Posted on 11/21/2006 1:14:33 AM PST by BnBlFlag
To conclude, the Democrats now have their John McCain.
Regards, Ivan
Andrew Jackson populist?
True, he bacame a politician.
We constantly see reference to RINOs in this forum. We can only hope that Webb becomes the first DINO. Normally the Democrats stick together - unlike the Republicans who when given the Presidency and both Congress couldn't move.
Now the RINO Virginia Senator Warner may run again to keep "experience" in the Senate. What a joke.
He's a genuine Benedict Arnold.
And to the men of North Carolina as well. Amen and I couldn't have said it better.
That Senator-elect Webb gave such a heartfelt speech definitely puts him on the good side of my list. I could care less what letter he has by his name
I seriously doubt Warner will be running again. Now the other Warner has a different sort of problem ~ something about "where's the intern".
I honor all those mentioned above.
The time as come to stand at last...
Let the drums start their long, long roll...
The bridge is burned, the die is cast...
To His grace I commend my soul...
For the glory,
For the Dixie that I love
For the way of live we cherish
Let us die or let us go
For the glory,
For the homes we hold so dear
Let us give the last full measure
Gathered here!
Let them all cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees!!!!
As a Scots-Irish who has had relatives in every war since the Revolution I'd say Webb is a first-class BSer. He'll be one of those liberals who'll vote the party line in Washington and come home to the Virginia mountains and talk smack about those sick people in Washington.
I hope he rots.
A wonderful speech: The truth is beginning to come out:
The Southern States were fighting to defend their land and
freedom from an invading North.
"The British took it in 1813 to little effect."
Mainly because all the Gov people had left.
Just like the Continental Congress in 1777.
What I don't understand is why Lincoln and his pals couldn't leave instead of holding MD hostage to protect their DC. Guess they didn't have the wherewithall to run the gov without their marble&granite buildings. ;-)
And actually, the Brits took it in 1814. ;-)
James Webb is not one to suffer fools.
And I can't imagine him being subservient to them.
Growing up in the south, I was fed the line that the rebellion was caused by reasons other than slavery. But the more I've read about what the secessionists themselves said, the more I realize that the secession was 100% about slavery. Maybe some guys doing the actual fighting from Lee to privates were acting out of state loyalty, but there would have been no confederacy and conflict in the first place if the Dixie big shots had not desired an unlimited slave empire. The only freedom the secessionists cared about was their own freedom to do what they wanted with their slaves.
Thanks.
I can't believe how many people fail to see just how self-serving this guy is.
I have no doubt, given his background, that he has certain impulses that are more conservative then the average Chuck Shumer liberal, but I also have no doubt, based on his history, that he essentially adopts whatever position seems at the time to advance him the most.
And like I said, if the gay nazi environmentalist yougurt eaters club seemed to be the way the wind was blowing, he'd instantly be the charter member.
The 'Battle Flag' flew over the South Carolina statehouse from 1964 and as long as the Democrats were in charge, very little attention was given.
Draw a time line and you will see that the arguments from the NAACP about the FLAG etc began as the DEMOCRATS began to lose political control of the south.
The attempt to keep re-inventing history to satisfy the uneducated could go on an on. We need to stop it.
Perspective time; please remember history, if we arn't careful we'll have to pull Abraham Lincoln out of our schools or rename Ft. Worth Texas, because Hispancis will discover he fought and killed their ancestors in the Mexican War. Uh, oh; so did Grant(who also owned slaves) - change the money....etc...etc...
Lincoln re-affirmed his strong support for gradual emancipation coupled with resettlement in his second annual message to Congress of December 1, 1862 and this proposal had five basic elements:
1. Because slavery was a "domestic institution," and thus the concern of the states alone, they -- and not the federal government -- were to voluntarily emancipate the slaves.
2. Slave-holders would be fully compensated for their loss.
3. The federal government would assist the states, with bonds as grants in aid, in meeting the financial burden of compensation.
4. Emancipation would be carried out gradually: the states would have until the year 1900 to free their slaves.
5. The freed blacks would be resettled outside the United States.
Bottom line: History is pretty rough on many sides and we're stuck with it.
A few more tidbits:
In early 1863, Lincoln discussed with his Register of the Treasury a plan to "remove the whole colored race of the slave states into Texas."
source: 102. N. Weyl and W. Marina, American Statesmen on Slavery and the Negro (1971), pp. 228-229. Source cited: L. E. Chittenden, Recollections of Abraham Lincoln.; Lincoln apparently also gave consideration to setting aside Florida as a black asylum or reservation. See: Paul J. Scheips, "Lincoln ... , " The Journal of Negro History, Vol. 37, No. 4 (October 1952), p. 419.
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Nobody is "all bad", but I don't see much good coming out of his attempt to frame white Southerners, whom he identifies in "Born Fighting" with the Scots-Irish without much if any statistical evidence, as a disenfranchised victim group that's been done wrong by the rest of the country despite it's having done the lion's share of the fighting for it. That's why he thinks they should align in Democratic Party victim-hood with blacks.
Webb is a socialist and a cultural leftist... Look at his policy stances, not whatever ethnic group he identifies with. The guy supports every form of abortion, is against protecting traditional marriage, supports affirmative action, is against education vouchers, against drilling in ANWAR, is against social security reform and believes in the "path to citizenship" i.e. amnesty for illegal aliens. He thinks both the taxes on "the rich" and the minimum wage are too low and worst of all, that the federal government must do something about both/
Is Webb all bad? No, he is a decorated veteran. I understand that many Freepers believe the South had the right of things in the Civil War and that Webb reiterates that belief in this speech while paying his respects to the Confederate war dead, but as important as understanding and remembering the past is, doing so pales next to the importance of the stands someone takes regarding the present.
My ancestors were among the people who helped found many American communities. Some were among the "saints" and some were among the "strangers" on the Mayflower. My later immigrant ancestors brought more than just the trappings of their old cultures. Like my Mayflower ancestors, they helped found communities & those communities had very little English flavoring.
They came to the "land of opportunity" to help build the "American dream". None of them came with their hand out, looking to make demands on those who came before them.
Every single one of my ancestors were in America before the beginning of the twentieth century, before Ellis Island opened its doors, before the first American immigration law was passed. If they had been as protectionist as some I've seen around here, I'd still be here. I wonder how many of the protectionists would be.
Our nation was not built by the best of other nations across the world, though there were some of those among the mix. We took from among the castoffs, the unwanted dregs, people who could only see one direction, up. Multiculturalism tells people to stop looking up, to instead look back, to avoid the "American dream", because it takes a lot of work to realize it.
A tomato soup is too homogeneous, derived from too much nationalization of too many things.
Well said!
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