Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 November 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 19 November 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, November 19th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens.-elect Jim Webb, D-Va., and Jon Tester, D-Mont.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; House Majority Leader-elect Steny Hoyer, D-Md.; NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Iraqi ambassador to the U.S. Samir Sumaidaie; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas; House Majority Whip-elect James Clyburn, D-S.C.; House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

[Morgan in Denver]

I hope you're right. One thing we know about Democrats is they continue to overplay whatever hand they have. This should be similar.

[OldFriend]

FNC has so many unbalanced loons on their shows, it's just not worth watching. Other than Brit doing commentary on the news everything esle is boring and predictable.

[snugs]

Full transcript of the speech Click here

Shame I cannot find a photo to go with it so will post an older one.

[aligncare]

Speak of bloviating. Bill O'Reilly and others will often have on Al 'shady' Sharpton to 'address the issues'--as if he matters. I suppose he's a good example of the kind of person the 'rats embrace.

Satellite out for several minuets now...maybe weather related.

[rodguy911]

Yeah I agree, we may have an even colder time ahead of us as temps drop into the danger zone for us--the mid 50's next week. Uh oh,glad I have a fishing jacket.

[anita]

I would advise Geraldo to stick with his criminality reporting. He was on O'Reilly suggesting to President to choose Gen.Shinseki for Sec.Def. O'Reilly is doing 10% right 90% wrong on issues.

[rodguy911]

Exactly, it took them 6 years to lie their way into office but it finally worked. Now it's our job to untangle the web of deceit over the next few years.

[snugs]

He mentioned it one day last week on Special Report as well.

[Phsstpok]

Webb could be very interesting in the Senate. He's got a long and very conservative track record, except for his position on Iraq, as I understand it. Abortion, guns, etc.

Webb is not a conservative, if you actually look at his views.  Yes, he's 100% hard line on the second amendment, but he's apparently a racist, anti-semite, neo isolationist anti-globalist and closet socialist all rolled into one. 

Here's an Andrew Sullivan column ( Virginia's Jim Webb Joins Strange Bedfellows: Andrew Ferguson (Bloomberg - Nov 14, 2006)) I linked to yesterday in the preview thread.  This excerpt is an "uh oh" for me:

Webb, on the other hand, is better described as a Buchanan Democrat -- as in Pat Buchanan. Webb's brand of populism is hostile to free trade, antagonistic to corporate America, suspicious of the market and horrified by the effects of globalization, which has showered rewards on the elites while leaving behind the people who, as a populist, he means to represent. 

And then there's this from another article ( Jim Webb: 'Pretty Good Feel' for Senate Work (NewsMax.com, FL - Nov 14, 2006)) about Webb's first meeting with Dingy Harry and other senators:

In a brief conversation with reporters, Reid picked up on one of Webb's top campaign issues - the need for a negotiated settlement to the Iraq war that includes diplomacy with nations on less-than-friendly terms with the United States, such as Iran and Syria.

Reid specifically mentioned Syria and Egypt in reaching a diplomatic solution.

"It's their problem more than it's our problem," Reid said.  

Yep, that's the ticket.  Let's trust the Iranians, Syrians and Egyptians.  Uh huh.  Oh, Israel?  Better load the nukes onto those F16s quick, fellas.  You're lives are about to be bargained away by the goyim... again.

And this piece (Jim Webb's War (New York Sun, NY - Nov 13, 2006)) gives a good outline of Webb's race based view of the world as described in his latest nonfiction book Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America:

Near the end of "Born Fighting," Mr. Webb provides a clue of where his intentions for the Scots-Irish might lie. "And thus the final question in this age of diversity and political correctness is whether they can learn to play the modern game of group politics. For if they do, they hold the future direction of America in their collective hands. "The era of Democratic dominance on Capitol Hill was forged on an alliance between Southern conservatives and Northern urban ethnics. A good measure of how badly the Democrats want to create a new and long-lasting national majority — and not just for the most recent election — will be the extent to which they embrace Mr. Webb's Scots-Irish as another item on the buffet of identity politics.

In this book he also apparently praises Nathan Bedford Forrest's military prowess while ignoring the Fort Pillow massacre or good ol' Nathan's founding of the KKK.  He explicitly defends the Stars and Bars Confederate battle flag and those who fly it, but even given that his campaign had the chutzpah to attack Allen for possibly having Confederate sympathies.  The junior senator from Virginia will apparently find common cause with the senior senator from West Virginia, sheets Byrd.

