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Al-Qaeda 'planning for nuclear attack'
The Scotsman ^ | November 14, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/13/2006 11:51:01 PM PST by MadIvan

Al-QAEDA is determined to acquire the technology to carry out a nuclear attack on the West, a senior Foreign Office official warned yesterday.

She said that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network was trawling the world for the materials and know-how to mount an attack using nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

The latest warning echoes the remarks last week of the MI5 director-general, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, that future terror attacks in Britain could involve weapons of mass destruction.

Asked if she had any doubt that al-Qaeda wanted to obtain the materials to carry out a nuclear attack on the West, the Foreign Office official told reporters at Westminster: "No doubt at all".

She said that terrorists were seeking the means to mount a range of attacks using chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear devices.

"We know that the aspiration is there, we know attempts to gather materials are there, we know that attempts to gather technologies are there," she said.

The latest warning comes as the government is preparing to make security a key theme of its legislative programme for the next parliamentary session, to be set out in the Queen's Speech tomorrow.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; anationofpussies; attack; demswillsaveusjoke; forecast4500degrees; islamonazis; nuclear; nukes; terrorattack; terrorism; wot
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This will sound awful, but I'm nearly at the point where I don't care anymore. Americans and Europeans no longer wish to fight the enemy.

I'm considering moving to China. I know *they* won't take any crap from the islamonazis.


41 posted on 11/14/2006 5:46:32 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Sadly, I think your plan might be the only one that works.

The founding commander of the Air Force's Strategic Air Command, Curtis LeMay, was asked in 1986 if the U.S. could have won in Vietnam. He replied, "In any two week period you care to mention." Of course, his plan was for massive strategic bombing, and it would have worked...we know that from information that's come out since the war regarding how the North Vietnamese viewed the Linebacker campaigns.

Mybe I'm biased because I cut my teeth in SAC, but we may just have to channel Curtis LeMay to win this thing. I'm not one of the "nuke 'em all" crowd, I just think it's time to get the non-terrorists and terrorist funders worried about what the terrorists might get them into.


42 posted on 11/14/2006 5:55:04 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: geopyg
One thing we have been doing is setting up radiation monitors at ports. etc.

Unfortunately, it does no good if they put it in a truck and drive it over an isolated part of the border ( Northern or Southern ).

43 posted on 11/14/2006 5:58:55 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: backtothestreets

......your firm belief goes directly to the issue at hand-whether the West or the East wins the religious war...it's my firm belief that Islam doesn't need to do one thing more in the way of direct terror, that 9-11 was sufficient for the purpose of preparing the West for a prayer rug in every home, because any attempt to unite in opposition will automatically trigger the multicultural responses that have been assiduously imbedded into our culture for the past forty years or so...I need look no further than the Catholic catechitical conference I attended last weekend in which a workshop devoted to 'Learning Islam' was well received and attended...or to our public library sponsoring evening lessons about Islam...any initial urge to retaliate will be beaten down in time by such 'enlightening' processes as these...I suggest those of you with children attending elementary and high school take a look at the curricula of these places, for if some nipping of the bud is to take place, it is necessary...


44 posted on 11/14/2006 5:59:25 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: MadIvan

See post 42...meant to direct it to you as well.


45 posted on 11/14/2006 6:00:05 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

That sounds great, but can you see the dems doing that if they're the ones in power?


46 posted on 11/14/2006 6:02:23 AM PST by JZelle
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To: zook

This will sound awful, but I'm nearly at the point where I don't care anymore. Americans and Europeans no longer wish to fight the enemy.


I feel that way sometimes. Americans have voted and they do not want to fight the enemy. I fear for my children that is my worry.


47 posted on 11/14/2006 6:03:47 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Mr. Silverback
Sorry, I agree with the late great General LeMay. Two Trident subs could carry out the strategic portion of this war in two hours. It would be all over but the mop up.

I am afraid it is going to come to this. The (radical) islams see us as weak and feckless. They only understand one thing. What passes for political leadership in that part of the world agrees with this analysis and is playing with fire.

If the dems elect a president in 2008, he/she might see a nuclear response as the only way to "earn their spurs" as tough on defense of the US. Events are not leading us to peace.

I just hope that the US is stockpiling neutron bombs, or ramps up the production line soon. I wouldn't want to see that much fallout released into the atmosphere.

48 posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:00 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: JZelle

See post 48


49 posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:46 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: IrishBrigade
Your concerns are valid. Islam is a religion of war and oppression that has some peaceful adherents, just as Christianity is a religion that values love between one man and one woman for life but has some adherents who think it's the religion of gay marriage. The problem is, it's difficult to get this across to people without seeming to demonize the Muslims that have no interest in doing anything to harm the U.S.

