:37 PM PST by
vpintheak
(Yep.)
To: Dark Skies
Muslims, like Marxists, will kill you for speaking the truth.
But Muslims, unlike Marxists, don't have the management skills to set up gulags and concentration camps to kill millions. They're too busy killing each other.
22 posted on
11/30/2006 3:46:38 PM PST by
sergeantdave
(Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
To: Dark Skies
Europe is not now faced with Decay. Europe is well along in the process of Decay. It was Faced With Decay some time ago.
23 posted on
11/30/2006 3:59:38 PM PST by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: Dark Skies
I don't think decay is the word. If it is true the they have organized fighting groups in the thousands, that's an explosion bound to happen soon.
26 posted on
12/07/2006 9:26:00 AM PST by
rjp2005
(Lord have mercy on us)
To: Dark Skies
30 posted on
12/07/2006 4:14:04 PM PST by
Tribune7
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