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It's Official: Media Body Burning Story is Bogus (Shiite vs. Sunni)
http://newsbusters.org/ ^ | November 27, 2006 | Greg Sheffield

Posted on 11/27/2006 3:41:07 PM PST by lowbridge

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To: ARealMothersSonForever; Valin
For you see, the mental masturbation by those that choose to deride and denigrate any opinions or conclusions that are contradictory to the groupthink became tiresome

Were you drinking when you wrote this last night?

Just curious.

101 posted on 11/28/2006 6:47:19 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: FARS; jmc1969
DoD Photo Essays

Baghdad’s neighborhood: Hurriyah

Sgt. Corey Tucker, Company A, 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, Multi-National Division - Baghdad, pulls security near an alleyway during Operation Half Nelson. Soldiers worked with local Iraqis to gather information on terrorist activities in Baghdad’s Hurriyah neighborhood, Oct. 4, 2006. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Raul Montano

Soldiers of Company A, 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, Multi-National Division - Baghdad, clear a building during Operation Half Nelson. Soldiers worked with the Iraqi army and local citizens to gather information on terrorist activity in Baghdad’s Hurriyah neighborhood, Oct. 4, 2006. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Raul Montano

Spc. Patrick Drake, Company A, 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, of Multi-National Division - Baghdad, sweeps an area while looking for possible enemy threats during Operation Half Nelson. The operation gave soldiers an opportunity to interact with residents of Baghdad’s Hurriyah neighborhood and gather information of terrorist activity, Oct. 4, 2006. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Raul Montano

Soldiers of Multi-National Division - Baghdad use a working dog to detect explosives during Operation Half Nelson in Baghdad’s Hurriyah neighborhood, Oct. 4, 2006. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Raul Montano

Soldiers from 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, Multi-National Division - Baghdad, talk with residents of Baghdad’s Hurriyah neighborhood during Operation Half Nelson, Oct. 4, 2006. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Raul Montano

Staff Sgt. Timothy Bell, Company A, 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, Multi-National Division - Baghdad, talks with residents of Baghdad’s Hurriyah neighborhood during Operation Half Nelson, Oct. 4, 2006. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Raul Montano

U.S. takes on community building in Iraq

By LAUREN FRAYER, Associated Press Writer Sat Nov 11, 5:05 PM ET

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. soldiers, automatic rifles buckled to their body armor, filed into a community center in a dangerous Shiite neighborhood of north Baghdad Saturday and for a few hours became social workers, cops on the beat and referees between feuding tribesmen. Tea was passed around, notes were taken, local sheiks spoke in wise tones, heads nodded vigorously in agreement and mundane problems such as garbage collection and distributing electricity generators were tackled. Maj. Michael Fazio, 36, from Warwick, N.Y., pulled out a cheat sheet — photocopied snapshots labeled with long tribal names that he tried to match with faces in the room. "This is the battlefield of today," Fazio said, gesturing at the 200 or assembled — half of them civilians, the rest U.S. and Iraqi military. "At certain levels we didn't know what we were in for, but we have adapted in our goal of trying to hand over Iraq."

When U.S. troops stormed into Baghdad and ousted Saddam Hussein, few probably understood just how hard it would be to hand the city's security back to its inhabitants, who are in the midst of killing one another in a sectarian slaughter of massive proportions. Neighborhood council meetings such as the one in Hurriyah on Saturday were a fixture before and after Saddam, but the U.S. is increasingly looking to them as part of a strategy to encourage Iraqi self-governance and communication between warring sects. To stabilize Baghdad, U.S. soldiers find themselves involved in solving local problems.

"We live on an Iraqi FOB (forward operating base), and we regularly share tea with militia leaders. It's interesting, and it's important to maintain dialogue," said Lt. Col. Steve Miska, a 37-year-old Greenport, N.Y. native.

"Any day if we're shooting bullets, we're not winning. Money is more effective here, and the way to do that is dialogue. You need to bring Sunnis and Shiites to the table to get reconciliation," he said. Shiites have taken over Hurriyah, a formerly Sunni enclave where U.S. forces have seen increasingly sophisticated attacks. U.S. troops routinely patrol the neighborhood to try to control sectarian violence.

The neighborhood council meeting was four weeks in the making and progress toward healing the divides was halting. The session lasted 3 1/2 hours, sometimes disintegrating into shouting matches between neighbors or rants against U.S. raids in the neighborhood. "It's insulting when we have women asleep and American soldiers conduct raids in the middle of the night. We're a troubled community, and it isn't fair to break down doors at midnight. We need to draw lines," said Adnan Kadhem Juwad, a school administrator in Hurriyah.

