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A Sad Scene: Miles Douglas on the jealousy, ageism, and sexual intrigue of gay men's lives.
CatholicEducation. org (Spectator UK) ^ | March 12, 2006 | Miles Douglas

Posted on 11/20/2006 2:50:43 PM PST by madprof98

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The vicissitudes of gay life, notably the culture of promiscuity, are alternately ascribed to the legacy of oppression (and therefore not our fault) and celebrated as a form of 'liberation'.

This piece, originally published in The Spectator, is reprinted in the new issue of First Things. There Father Richard John Neuhaus comments on its insights (like the point above) while questioning the extent to which the author really wants to be freed from the gay culture he so rightly deplores.

1 posted on 11/20/2006 2:50:45 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98

....because it's all about me, me, me, me,

poor baby

;(


2 posted on 11/20/2006 2:56:19 PM PST by sodpoodle (I have no idea how I got here - but I like it and I plan to stay.)
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To: madprof98

Hedonism. That is the be-all and end-all for these people. This article makes me sad for these people. While I go home tonight to my loving wife and sweet toddler, they will go home to despair and empty self-indulgence.


3 posted on 11/20/2006 2:59:50 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: little jeremiah

Ping


4 posted on 11/20/2006 3:09:20 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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Unlike the ethnic and religious minorities with which we compare ourselves,

Well, there's the problem........homosexuality is a behavior, not a race or religion.
5 posted on 11/20/2006 3:11:15 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: dinoparty
They really think they can fake it with their partner and some unnatural conception... like they will ever achieve what normal couples have.

You and your wife had to work for what you have together. Gays are permanently stuck in girls-are-icky mode. They just can't be bothered to mature a little and attract a woman.

6 posted on 11/20/2006 3:13:29 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: madprof98

Homosexuals now have most everything they claimed they needed to be "free" yet are still miserable.

This is because of the inherently immoral and sinful nature of their behaviour.
The LORD God tells us what is right and wrong not politicians, lobby groups or "human rights" lawyers. Hence no matter how much they have law changed in their favour, they will remain miserable in sin.

Best for them to repent and change.

http://www.pfox.org/

http://www.exodus-international.org/


7 posted on 11/20/2006 3:22:30 PM PST by protest1
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To: madprof98

One of the problems with identity politics is that what is good for the group doesn't necessarily benefit the individuals in the group.

While gays enjoy public acceptance as never before, individuals are still miserable because the relationships they have forged are not natural....and somewhere very deep inside, they know it.


8 posted on 11/20/2006 3:23:14 PM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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I had a friend that was gay some years ago.

He was obviously unhappy with his life.
We worked at the same company, had an occasional drink together, and generally had many of the same friends at work.

He came on to me one night. I told him in a friendly, but firm, manner that I was flattered but that I was a happily married man, in love with my wife, and couldn't/wouldn't entertain any notions of that manner.
We remained on speaking terms, if not friends, until I left that company and moved to a different job.

Years later I was talking to someone that used to be a mutual friend of ours and lo and behold my, flamingly, gay friend had a girlfriend!
I asked what had happened to bring THAT about.
Our friend said that she had asked him that and he said it all started with me. When he had come on to me and I said what I did it started him thinking. He had never had a commitment of that type with another man. He had totally expected me to let him give me a BJ and go happily, I guess, on his way. When I refused and explained why he started having second thoughts about his lifestyle.

Don't tell me homosexuals are born that way. It's a choice.

9 posted on 11/20/2006 3:25:16 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Hi Just another Joe-

Your work acquaintance won't stay straight. It is highly unlikely that he will be able to resist sweaty gay temptation someday.

~ Blue Jays ~

10 posted on 11/20/2006 3:30:09 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: madprof98
From the article:
gay this ... gay that... gay lifestyle .... gay something else.

These people are defining themselves by what they stick up their a$$es .... no wonder they are miserable.

11 posted on 11/20/2006 3:37:20 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Blue Jays; Just another Joe

Sorry to break this to you Blue Jays, but the number of ex-gays is increasing everyday. Having gotten past their self-destructive same-sex attraction disorder, they find a much more complete life for themselves as God and nature intended.


12 posted on 11/20/2006 3:39:51 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: madprof98

They will never be happy because they will never face the facts and be honest about what it is to be "gay"- and the fact is it is unnatural and a perversion. To maintain it, one must constantly and consistently lie.


13 posted on 11/20/2006 3:39:58 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: protest1

Gays can convince their mind and heart that their lifestyle is normal, but they will never convince their soul.


14 posted on 11/20/2006 3:41:34 PM PST by SweetCaroline (***Your own healing is the Greatest Message of Hope to others!***)
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To: FormerLib
Hi FormerLib-

Would you be comfortable with your beautiful daughter or niece marrying an "ex-gay" who previously frequented bathhouses for anonymous sex? Sorry, me neither.

~ Blue Jays ~

15 posted on 11/20/2006 3:44:29 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: dinoparty

They're human beings with souls. But their vile, nasty perversity is rightly abhored...


16 posted on 11/20/2006 3:53:21 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: madprof98

a man needs a woman to drive him nuts


17 posted on 11/20/2006 3:56:46 PM PST by woofie (creativity is destructive)
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To: madprof98

Interesting article. Lots of paralles in the hetero world.

Thanks for posting.


18 posted on 11/20/2006 3:58:43 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: madprof98

Interesting article.


19 posted on 11/20/2006 3:59:38 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Tall_Texan

"Identity politics" whoever's identity is being given political expression , is primarly about the political operatives who take it up as a cause, NOT about the overall happiness or fulfillment of the rank-and-file.
In the same way that the courts are largely about the lawyers and judges, and not YOU, and the "educational system" is about the teachers and organizational apparatus, and NOT the students.
One reason for this relentless push for gay marriage, same-sex families, etc. is because underlying all of these relationships is this very unhappiness, this felt "unnaturalness" that is described in this piece. It is as though by reaching for the brass ring of "tradition" through official certification and ceremony, everything will be made right. Well, once it's accomplished, if it ever is, there is no telling just what the statistics, over time, might turn out to be: perhaps the 40%-50% divorce rate that currently plagues heterosexual marriages?
On top of that, gays turn out to be their own worst enemies: those that just want to be left alone and live in peace, are ruthlessly OUTED by other gays only because they not been willing to "reveal themselves": they then get turned into fodder for the Gay Agenda. Mark Foley , creepy as he was , was targeted to be outed because he voted against important items of the gay agenda , and that was (probably wrongly) deemed to be "hypocritical". I must ask, isn't it possible that gay politicians could IN FACT be AGAINST gay marriage, for many different reasons, and on many different levels? WHY or HOW could that then be judged "hypocritical?"It is a sad state of affairs.


20 posted on 11/20/2006 4:10:07 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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