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A Sad Scene: Miles Douglas on the jealousy, ageism, and sexual intrigue of gay men's lives.
CatholicEducation. org (Spectator UK) ^ | March 12, 2006 | Miles Douglas

Posted on 11/20/2006 2:50:43 PM PST by madprof98

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To: FormerLib
Sorry to break this to you Blue Jays, but the number of ex-gays is increasing everyday. Having gotten past their self-destructive same-sex attraction disorder, they find a much more complete life for themselves as God and nature intended.

I like that decription, self-destructive same-sex attraction disorder. You nailed that one. And no, that was not a pun.....LOL
21 posted on 11/20/2006 4:39:01 PM PST by AJMaXx (ILU Roo.....!)
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To: Just another Joe

Great story and it's always nice to hear of someone making a change like that in life.

I am from the camp that people ARE born gay. My theory is that women under a particular kind of stress at a particular time of gestation causes changes in the hormonal makeup of the fetus/baby and causes homosexuality. Just my theory. But, I also look at it the same as, say, alcoholism. Most alcoholics claim this is genetic and/or a disease that they were born with the propensity to drink uncontrollably. But same w/ gays, IMO, you don't just say I was born this way therefore I drink myself into oblivion (although some do, many get sober--or repent). The same should be the lifestyle of gays. That they turn from this behavior and practice a life of celibacy or heterosexuality and not continue the behavior.

His article made alot of sense in that (even though he didn't directly say it) that it is completely unacceptable in the gay community to state you want to live a straight life. They go OFF on the Exodus group and anyone that talks of turning away or repenting from gay life.

Regardless, its a very sad life and he's right about the misery. I know several gays and they are all miserable. Every one of them. You cannot bond with the same sex like you do with the opposite sex. God didn't make us that way.


22 posted on 11/20/2006 4:54:03 PM PST by spacejunkie
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To: Blue Jays

If a man (or woman) realizes the error of their behavior and truly turns their life around are they to be scorned forever because they were once sleazy and promiscuous? I've known more than a few heterosexuals whose behavior was deplorable from a moral perspective. What about them? If you knew that a guy had once been a party animal but had since found God and was now living a good clean life, would they be acceptable?


23 posted on 11/20/2006 5:06:42 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Centurion2000

Bingo! You gotta wonder about people who define themselves in terms of their own sexuality. Superficial and narcissistic beyond belief.


24 posted on 11/20/2006 5:11:44 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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To: madprof98; AFA-Michigan; Agitate; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BabaOreally; Balke; BigFinn; ..
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25 posted on 11/20/2006 5:12:37 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: madprof98

Sidebar for the forum...another classic from "Catholic Education" that
I've posted before.

(WARNING!!! Contains graphic content; but presented in context)

Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity)
Rejected Homosexuality
by DENNIS PRAGER
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html


26 posted on 11/20/2006 5:18:13 PM PST by VOA
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To: visualops
Hi visualops-

The former party animal can use maturity to outgrow his childish behavior and is MUCH more likely not to return to that former lifestyle. Additionally, the former party animal isn't nearly as likely as a so-called "ex-gay" man to infect a cherished daughter or niece with a horrible disease that is sure to kill.

~ Blue Jays ~

27 posted on 11/20/2006 5:20:45 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: protest1
Homosexuals now have most everything they claimed they needed to be "free" yet are still miserable.

The core of the problem for homosexuals is a mind-numbingly simple paradox, even though I would expect them to deny it vehemently. All they want is to have sex with a real man, but are forever doomed to settling for GBTs.

28 posted on 11/20/2006 5:28:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: spacejunkie

"My theory is that women under a particular kind of stress at a particular time of gestation causes changes in the hormonal makeup of the fetus/baby and causes homosexuality."

I prefer scientific statistics. For example, most practicing homosexual women have had an abortion before engaging in same sex behavior. Post traumatic stress disorders are probably what lead women to a defensive same sex attraction. Defensive, because to kill one's own child is a terrible tragedy. Many homosexual women don't stop being attracted to men (and are statistically more promiscuous), and I seriously doubt that "born gay" has much to do with such behavior. The human heart is always hungering for True Love. We will never find rest until we rest with God.