Capt. R. Tyler Willbanks, from Gallatin, Tenn., turned to a reporter and asked in a rhetorical whisper: "Did he mention there were 25 dead bodies a day before we got here?" The Army's 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry, 172nd Stryker Brigade took over security in Hurriyah in August. Since they began patrols, the 35-year-old company commander claimed he and his men had reduced the death toll in their section of Hurriyah to about three a day. Outside the auditorium, two U.S. Army snipers clicked their rifles on safety and kicked at tufts of grass to pass the time.

Inside, Iraqi and American soldiers tossed their helmets in a mound behind the last row of chairs. Al Kelly, a colonel with 21 years of infantry experience, leaned in to better hear his interpreter, and jotted notes in a leather-bound notebook.

Kelly, who commands the 172nd Stryker Brigade, estimated about 90 percent of those in the room had ties to Sunni insurgents or Shiite militias, although the Sunni contingent was very small. Militia leaders and death squad members by night, they are residents in the daytime who worry about getting the trash collected and seeing that police are stationed near their children's schools. Those are the problems where Kelly said he figured the U.S. forces might find an opening into the deeper strife that rages through Baghdad's increasingly hostile districts.

"It's the evolution of our mission here," said Staff Sgt. Tony Prudhomme, 32, from Wilmington, N.C. The American organizers of Saturday's session sat in the back rows behind tribal sheiks in long brown robes and turbans.

"We're here to facilitate a meeting between the Iraqi with the problem and the Iraqi with the solution. Someone figures out how much it'll cost, someone else comes up with the money, we try to get them to communicate and implement plans, and two months later, a pothole gets fixed," the 172nd's Capt. Tom Kurtz, 37, said sarcastically.

Miska, the lieutenant colonel, said he had found ways to gauge success.

"You measure it in terms of how many people show up, the nature of the dialogue and whether people continue to come — whether it looks like civilian leaders are taking ownership for decisions, and whether they're being supported by Iraqi security forces. That's our goal," Miska said.

"We need to give the 20-something Iraqi men more alternatives for tomorrow than just blowing people up." A few U.S. soldiers who arrange meetings such as the one on Saturday are based at Hohenfels, Germany, where the Army has hired an outside contractor with experience in the Balkans to train troops in conflict resolution. But most are acting on instinct as they try to negotiate between religious factions, set neighborhood councils or rebuild shattered infrastructure.

"I think we've got the hang of it now, but it took some time. The company commanders were the most unprepared. They're infantryman trained for kinetic warfare," said Kurtz, a fire support officer and spokesman for the 172nd Stryker Brigade.

"Before they deployed, if you'd asked any of these guys if they'd be taking on the role of a policeman or community leader, they'd have never imagined," he said. Many of the soldiers in the outfit placed great value on the meeting, perhaps more than anyone else in the room. It got them off the dangerous streets of Hurriyah for a few hours, safe for that much longer before they head home.

102 posted on 11/28/2006 7:15:59 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: lowbridge

Another shining example of MSM "professionalism" and "ethics" in action.sarc


103 posted on 11/28/2006 7:26:26 AM PST by Thombo2
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Alaska troops and Iraqis reflect on Rumsfeld's departure

Soldiers waded through a busy outdoor vegetable market in Hurriyah, a formerly Sunni neighborhood now dominated by Shiites. It's part of a crescent of Shiite dominance stretching from Sadr City in Baghdad's northeast across the Tigris River to neighborhoods like Hurriyah in the west, where U.S. forces have seen increasingly sophisticated attacks.

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104 posted on 11/28/2006 7:31:33 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Thombo2
Blog Reaction Roundup
105 posted on 11/28/2006 7:32:14 AM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

Where would we be without the internet?Thanx for the link:)


106 posted on 11/28/2006 7:35:24 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: lowbridge
The media is one of the enemies! Only when our fearless leaders figure this out will we win this battle. All the numbers of killed have been consistently inflated in an attempt to make this another perceived Vietnam.
107 posted on 11/28/2006 7:41:43 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: TomGuy
The Media is so hungry for anti-American, anti-US Military, anti-West materials that they will buy anything.

And if no one is selling, they will just make it up themselves, (see Mary Mapes and Dan Rather.)

I began looking at the mainstream media with skepticism nearly 40 years ago when Walter Cronkite painted Tet as a defeat for US troops, and I knew that it was not true. Today, I'm far past simply being skeptical of what they report. I assume up front that anything they report is a damn lie until I can ascertain from other sources if their is any truth at all in their story.

