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The Republicans Really Won (CBS News: Dem victory all part of Rove's greater accountability scheme)
CBS News ^ | Nov. 15, 2006 | Lloyd Garver

Posted on 11/16/2006 9:14:22 AM PST by presidio9

Democrats stop celebrating, and Republicans, don't despair. I know the Democrats won the recent election on paper, but in the long run the Republicans just might be the big winners of Election 2006.

In fact, I think the Republicans set the whole thing up so the Democrats could fail over the next two years, which will bring about a big Republican presidential win in 2008.

What other explanation is there? I mean, do you think that Karl Rove and the rest of the Republican brain trust suddenly got stupid? I don't think so.

Iraq

Iraq looks like a no-win situation. And who knows this better than the current Administration? So, they're turning over the mess to the Democrats saying, "Here. If you think you're so smart, you fix it." And when the 2008 election comes around and we haven't gotten out of Iraq as easily as everyone hoped, who's going to be blamed: The Democratic majority.

Accountability And Revenge

Everyone is waiting to see how vigorously the Democrats will try to make the Republicans accountable for the mistakes that were made in dealing with Katrina and Iraq.

I guess the thinking goes like this: "If they could impeach President Clinton because he lied about his sexual exploits, shouldn't the Republicans be held accountable for lying (or at best, being mistaken or incompetent) about things that led to Americans losing their homes or their lives?"

I follow the logic, but this could be a trap set by the Republicans. If there are too many committees, too many accusations, and too many subpoenas, there is bound to be a public backlash. If Republicans are blamed for everything from the war in Iraq, to global warming, to the popularity of "Dancing With The Stars," Democrats will look like sore winners.

If the Democrats investigate other things — corruption and general sleaziness — they risk turning up evidence against themselves as well. On the other hand, if they don't try to put a stop to all the greed and sleaze in Congress, those who voted for them will feel betrayed. Is this another no-win situation engineered by the Republicans?

The Rumsfeld Factor

When I first heard that President Bush was firing — I mean, "accepting the resignation of" — Secretary Rumsfeld, I thought this meant the President was resigning, too. After all, a week before the election, President Bush assured us that Secretary Rumsfeld would continue in his position for as long as Bush was President. But people were so happy to see Rumsfeld go, that nobody made that big of a deal about the President's little fib.

Bush wanted to get rid of Rumsfeld for quite a while, but he couldn't just fire him after making so many statements supporting him. But after the election, the president could say that he was responding to the electorate since "the people have spoken." Score a big one for the Republicans.

Bringing In Daddy's Guys

And who did the president name as Rumsfeld's replacement? Robert Gates, the guy who was the head of the CIA during the first President Bush's administration. And who was brought in to help with Iraq policy? James A. Baker III, a good friend of President Bush I and his Secretary of State.

Baker last surfaced during the Florida recount in 2000, representing the Republican interests. If he could help pull off that victory, maybe some of his mojo can help end the war in Iraq. This might even be easier than 2000 — he won't have to worry about annoying things like election laws and "obstructionist" Supreme Court justices.

Other friends and associates of the elder Bush will be helping out, too. But I don't think this is just a case of a father bailing out a son. I think this is all part of a calculated grand scheme by the Grand Old Party to do whatever's necessary to keep the White House in 2008.

So, who do they plan on running for President in 2008? Let's see. Who's comfortable with all these friends and advisors of the first George Bush? Who has experience in waging war against Iraq? And who could become president without saying one negative word about the current president? There's only one man who fits this bill. That's right — George Herbert Walker Bush.

Why not? The President's dad served only one term, so constitutionally he's still eligible. And do you honestly think this scenario is any more far-fetched than some of the things we're going to see in politics over the next two years?


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KEYWORDS: clymers; fakebutaccurate; hellopresidentcheney; idiotsinmedia; rymb; seebsnews; wtfk
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To: presidio9
There's only one man who fits this bill. That's right — George Herbert Walker Bush.

Clearly, this article is satire.

41 posted on 11/16/2006 9:31:51 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: SDGOP
That's pretty disgusting, but I do like the design of the wall behind him.
42 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:17 AM PST by jdm
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To: presidio9

Yes, he is. To think they actually would think something like that is just plain nuts! I like the fact they are going to worry that this is a Rove plot, though.


43 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:27 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: My2Cents
My take was that the author employed exaggerations that he felt were humorous, but that he generally believes the sentiment behind them. No, I don't think he's serious about Pappa Bush, but I do get the sense that some on the left are afraid that this victory could be phyrric.
44 posted on 11/16/2006 9:35:36 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Typical liberal analysis. Winning=losing.

When they lose, they spin it as a win. At least they are being consistent here in their stupidity.


45 posted on 11/16/2006 9:37:41 AM PST by joonbug
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To: presidio9
"What other explanation is there? I mean, do you think that Karl Rove and the rest of the Republican brain trust suddenly got stupid? I don't think so."