But the thing about Webb that truly scares me is what he considers his number one mission, correcting the inequality of income distribution.  Yep.  He wants to take from the "rich" (apparently anyone who owns stock) and give to the poor so that we're all happy comrades.(Class Struggle (Wall Street Journal Op-Ed, Nov 15, 2006)) .  One astonishing charge Mr. Webb levels to get our collectivist blood boiling is

"(t)he top 1% now takes in an astounding 16% of national income, up from 8% in 1980. The tax codes protect them, just as they protect corporate America, through a vast system of loopholes."

He conveniently leaves out the part where the top 1% pay 29% of income taxes.  Sounds like their taxes need to come down just a tad to me.  But not according to Jim Webb.

It sounds like he thinks it's time to eat the rich, not just soak them.

Jim Webb needs lots of watching.  He could be "interesting," as you say, or he could be amusing in a clownish sort of way.  Or he could be the most dangerous office holder in a generation.  Think Huey Long.  If you don't know who Huey Long is read the novel based on his life, All the Kings Men, or watch the movie..  Don't bother with the new Sean Penn version but go straight to the 1949 version with Broderick Crawford.  Long was the same kind of demagogue that Hitler and Stalin were.  Could Webb represent the return of that sort of "dear leader" to our shores?

[jubail]

"Did you watch the Mancow special?

I thought he stunk it up."

I watched about 5 minutes but it was so boring and silly. Why does FNC air this guy. He used to be a regular on Fox and Friends.

[snugs]

Sorry I was a bit late freeping you the links - I have had serious graphics issues this week which meant I did not get round to posting them on last week's threat until yesterday.

A fellow freeper has helped me get round my problems but unfortunately they are still not solved.

[anita]

I agree. The host & panelists need a complete re-do.

[anita]

Thanks snugs.

[rodguy911]

Spanking pelosi with a small swatter over nominating murtha is a safe bet and slick politics for the DMB/NYT. It gives them a fall back position for when they take her side on the big issues that are all designed to destroy the Republican party.
By spanking pelosi on a mostly insignificant-issue it allows them a look back and to be able to say months from now "see-we always take both sides"--slick if not a little disingenuous.

[samantha]

That is good to hear about the Israeli ingenuity, and how we can benefit from it very soon. It sure would shut the mouths(albeit temporarilry) of the "don't drill in ANWR toads", it would make them "don't dig in Pristine Montana toads", and they would keep it up no matter what the new breakthroughs are. They want everyone (except themselves) to be on Bikes, and to be walking everywhere.

[altura]

You don't think Newt is cute???

[Mo1]

When asked about the Novak article ... Webb says he doesn't even know Gates (the new SOD)

[lawdude]

"Turner had the balls to spit on our faces the day after the election with a subliminal slapdown during a movie break..."

What 'subliminal slapdown'? Some details for those of us that didn't see it.

[rodguy911]

You may be right but there also exists the possibility that they(the rats) know they lied their way in this time and really only got in because we dropped the ball and six years of media drumbeat brainwashed many stupid voters.

To count on all that propelling them to victory again might be a stretch for some.They may want to get to their nirvana now before they are thrown out on their collective asses again. And their goal has always been, IMHO, to at least try and impeach GWB.I guess time will tell.

[shrinkermd]

If Senator Kerry lacks "contentional" intelligence (see post 211) then Newt Gingrich suffers from "academic overreach."

Newt was and is an academic. He believes in reason, rationality and "thinking" one's way through things. All lauded in academia and in the MSM but utterly insufficient as a means of leadership.

The very essence of being a conservative is to conserve the past, to recognize the past generations efforts and conclusions and to extrapolate our lives to the future by parenting and direct tuition of the young. A real leader of a cause understands that he is leading an amorphous, long standing effort that has much wisdom based on past experience and efforts. Changes are necessary but they are not "thought up in the academic sense" but in the every day life sense.

The last academic we had as President was Woodrow Wilson. He believed he could think through foreign policy matters regardless of national interests and experience. The outcome was the 14 Points, beautiful thoughts and, eventually, Adolph Hitler.

President Eisenhower or Truman behaviors and experience, respectively, would be a better approach for the major parties to base their decision on.