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Grad Student | Nov 15, 2006 | Grad Student

Posted on 11/15/2006 7:03:11 PM PST by PhiKapMom

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To: nopardons

Huge waste of time and money these days unfortunately.

Fortunately, I come from a decade where indoctrinating process wasn't quite so bad, or hadn't yet been picked up here yet.


21 posted on 11/15/2006 7:33:48 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: PhiKapMom
Clinton doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself .. much less the children of our future and the schools

Heck .. even that aids foundation is all about him, IMO ..

Most everyone seems to have forgotten about all the tainted blood from the Arkansas prisons that he ok'd when he was Governor and how it cause the deaths a lot people .. and thousands of others to become sick

Everyone thinks he is a hero now because of his Aids Foundation

22 posted on 11/15/2006 7:34:18 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: nopardons

I don't see how they got high enough scores on their ACT to be admitted as they have a writing portion now.


23 posted on 11/15/2006 7:34:43 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

This History teacher of mine was an Army Sargeant. Hell, some days he'd show up in his fatigues and scuffed combat boots.


24 posted on 11/15/2006 7:34:50 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Mo1

Every time I see him I think of me, me, me!

Whatever happened on that tainted blood scandal?


25 posted on 11/15/2006 7:35:53 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

He might have been crazy, but he was probably one of the coolest teachers I had back then. Every Friday he'd organize softball games in the spring. School basically ended after lunch as the rest of the high school class teachers also either participated or watched. Friday afternoons were cool.


26 posted on 11/15/2006 7:37:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

One of the football coaches was also a Marine and he made the Freshman football team march from the lockeroom to the field and back. It was actually funny to watch football players with their shoulder pads marching. That high school had very little discipline problems.


27 posted on 11/15/2006 7:38:52 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

That is neat! Wish more teachers would do that today.


28 posted on 11/15/2006 7:39:53 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

Our high school had very little discipline problems either. If was a safe and friendly environment, even if there was 32 kids in grades 7-12.


29 posted on 11/15/2006 7:42:16 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: PhiKapMom

Last I heard there was a movie about it .. but other then than ... nothing and Clinton skates

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560763/posts


30 posted on 11/15/2006 7:42:33 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

It's all just a mess! :-(


31 posted on 11/15/2006 7:43:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: PhiKapMom

It was like a weekly field trip to the baseball diamond on the other side of town. You either walked or rode the bus. LOL


32 posted on 11/15/2006 7:43:32 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: PhiKapMom

Affirmative action? :-(


33 posted on 11/15/2006 7:44:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
It's all just a mess! :-(

Sad but true.  Worst part about it is, we're having to scrape the bottom of the barrel for the worst collection of reprobates to educate our aspiring young minds. 

35 posted on 11/15/2006 7:54:54 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0; PhiKapMom
Had they been white girls would you have mentioned their color?

Obviously, I don't know PKM's kid, so I can't speculate about what his thought process might be. I can relate something similar from a friend who is a professor at a small Christian college.

The enrollment at this college is largely minority, and he's run into many young people who are similar to the young ladies mentioned in the original post. They are intelligent and have a real interest in learning, but no one has ever challenged them to get things right. The young people who fit this description come from a variety of demographic backgrounds, but this combination seems to be more prevalent among blacks. I don't remember him using this phrase, but when he describes the situation, I'm reminded of President Bush's criticism of "the soft bigotry of low expectations."

I've heard of the problem of many black people looking down on educational achievement. At one time, some writers claimed that studying was considered "acting white" among blacks in school. In my experiences with blacks, I've never seen this attitude, but I don't deny that it could be real in some circles.

Mentioning the race of the young ladies in question may be most relevant because blacks felt so strongly that Clinton was going to help them in education. Many of them really believed that he would "do something" to erase the performance gap between them and the white kids in the suburbs. The fact that these young people whose formative school years were during the Clinton administration didn't learn the basics is more evidence that Clinton failed those who trusted him most.

Ultimately, I still believe that parental involvement will be the biggest factor in a kid's educational success. Either the parent makes learning a priority or not. If the parents don't make learning a priority, most kids won't recognize the value of education until they've lost their best opportunities. If the parents make learning a high priority, they can offset many weaknesses in the schools.

Bill

36 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:01 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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Sadly, the legacy of ignorance didn't begin with the Clinton administration. In the early 80's I went to the Austin Community College tutoring lab for help with my calculus. While waiting my turn with the tutor, I helped out with students having trouble with lower maths and general composition. Though I was a "C" student in high school (13 years earlier), I was astounded at the ignorance I saw there. The era of new math and the calculator destroyed any pretense of learning the "times tables", and so students were unable to perform any simple multiplication or division in their heads. Manual long division was nearly impossible for them to grasp. Essays were written with incomplete sentences and paragraphs that made no sense whatsoever. It was heart rending.

In my opinion, it began the second Senator Joe McCarthy was purged.
37 posted on 11/15/2006 7:58:54 PM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: PhiKapMom
That's been going on for years now and it's not just the black kids who are suffering. Look up "whole language" and "whole math" in Google and use your imagination.
38 posted on 11/15/2006 8:01:51 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: PhiKapMom

Thanks for the ping. I'm not surprised though, this has been going on for a long, long time. If you think of these kids stuck in horrible urban and rural (because they are many, many of those too) schools as natural resources, it's a horrible waste.


39 posted on 11/15/2006 8:06:41 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: WFTR

Thanks! Very well said and you have covered what he has been complaining about.

I see this as one of the reasons the programs to admit minorities that wouldn't qualify otherwise puts them at a handicap in college. My youngest daughter went to a Junior College for a year because her math score was one point below the requirement. It helped her in the long run and I don't see why anyone who cannot meet the requirement doesn't go there as well. Never made any sense to me.


40 posted on 11/15/2006 8:08:13 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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