29 posted on 11/20/2006 5:28:38 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: AJMaXx; FormerLib
same-sex attraction disorder

SSAD.

Perfect!

30 posted on 11/20/2006 5:37:48 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Blue Jays

Well, they have tests for diseases, and one is quite susceptible to STD's including AIDs if you are a promiscuous heterosexual. Sometimes immaturity is the reason behind promiscuousness and/or immoral behavior, but not always. If anything, I would question the mores of someone who felt "party animal" behavior was just being "immature" or simply sowing wild oats before "growing up" as that implies an agreement with that sort of behavior being acceptable and/or excusable under certain circumstances.


31 posted on 11/20/2006 5:51:03 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: madprof98; wagglebee; scripter; EdReform; Blue Jays

Homosexuality, as with any obsession, is idolatry.

That is the source of the emptiness.


32 posted on 11/20/2006 6:21:00 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Just another Joe
I told him in a friendly, but firm, manner that I was flattered but that I was a happily married man, in love with my wife, and couldn't/wouldn't entertain any notions of that manner.

You told him you were flattered? Seriously? As a woman, I can't imagine the reaction most hetero men would have is "flattered".

33 posted on 11/20/2006 6:29:19 PM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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To: workerbee

BTT


34 posted on 11/20/2006 7:10:02 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: workerbee
You told him you were flattered? Seriously? As a woman, I can't imagine the reaction most hetero men would have is "flattered".

Have you ever heard the expression "gentleman" before?

It sounds to me like the polite response of a man considerate of and concerned about another person's feelings.
35 posted on 11/20/2006 7:52:42 PM PST by SoulMan
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To: Blue Jays
Your work acquaintance won't stay straight.

He has for 10 years now. He's now a born again christian, with a wife and 2 children.

I think he rethought his life.

36 posted on 11/20/2006 7:57:45 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: workerbee
You told him you were flattered? Seriously? As a woman, I can't imagine the reaction most hetero men would have is "flattered".

I would tell anyone that was sexually attracted to me that I was flattered, but just the same I would firmly refuse any offers.

37 posted on 11/20/2006 8:00:43 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: madprof98
While demanding equality, it stresses separateness...

Isn't this the First Commandment of liberalism?

The author has covered the homosexual facet of the left nicely.

Also, witness the collegiate mantra of "multiculturalism". American culture isn't worthy of all the others, so don't pollute yourselves by integrating with them.

Black, Republican and always deferred to in discussions of racial equality, Martin Luther King preached equality, not affirmative action. He called for all nationalities to live together in peace and harmony, not for white submission to Black Power.

And the eternal Champions of the Freedom of Speech, our illustrious news outlets and esteemed universities will literally react with violence and wartime treason in the face of speech and expression that disagrees with their progressive dogma.

The Left has become the very embodiment of hypocrisy.

38 posted on 11/20/2006 8:07:43 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Blue Jays; madprof98; wagglebee; scripter; EdReform; Just another Joe; little jeremiah; ...
Would you be comfortable with your beautiful daughter or niece marrying an "ex-gay" who previously frequented bathhouses for anonymous sex?

I have seen this argument before and I find it disingenuous and disturbing as well as a ridiculous oversimplification.

What is the point? That one can never change one's life for the better? Once a sinner always a sinner? There can be no compassion for others?

If you take away the possibility of change, if no one can have the hope of a better life, then we might as well say that the "Gay Agenda" wins. Why fight it? What is the moral good? We are condemning a behavior that people can't change. That is cruel and unjust in the extreme.

I'll say from my experience you can't make general rules about what will make a marriage work or know whether a man will prove himself a worthy husband beforehand.

Question: If your beautiful daughter/niece marries a hard-driving, hard rockin' heterosexual, how does she know that on the day when she is no longer physically beautiful (which inevitably comes), he won't go hunting' for other women? I think it's happened on more than one occasion.
39 posted on 11/20/2006 8:14:36 PM PST by SoulMan
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To: dinoparty

I will give an entire paycheck to the first telethon that is devoted to searching for a cure for homosexuality.

This is just a temporary thing, this 'normalizing' of what is clearly a disorder.

Somebody's going to do the math and figure out that this is curable.


40 posted on 11/20/2006 8:19:23 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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