108 posted on 11/28/2006 7:58:54 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Thombo2
Egads, there child....Where would the lame stream media be without cheerleaders, liars, and demonrat supporters?

Once in a great while, maybe, a little truth would filter its way out and through the cheerleaders, liars, and demonrat supporters, but we know the lame stream media and their minions couldn't handle the truth, so we get cheerleaders, liars, and demonrat supporters views. I would LOL but I cry every time I hear the cheerleaders, liars, and demonrat supporters words fall near my ears. It truly hurts my brian, and then I know why we have so many people with their brains hurting in this country.

109 posted on 11/28/2006 8:03:43 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Unmarked Package
"Haven't we reached the point where, at the very least, the White House Press Secretary should refuse to respond to any story issued by AP without an independent source to corroborate it?"

If done well, it could be very funny and be as widely reported on as the original story. I bet Toney’s up to it, but I doubt the Republican Party could defend it when questioned/interrogated later.

110 posted on 11/28/2006 8:08:20 AM PST by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: jmc1969

Have you ever saw Defense Minister Abdul-Qader al-Obaidi? Is he Shia or Sunni?


111 posted on 11/28/2006 8:17:16 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: rocksblues
Retraction will be on page 56.

Yeah, page 56 of a 40 page paper. The LSM will try to stick by the original reports just because the story fits their agenda.

112 posted on 11/28/2006 8:21:05 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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To: technomage

This free-for-all being conducted by the Lame Stream Media will not stop until the majority of people stop buying/reading/watching/listening to their propaganda, and seek outside independent sources for news. We the People need to work together to shut these shils down.


113 posted on 11/28/2006 8:25:57 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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To: SoldierDad

Unconfirmed.. but accurate..


114 posted on 11/28/2006 8:28:14 AM PST by Dubya-M-Dees (Mary Mapes was the first in the MSM that had to participate in an election by the people... she lost)
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To: jmc1969

Imad al-Hasimi, a Sunni elder in Hurriyah, confirmed Hussein´s account. He told Al-Arabiya television he saw people who were soaked in kerosene, then set afire, burning before his eyes.

Two workers at Kazamiyah Hospital said the bodies from the clashes and immolations had been taken to the morgue at their facility. They refused to be identified by name, saying they feared retribution.

In spite of the police and witness accounts, however, President Jamal Talabani appeared to discount the reports. He emerged from meetings with other Iraqi political leaders late Friday and said Defense Minister Abdul-Qader al-Obaidi told him that the Hurriyah neighborhood had been quiet throughout the day.

According to Hussein, the police official, militiamen rampaged through the district, setting fire to several homes in addition to the four mosques that were bombed and burned.

Some residents claimed that the Mahdi Army, the militia loyal to radical anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, has begun kidnapping and holding Sunni hostages in order to slaughter them at funerals of Shiite victims of Baghdad´s sectarian violence.

Such claims cannot be verified but speak to the deep fear that grips Baghdad, where retaliation has become a part of daily life.

http://www.mymotherlode.com/News/article/id/D8LK07F80


115 posted on 11/28/2006 8:28:30 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: jmc1969
Found him jmc1969

Is he Shia or Sunni?

Iraqi Interior minister Jawad Bolani (C) speaks during a joint press conference with Defence minister Abdul Qader Mohammed Jassim al-Obeidi (R) and Higher Education minister Abed Dhiab al-Ujaili (L), in Baghdad, 20 November 2006. The ministers spoke about last week's kidnapping of dozens of people from a Ministry of Higher Education office in central Baghdad. 11:08 a.m. ET, 11/20/06

116 posted on 11/28/2006 8:39:40 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Valin

WOW. This list of "Jamil Hussein"-sourced stories should be inserted in the Congressional Record, quoted by all Republicans on the US House and Senate floors, and prominently posted by all US "journalism schools" (ain't gonna happen) as a horrible demonstration of lousy, lazy, "fake but accurate" op. ed. "journalism." The same "journalism" we saw in Vietnam.


117 posted on 11/28/2006 8:40:13 AM PST by CDB
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To: TexKat

True..


118 posted on 11/28/2006 8:53:16 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: TexKat
One witness said that the attacking Shi'i fanatics were carrying picks and digging tools, proof that they were indeed planning to dig up the body of the revered Shaykh 'Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani who died in 1166 C.E.

Grave robbers! What a bunch of kooks.

119 posted on 11/28/2006 9:01:09 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: CDB

It knocked my socks off.


120 posted on 11/28/2006 9:09:36 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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