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YouTube - UCLA Student Tasered by Police in Library (Warning - Some Profanity in Video)
YouTube ^ | November 16, 2006 | You Tube

Posted on 11/16/2006 8:23:50 PM PST by Arec Barrwin

Mostafa Tabatabainejad, 23, was tasered after he refused to provide ID and would not leave. He starts screaming

"DON"T TOUCH ME! Don't touch-zzzzzzzzzzzt!" "Here's your Patriot Act! Here's your-zzzzzzzzzzt!"

Lesson #1: When the police ask you to do something, do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g7zlJx9u2E


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: electrifying; leosgonewild; shocking; studyingwhilemustafa; tabatabainejad; ucla; wheresyourallahnow
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To: Arec Barrwin
Mostafa Tabatabainejad, 23,

AKA: Americas newest multi-millionaire (after the litigation)

161 posted on 11/17/2006 10:22:43 AM PST by lowbridge (Got my own set of keys to the Rovian Weather and Earthquake Machine.)
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To: beckett
These officers better hope they have some friendly witnesses in the crowd

Officers having friendly witnesses on a college campus?

Aint gonna happen.

162 posted on 11/17/2006 10:25:28 AM PST by lowbridge (Got my own set of keys to the Rovian Weather and Earthquake Machine.)
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To: maineman

They didn't taser him because he's Muslim, they tasered him because most campus police are a-holes.


163 posted on 11/17/2006 10:36:08 AM PST by Saveaplant_Eatavegan
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To: beckett
Hi Beckett, I did a quick Google to try to find a use of force policy. The following chart comes from Portland State University (it came up first). As you can see, a taser, and other methods are authorized for static resistance. If the UCLA officers are under a similar policy, then they were in the right. The chart comes from http://www.cpso.pdx.edu/html/forcepolicy.htm.
164 posted on 11/17/2006 10:45:39 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Valpal1
Probe (paralyzing) and drive-stun

So you're saying it's lawful for the police to "drive-stun" a subject in handcuffs? Not so! That's no different from saying it's lawful for a subject to be billyclubbed while in handcuffs.

Once a subject is in handcuffs the police have no right whasoever to inflict any pain on him. They need to transport him where they need him to go -- that's it. And in this case all they needed to do was drag him off library premises and into a patrol car.

To contend, as you do, that they're justified in tasering him because they didn't want to bang up his knees by dragging him is more patent nonsense. That's like saying it's ok to billyclub him in the head because you want to protect his shins. You're basically saying that because the taser leaves no visible mark in "drive-stun" mode, the police can sneak in a little pain if they're in the mood on a subject who's already in handcuffs.

Again, the taser is a use of force designed to immobilize a subject before he's handcuffed. Once he's in custody the police have no legal right to inflict any pain at all.

165 posted on 11/17/2006 10:51:17 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Moonman62

Moonman, the kid was in handcuffs! In custody! Your chart does not apply to him at all!


166 posted on 11/17/2006 10:53:49 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett

The chart applies. A person in handcuffs can still resist, actively or statically. Have a longer look at the chart.


167 posted on 11/17/2006 10:56:54 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Your misreading your own chart....nowhere does it apply to a subject already in custody.


168 posted on 11/17/2006 10:59:11 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett

I suggest you contact your local law enforcement and find out their policy. Different jurisdictions have different rules.

Drive-stunning a hand-cuffed suspect who is refusing to walk may in fact be SOP in your jurisdiction. Dragging/carrying a concious suspect who may lash out at any time may be considered at higher risk of injury to the officers and the suspect than continued aplication of pain compliance until the suspect walks under his own power voluntarily.

Tasers are no longer just for immobilization purposes. Police practices evolve with the technology. Somewhere, there are guys in green shades crunching the numbers on the actuarial tables, the disability claims, the lawsuit payouts, etc. Their verdict is to adopt procedures that minimize physical contact between officers and suspects. Stune their beeber is replacing the baton.


169 posted on 11/17/2006 11:05:16 AM PST by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: beckett

Now you're making up something not even on the chart. A person in cuffs can still resist.


170 posted on 11/17/2006 11:09:06 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Sorry my friend....you are misreading your own chart. When a person has been placed in handcuffs, he's considered in custody. The chart you've displayed, in each and every line of the chart, is referring to individuals who are not in handcuffs and are not in custody.

The purpose of the chart is to guide officers in how to place a subject in custody, not what to do with him after he's there.

171 posted on 11/17/2006 11:13:54 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Francis McClobber

Lick much boots lately? How bout I tase you a few times and command you to get up?


172 posted on 11/17/2006 11:14:53 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: beckett

Kindly point out where you see that.


173 posted on 11/17/2006 11:15:31 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

If my kid was a stalinist moonbat who'd been zapped by campus PD, I'd get to his school asap and taser his sorry ass again myself!

Might even soak him with a bucket of water first, to make the experience even more 'interesting' for him.


174 posted on 11/17/2006 11:16:20 AM PST by TeddyCon
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To: Rokke
You know what I'd do in that case? I'd break out the video camera, let them in, and then start planning my early retirement as a result of winning civil suits for unlawful actions by the cops.

You had better have the video running when they knock on the door because unless you record the initial exchange, you can bet the cops will tell the jury that you voluntarily allowed them into your house, and there goes your retirement fund.

175 posted on 11/17/2006 11:19:50 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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176 posted on 11/17/2006 11:21:49 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Valpal1
Dragging/carrying a concious suspect who may lash out at any time may be considered at higher risk of injury to the officers

Where are you getting this stuff? It's absurd! The police carry hulking 200 lb men to patrol cars on a daily basis. That's an important part of their training. It has long been established that handcuffs constitute "in custody" for the very good reason that no matter how big and strong you are, if your hands are cuffed behind your back you can't effectively fight your way out of a paper bag, no matter how much you "lash out." If kicking becomes an issue, legs restraints can be applied.

This stuff is handled every day in every police department in the country. "Drive-stunning" a handcuffed subject is an excessive use of force, and if it's "SOP" in any department, the law needs to be changed in that jurisdiction to rectify an unconscionable escalation of police powers.

177 posted on 11/17/2006 11:24:48 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Amerigomag

There are several lessons to this episode. As a cop...after you taser a dude...you get the cuffs on and remove him immedately from the affected area. You don't invite an audience who watches and decides who is right or wrong. You also use the taser only when a threat is established...the kid wasn't cooperative...but certainly not a threat...and you could easily overpower him to use the cuffs.

My guess is that this act by the cops will create 1,000 students there to be anti-cop and request a taser experience...as silly as it sounds. In Alabama...we'd have pulled the bully-club out...whacked the guy twice...cuffed him and tossed into the drunk tank for 8 hours. But then...this wasn't Alabama.


178 posted on 11/17/2006 11:26:19 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Moonman62
Moonman62....The student was in cuffs. If the student refused to 'getup' then leg cuffs are placed on him. This will enable the THREE campus policemen to carry the young man to the squad car.

No excuse for this. Several eyewitnesses have come forward with their filmed evidence. Those campus policemen will be looking for new jobs very soon and the student will be given a large settlement.

179 posted on 11/17/2006 11:26:41 AM PST by maineman
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To: ElmoMobito

Watched the whole thing. Looks like Police incompetance to me. They took a simple trespassing event and turned it into a potential riot where their lives could have been threatened.


180 posted on 11/17/2006 11:31:15 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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