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What are the four U.S. Carriers doing in the Gulf?
Al Jazeera ^ | November 18 | Staff

Posted on 11/18/2006 10:15:36 AM PST by PghBaldy

As the American President George W. Bush steps up threatening rhetoric against Iran to force it suspend its nuclear program, calling for worldwide isolation of Tehran until it “gives up its nuclear ambitions,” experts predict that the coming days would see a much violent step by Washington against the Islamic Republic.

What asserts the experts’ fears is the fact that on October 31, two nuclear-powered carriers, the USS Eisenhower and USS Enterprise, arrived in Bahrain, accompanied by their carrier strike groups. And on November 9th, the USS Iwo Jima, and the USS Boxer also arrived.

Is President Bush up to something? Asked Rense.com

On October 11, American officials announced that the U.S., Bahrain and other states will hold their first naval exercise in the Gulf to practice interdicting ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

The exercises, organized under the U.S.-led 66-member Proliferation Security Initiative and the first to be based in the Gulf near Bahrain, across from Iran, came as Washington and the European Union member states are pushing for imposing sanctions including possible interdiction of ships on North Korea, following its announcement of carrying out nuclear test, and on Iran, which the U.S., backed by Israel and the EU, claims is preparing to produce nuclear weapons.

Iran considers Washington- sponsored war games in the Persian Gulf, off the Iranian coastline as a provocation aimed at creating a situation of direct confrontation between the U.S. and Iranian naval forces in the Persian Gulf, although a senior U.S. official insisted that the exercise is not aimed specifically at Iran.

About the exercises, which experts say reinforces a U.S. strategy aimed at strengthening America’s ties with the Gulf states, which Tehran and Washington are engaged in a fierce competition to win influence over, the official, speaking on condition of anonymity claimed:

"It’s an effort to bring a lot of Gulf states together to demonstrate resolve and readiness to act against proliferation."

"Reports say the U.S.-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

Iran's official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious. The Iranian foreign ministry official said the U.S.-led exercises were not in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are aimed at fomenting crises, he said." (quoted in BBC, 23 October 2006)

But some analysts reject the idea that the U.S. plans for another war while its army is struggling in Iraq after the situation there worsened beyond the Bush administration and its war allies’ expectations.

The Proliferation Security Initiative is a global initiative, launched in 2003 under President George W. Bush with the aim of stopping shipments of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), includes a group of countries willing to share intelligence information to combat proliferation of WMD, including through military exercises.

North Korea has already announced having nuclear weapons capability, but Iran rejects the United States and other major powers’ accusations that its developing a nuclear weapons program, insisting its nuclear program is solely aimed at peaceful purposes, including power generation.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombirannow; iran; israel; persiangulf; wot
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To: M Kehoe
"...Thanks for the ping. Where are you anyway?..."

Here in the warm South. As things are happenning, I might not get up North for the Company Christmas party.

Two Carrier Battle Groups and two Amphib Battle Groups! Jeez, that's a lotta firepower to stick in the Arabian Sea!

I suspect they'll be using it soon. Stay well armed and safe, pal...............FRegards

181 posted on 11/18/2006 10:09:28 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: PghBaldy
Just seeing the world.

"I joined the Navy to see the world but what did I see I saw the sea."

182 posted on 11/18/2006 10:13:34 PM PST by right way right
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To: darkwing104

You forgot that we will be bringing the ZOT! down on the Iranians too!


183 posted on 11/18/2006 10:26:13 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: river rat

I agree.

Too much PC influence from the pantywaists whining about what Europe and Kofi Annan will think of us.


184 posted on 11/19/2006 2:45:23 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: El Gato

Why would we need six carrier groups to obliterate Iran? I should think two would suffice.


185 posted on 11/19/2006 2:48:22 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Valin

Actually, it was spot-on.


186 posted on 11/19/2006 2:49:06 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: El Gato

The congressional GOP isn't going to lift a finger to help Bush over the next two months. A majority of them are a bunch of spineless losers, most especially the senate.


187 posted on 11/19/2006 2:51:28 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Agreed.


188 posted on 11/19/2006 3:27:03 AM PST by kalee (II have taken the pledge that I will no longer read homeschooling or breastfeeding threads on FR.)
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To: FastCoyote
I got into this on another thread. With the Osprey coming and the VTOL fighter, it's getting hard to distinguish the two. And the Iwo and Boxer displace around 44,000 tons, so they are small carrier size.

In current configuration and plussed up on AV-8Bs, they can at best be considered equivalent to British carriers. All said and done, AV-8Bs don't bring much to penetration strike capabilities.

Now when the JSF shows up its start to be a different ball game. They will then add more substantially to a strike capability, but they will still be limited by lack of supporting elements if operating autonomously.

Finally, I didn't say they weren't carriers. I said that WE don't consider them carriers. In comparison to other carriers of the world, they stack up fairly well.

189 posted on 11/19/2006 5:09:11 AM PST by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: PghBaldy; melancholy
What a magnificent sight! Thank you for the thread!!!

Nancee

190 posted on 11/19/2006 5:13:36 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: moose2004

BUMP!!!


191 posted on 11/19/2006 5:14:10 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: advance_copy
"Getting ready to pour some whoopass on Amadinayabbadabbadoo."

LOL

I hope so!!

Nancee

192 posted on 11/19/2006 5:16:08 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: darkwing104
"...Deal with it."

AMEN!!!

193 posted on 11/19/2006 5:17:32 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"...In a related question, 'What's that big,......?"

LOL LOL LOL

Nancee

194 posted on 11/19/2006 5:18:56 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: Kirkwood
"A: Anything they want to do."

AMEN!!

Nancee

195 posted on 11/19/2006 5:20:26 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: Logic n' Reason
What are 4 carriers doing in the Gulf?

Maybe lots of waterskiing and wake jumping....

196 posted on 11/19/2006 5:21:04 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I was just thirteen, you might say I was a musical proverbial knee-high...)
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To: Bernard
I agree with that, but the question is, do we want Israel actually in hostilities, or should we handle it?

ANY hostilities in the ME are going to include Israel, one way or the other..........

197 posted on 11/19/2006 5:21:05 AM PST by ALASKA (IT'S NOT ROCKET SURGERY......................Don't just do something, STAND THERE!!!)
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To: george76
"Can you get the U.N. to debate for a couple more weeks?"

W-O-N-D-E-R-F-U-L!!!

Nancee

198 posted on 11/19/2006 5:22:50 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: BurbankKarl
"...They are so stupid."

They are!

Nancee

199 posted on 11/19/2006 5:24:52 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I saw the same Glenn Beck program, and I couldn't agree more with your strategy!


200 posted on 11/19/2006 5:26:06 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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