I will only say this: I may walk the path of Richard Wurmbrand. I may walk the path of Todd Beamer. I will not walk the path of the Muslim or the path of the submissive dhimmi.

50 posted on 11/14/2006 6:09:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: MadIvan

This is absolutely no surprise. So when it happens, they will blame it on Bush, Iraq, oppression, Israel. They will not put the blame where it belongs.


51 posted on 11/14/2006 6:11:56 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Followed by the outlawing and eradication of all Muslim fanatics (and anyone we think was in conspiracy/collusion with them)...


52 posted on 11/14/2006 6:13:49 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: angcat

It's not just you, trust me.


53 posted on 11/14/2006 6:22:18 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Sorry, I agree with the late great General LeMay.

Oh, I'm not speaking against a nuclear approach. When I say I'm not part of the "nuke 'em all" crowd, I mean I'm not part of that small but vocal group of Freepers who think our only hope is to just send the nukes flying right now.

Can MAD work with Islam? Well, those of us who believe in the trheat often say that at least 10% of them are al-Qaeda sympathizing radicals, which means an aenemy force of 100 million. But if the Osama radicals are vastly in the minority (10, 20 or 30% of Muslims) then they can be "outvoted" by the rest of them with the right motivation. For example, if the people of Iran were told, "If you develop an operational nuke we will make nuclear wa on your country immediately," they might have a revolt.

This is all dengerous stuff, but then again, human civilization is endangered at this moment. We need to press forward on all fronts, from military to cultural, and an atomic powered Big Stick may solve the problem or buy us time to get other methods to work.

54 posted on 11/14/2006 7:27:01 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Your scenario is chilling and spot on. The mohammedan cultists would be targets of violence and their cult centers razed. The mohammedans would demand to be protected and the only way to do that would be to put them in protective camps. If any cult leaders survive the initial violence they should be held in a separate protective camp far away from their factions fervent followers.

Yes, the cube would have to be vaporized. War, as you say, is war.


55 posted on 11/14/2006 7:30:04 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Brilliant
>Don't worry... Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will protect us.

Don't worry! Friendly
ALIENS from outer space
are protecting us!

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"As we have stated in the past, we were given an exception to the rule of non-interference to prevent WMD from being planted in Iraq, to prevent false terrorism attacks within the US, and to prevent the 1957 bird flu virus from being planted around the world by US and British intelligence agencies. We have, obviously, been granted yet another exception in order to counter voter fraud in the US. ...

Do the Zetas have any comments on the recent threat from Al Qaeda to blowup the white house?

"They haven't a prayer. We are stopping real terrorism within the US as well as the hundreds of attempts by Bush Co to effect false terror within the US."

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written Nov 11, 2006

56 posted on 11/14/2006 7:37:17 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: MadIvan

This report is obviously mistaken.

Nancy Pelosi, John Murtha, Charles Rangel, et.al., have told us we are now safer because of the election.


57 posted on 11/14/2006 7:39:53 AM PST by twntaipan (Mad about new taxes coming your way from the dhimmicrats in Congress? Thank your local libertarian.)
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To: twntaipan
I suspect Al Qaeda are going to time their attack in such a way as to hurt the Republicans the most.

The Democrats help Al Qaeda - not only are they soft on defence, they also promote the immorality (i.e. sanctioning "gay marriage") that gives red meat to the mullahs.

Regards, Ivan

58 posted on 11/14/2006 7:48:56 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"...But if the Osama radicals are vastly in the minority (10, 20 or 30% of Muslims) then they can be "outvoted" by the rest of them with the right motivation."

I don't think you understand this mohammedan cult. It is not a "Democracy" it is "Totalitarian" there is no vote. This cults doctrin is to spread their totaltarian views throughout the world by use of violence.

Beware of them! They will lie to you, tell you what they think you want to hear then turn their violence on you when they have you appeased.
59 posted on 11/14/2006 7:52:04 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I don't think you understand this mohammedan cult. It is not a "Democracy" it is "Totalitarian" there is no vote. This cults doctrin is to spread their totaltarian views throughout the world by use of violence.

Such things were written about the Japanese in 1942, but between your Devil Dogs and my beloved strategic bomber force, they became a pacifist nation. The question is not whether it can be done, but whether deterrence can do it or a few Hiroshimas--or a hundred--are necessary.

Consider this: If deterrence works, Islam becomes what Shinto is now. If deterrence is simply impossible, every religious site and major urban area in the Islamic world gets wiped out. Either way, there is no mass movement of violent cultists when we're finished.

I'm not sure it can work, and the problem is that we would probably need a major attack before we could get any politician to sign on. But if your answer is to fire up the ICBMs right now, we cannot do it. No one will sign on for genocide.

60 posted on 11/14/2006 8:41:54 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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