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Flying while human is now discouraged.
1 posted on 11/29/2006 5:30:41 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Americans need space. Take out some of the seats and charge more for the ones with extra room.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 5:36:34 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: shrinkermd

Think LearJet.


3 posted on 11/29/2006 5:36:34 AM PST by allen08gop (America -- The Arsenal For Humanity)
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To: shrinkermd
The first time my wife and I went to Aruba we flew on a UPS jet. They chartered it out for the weekend. I must have had six inches between my knees and the seat in front of me.

Of course, you could tell the pilot was used to flying cargo. The plane did a virtual nose dive into Aruba. Some passengers were pretty nervous.

4 posted on 11/29/2006 5:36:40 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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I can see the day in the near future where space regulations are born - most of the airline seating is woefully inadequate. There should be as much leg, hip, and head room as the front seat of a mid-sized SUV.


5 posted on 11/29/2006 5:38:57 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: shrinkermd

My wife bemoans the end of the days when flying was something that you'd get dressed up for and people would act in a civilized manner. 

Last time we flew, I noticed two women who were flying in their pajamas.

People are herded into those planes like animals and conduct themselves similarly.

Owl_Eagle

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6 posted on 11/29/2006 5:40:04 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: shrinkermd
That's why they make these.
7 posted on 11/29/2006 5:40:43 AM PST by n230099 ("If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out.")
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You've gotta love SWA - hopefully others will follow (but I'm not holding my breath - AA just announced [albeit quietly] they're reducing the seat spacing on planes as they come in for overhaul). UA also has terrible seat spacing, but offers better seats if you're willing to pay around $60 more.


9 posted on 11/29/2006 5:50:03 AM PST by Tenyaka
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To: shrinkermd

I have flown only 5 or 6 times in my life and could hardly walk when i left the planes. Those close seats are killers.


12 posted on 11/29/2006 5:50:44 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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I, for one, would welcome the removal of 10% of coach seats, with the extra space distributed to provide extra leg-room throughout coach, even at the cost of a 10% fare increase.

Actually, since not all flights fly full, the profit-neutral solution would probably allow more seats to be removed to balance a 10% fare hike.


17 posted on 11/29/2006 6:00:43 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Good for Southwest Airlines for limiting the recline angle. If it were up to me, the seats (at least on planes intended for flights of two hours or less) wouldn't recline at all. If there is one person on the plane who decides to recline as far as possible, he or she is always sitting in front of me.

I suppose it's out of the question to go back to this setup:


23 posted on 11/29/2006 6:06:18 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (Some people are like Slinkies: totally useless, but fun to throw down a stair.)
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To: shrinkermd

I've sometimes thought it would be fun to fly first class for the extra room.

But then I realised that if you offered me 100 bucks to stand in a line for you for 2 hours, I'd do it.

So why would I spend 500 bucks just to have a little more room sitting for a couple of hours?

I guess I'm just cheap, but I don't think I'd want to spend 20 bucks more for a plane flight just to have an extra 2 inches of leg room. Of course, I'm pretty short so leg room isn't really an issue for me, I'm more concerned about space between seats in the aisles because I am overweight.


25 posted on 11/29/2006 6:08:02 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Hobbit Airlines


29 posted on 11/29/2006 6:09:32 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 44-48)
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6 ft, 2 in. here. On a 5 hour flight back from the West Coast, the girl in front of me decided to try to recline her seat. My knees were already up against the seatback even when it was upright, but she kept on trying. I politely informed her that my legs weren't going anywhere, unless she wanted to pay to upgrade me to first class.


30 posted on 11/29/2006 6:09:32 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: shrinkermd
Standard seating arrangement, first class and tourist:


33 posted on 11/29/2006 6:13:58 AM PST by DeFault User
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I take a 1hr 30 minute flight on average twice a week and on such a short flight, I see no reason to recline. Lack of space also makes it exceptionally rude to anyone behind.

If the person in front of me does recline, I generally ask them not to.

No-one has ever yet refused to put their seat upright.


51 posted on 11/29/2006 6:32:28 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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I'm amazed at the people that fly wearing flip-flops for shoes. Their feet would be cut to pieces if there was an emergency and we had to evacuate the plane.


53 posted on 11/29/2006 6:33:34 AM PST by Veggie Todd (Were those magic grits?)
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A pox on recliner seats in coach! You want to recline --- then go "recliner class".

We will be flying in a few weeks and I'm practicing a loud, whispered 'sh*t' for the moment the seater in front of me decides to push back. If it doesn't go up, then maybe I will act like one of those little kids who like to sit behind me and kick the seat back.


59 posted on 11/29/2006 6:56:35 AM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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Back when I was flying a little (pre 9/11), trying to carry-on everything for the trip was most of the problem.

It's funny to see a guy sitting there with his laptop case and laptop trying to squeeze-in "work". For most flights, you only have about 1-2 hours max of time you can work.

I'm 6-3, 300+ and flew coach. I never had big problems.


69 posted on 11/29/2006 7:21:23 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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For a good visual of Southwest's new seating plans, open up a can of sardines. Bon Appetite!


76 posted on 11/29/2006 7:32:33 AM PST by jonrick46
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Delta Airlines:

Aeroflot Russian Airlines:

You don't realize how good you've got it on US airlines until you fly on a Tupolev 134.

81 posted on 11/29/2006 8:14:27 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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