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NO TO RUDI
Nealz Nuze ^ | 11/15/06 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/15/2006 6:06:03 AM PST by steve-b

Earlier this week we learned that Rudolph Giuliani has filed papers to form an exploratory committee. That's the first step to running for president. Well .. .it didn't take long for the religious right to announce that up with this they will not put. Colleen Parro, the head of some group called the Republican National Coalition for Life says that Giuliani is "absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances." The two issues she cited? Homosexuals and abortion.

Now ... what was it I said earlier this week that made so many zealots so unhappy? Oh yeah .. it was something about us needing a political movement dedicated to individual and economic liberty, limited government with a strong defense, cutting government spending, school choice and strong capitalist instincts .. and one that had no desire to force the people of this country to live under any particular codification of religious dogma.

Good luck on that.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; boortzaliberal; giuliani; guliani; judyruliani; prolife; rudi; rudy
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To: JamesP81
His so-called "pro gun control" stance was as an executive charged with enforcing existing law...and as a prosecutor charged with enforcing existing law.

If he agrees to appoint strict constructionists (he's spoken words of admiration for Alito and Roberts), the 2nd amendment issues will take care of themselves.

41 posted on 11/15/2006 6:39:27 AM PST by Mariner
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To: steve-b

Why is it that people who want political leaders who support if not share their moral views (a moral code which extends back for thousands of years)- are accused of being dogmatic religious zealots who are against "individual freedom"?

Some (many? most?) of us believe the "individual" starts at conception and that marriage (defined by the world's holy texts as being vows of fidelity before God between a man and a woman) ... is a religious sacrament into which govt is trying to clumsily intrude for purposes of social engineering...

That is radical dogma?


42 posted on 11/15/2006 6:39:50 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: steve-b
Well .. .it didn't take long for the religious right to announce that up with this they will not put.

Wow. I didn't realize Yoda was a religious right-winger.. ;^)

43 posted on 11/15/2006 6:41:29 AM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: steve-b

Lets all be moderate-libertairians. That sounds like a winner to me! ( extreme sarcasm!!!)


44 posted on 11/15/2006 6:42:37 AM PST by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: rodguy911

I'm holding out hope a conservative comes along, because right now, i don't see much difference between Hillary & Rudy, obviously rudy is slightly better, though. But only very slightly.


45 posted on 11/15/2006 6:43:51 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Captain Kirk
Gee....I thought that we already have a Patton in the WH, or so people here claimed before the election.

More like a McClellan.

46 posted on 11/15/2006 6:45:38 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: BunnySlippers
YES TO RUDY !!!

Great, another fan of the New York, pro-abortion, anti-constitution, cheat-on-the-wife liberal.

SAY NO TO RUDY!

Please, enough with liberal ccandidates, and the liberals here who support them!

47 posted on 11/15/2006 6:45:58 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (<h2>SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: steve-b
Please stick to the subject and do not spam the thread with irrelevancies.

The Constitution is irrelevant??? You support Julie-Annie???

48 posted on 11/15/2006 6:47:32 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Mariner
If he agrees to appoint strict constructionists (he's spoken words of admiration for Alito and Roberts), the 2nd amendment issues will take care of themselves.

Not so fast, my friend. For starters, Rudy would have to acknowledge that the Second Amendment is an inviolable personal guarantee, pledge to veto ANY anti-gun legislation, and eliminate BATF harrassment of gun owners and legitimate firearms dealers to gain any traction with the gun people. Then, it would be nice for him to tell us his plans for expanding the protection of gun owners' rights at the federal level, and which obnoxious gun laws he would push to repeal.

Rudy's got a LOOOOOONNG ways to go on this issue!

49 posted on 11/15/2006 6:47:32 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: BunnySlippers
Here's a campaign slogun you can use:

"The hell with conservatism, Vote for Rudy!"

50 posted on 11/15/2006 6:48:56 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Mariner
Abortion and Marriage are not CONSTITUTIONALLY in the federal realm.

Marriage is not in the federal realm and should remain in states; as it has so far. However, abortion is solidly in the federal realm. The function of the federal govt is to secure the rights of individuals. This includes securing the right of an unborn child to live, even if his mother wants to dismember him before he's even born.
51 posted on 11/15/2006 6:49:42 AM PST by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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To: Maelstrom

No doubt Rudy is 'far right' to many Freepers...


52 posted on 11/15/2006 6:51:00 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Mariner

I agree with you. See my Post #31 for further comments, though. It is completely pointless to elect candidates who champion "states' rights" in this country while the Federal judiciary consistently rules against this basic concept at every opportunity.


53 posted on 11/15/2006 6:51:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Rummyfan
Rudy's got three problesm as a Republican candidate. He's an All-Pro: pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, and pro-gun control. While that's not a problem in New York politics, it is nationally. Plus those pictures of him dressed in drag......

And a fourth problem: Rudy's messy divorces. The public will forgive one discreet divorce, such as President Reagan's, but Rudy's were high-profile, sensationalized tabloid material. The DBM will gleefully dredge all of that up, and ignore Hillary's (if she's the dem nominee) shady past.

54 posted on 11/15/2006 6:52:46 AM PST by Inspectorette (Prayers for 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub - American Hero)
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To: steve-b

Neal wants to split the vote and have the beast win....I'm off his radio show as of Today


55 posted on 11/15/2006 6:52:52 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Brilliant
If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him. If it's a choice between him, Romney and McCrazy, I'll vote for Rudi.

The only influence that the President has on abortion is by virtue of his role in appointing Supreme Court justices. I think Rudi would appoint conservative justices, irrespective of his views on abortion. He supported Alito and Roberts. That's good enough for me.

I agree. Sure, "Patton" would be great, but he's dead. There is no Patton, no Reagan waiting in the wings. If a President Rudi would appoint strict constructionist judges, and leave state matters to the states, he'd be OK in my book. We're going to have to learn to take what we can get, rather than go down in defeat because a candidate was not "Patton".

56 posted on 11/15/2006 6:56:12 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: JHBowden
Tancredo and Pence aren't going to hack it.

Rudy G can not pull in the conservatives...Rudy will lose the GOP vote...That's a fact of life...I'll write myself in before I vote for Rudy...

So why then, vote for Rudy??? Because you think he'll lose by millions less votes than Tancredo???

A Tancredo type is the only type that has a prayer of winning...Why? Because the pro-American crowd won't budge...Regardless of the outcome...

Don't waste your vote on R.G...

57 posted on 11/15/2006 6:58:14 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Señor Zorro

McClellan? If only Bush were a McClellan! We might have stayed out of the Iraq mess!


58 posted on 11/15/2006 7:01:31 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Dead Corpse

Sounds like a slogan for you. Not me.
Stay home, don't vote. And give us Hillary for president.


59 posted on 11/15/2006 7:02:20 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: LiveFree99

Could you not say the same for every past GOP president...and include the current one?


60 posted on 11/15/2006 7:03:09 AM PST by Mariner
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