I think they were already somewhat stupid...though closer to naive.

The current executive administration views the electorate more as "stockholders" than citizens. This has certainly come back to bite them.

46 posted on 11/16/2006 9:37:44 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: presidio9
This might even be easier than 2000 — he won't have to worry about annoying things like election laws and "obstructionist" Supreme Court justices.

Delusional nitwit. It was the Gore campaign that tried to run roughshod over Florida election laws, and the Florida Supreme Court which was making things up as they went.

47 posted on 11/16/2006 9:39:20 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: presidio9

Maybe we should lose every election so the lesson REALLY gets learned.


48 posted on 11/16/2006 9:40:21 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Big winners of election 2006: Democrats, terrorists, MSM, Hollywood, anti-war protestors, etc.)
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To: presidio9

This is a joke. Right?? LOL


49 posted on 11/16/2006 9:40:35 AM PST by USArmySpouse
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To: bondjamesbond
We got our butts kicked, and we should not deny that simple fact.

If "WE" means republicans, okay. If "WE" means conservatives, I might not agree with you. Many of the democrats that were elected were more conservative than the republicans they were running against. For example, just today, Murtha was thrown to the curb.

50 posted on 11/16/2006 9:40:51 AM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: beckysueb

BTW, do you know any Republicans who like McCain? I sure don't. All of the buzz about him seems to come from the clown car media, and all of the good news polls are of likely voters, instead of registered Republicans. He will lose his primaries again. So will Rudy probably.


51 posted on 11/16/2006 9:41:33 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Something about the election plays at the back of my mind, though. The whole thing is very strange. The fact that the dems didn't lose a single seat, the fact that the Repubs lost almost every single one. I did wonder if Bush was maybe enjoying their gloating a little bit. Like he was saying ok loudmouths, lets see you take the heat for a little while. But he knows he still has enough control to rein them in if need be.


52 posted on 11/16/2006 9:41:55 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: presidio9

This guy is as unserious as the Democrats.


53 posted on 11/16/2006 9:42:10 AM PST by bethtopaz
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To: presidio9

I thought "Moral Victories" were a Democrat thing.


54 posted on 11/16/2006 9:42:18 AM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: presidio9; All

To quote myself from another thread last night regarding Rove:

"... Maybe it'll come out much later that Rove orchestrated a plan for the GOP to take a dive. Two years of Democratic control, and 2008 turns into a landslide and the death knell for the Dem/Libs!

I belieeeeeve!"


55 posted on 11/16/2006 9:42:59 AM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: My2Cents

Ok..sooooo,Roves brilliant plan was to lose the elections
so that the Dems would come out looking like idiots ?
If that's true,perhaps we need to dumb down a little.
We're outsmarting ourselves.


56 posted on 11/16/2006 9:43:25 AM PST by dbrew2u
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To: presidio9
What other explanation is there? I mean, do you think that Karl Rove and the rest of the Republican brain trust suddenly got stupid? I don't think so.

No, they didn't get stupid. Karl's magic hurricane machine was malfunctioning, so he didn't kill off enough black voters in time for the election.

Don't worry, he's working on that, and by 2008 it will be enhanced to not only generate hurricanes that will attack women and monorities, but to produce earthquakes along the San Andreas Fault to send California sliding into the sea, and week-long power outages in the northeastern states.

Rove surmised that this technical failure was cause by the fact that the weather machine was built by union labor on a Friday before a long weekend.

Never attribute a conspiracy to what may have just been a tech problem.

57 posted on 11/16/2006 9:43:51 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Go Gordon

If you think the sale has been closed and Americans will vote for conservatives, no matter what we do, you're deceiving youself. We have a lot of work to do if conservative principles are going to carry the day in 2008.

The nice thing about this kind of work is that if you win by one vote, that's good. If you win by a lot of votes, that's better. It really makes no sense to do only a little bit, even if you think you're ahead.


58 posted on 11/16/2006 9:44:41 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Does it have to be McCain or Giuliani? Are we that pathetic?)
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To: presidio9
There's only one man who fits this bill. That's right — George Herbert Walker Bush.

Actually, the VRWC is going to dust off Ross Perot and run him as the Republican candidate in '08. The Master Plan is to coordinate the Rovian Weather MachineTM with the Perot Voodoo StickTM and crush the Dems once and for all.

It's all true. Art Bell had a caller on last week who heard whispering voices from the Shadow Dimension that told him the whole scheme. The Dems are scrood.
59 posted on 11/16/2006 9:45:12 AM PST by Thrusher ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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To: presidio9

Not a one! I have not heard a single person come out in support of McCrazy. This is totally media driven. I think they want McCain against Hillary and they are trying to minipulate the minds of the people into voting for McCain in the primarys. They know he hasn't got a snowballs chance to beat Hillary. dems will register as Repubs and vote for him in the primarys, too.


60 posted on 11/16/2006 9:46:34 AM PST by beckysueb
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