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"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" (Not the Tom Clancy novel)
Free Republic ^ | 11/12/2006 | gonzo

Posted on 11/12/2006 7:35:46 PM PST by gonzo

The following are copys of e-mails that I've sent to my employees up North (I live in Florida now), and Jim Robinson...

"Re: What's goin' on...

To Jim Robinson | 10/19/2006 4:43:47 AM EDT sent

Howdy Jim. Barry/gonzo here. What follows is an e-mail that I sent to my troops up North at my Company in South Bend, Indiana. They're a bunch of rabid VRWC buffs, and they wanted my take on world events, after I had warned them to 'keep their powder dry'.

A few days later, I sent this to Jim:

BTW, Jim, those TU-142's are actually TU-95's, an upgraded version of the 142. A little stronger, but still a 'Bear'. My bad. I flagged you on a thread about them.

............Barry/gonzo I didn't want to post it as a thread on FR because, well, I think I'm close to being right, and 'loose lips and all...'."
Here goes, with some other observations afterwards:

To my employees and JimRob:
Baryshery@aol.com wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1719198/posts

This link is part of a good look at the Enemies of the USA. There are active links on the thread that are also excellent, especially # 20.
READ THIS BEFORE YOU CLICK THE LINK, PLEASE:

I don't often write messages like this - in fact, not for 28 years as I remember, so here goes:

North Korea claims to have recently tested a nuclear bomb. This is highly unlikely, given all the intel that has been obtained, but they did explode something, on the order of about 800,000 pounds of TNT (tri-nitro-toluene), which is possible. Whether or not the little maniac running that Country has or can make a working A-Bomb in the future is irrelevant. North Korea is now under a virtual blockade of any shipments of any nuclear materials out of Korea, courtesy of the UN (the UN is a joke, but the votes are in, and Korean goods can and will be siezed on the high seas as necessary).
What is important is that they have already shipped a number of their possibly operational Big-Dong missles to Iran! Those missles in Iran can reach Israel, all of Europe, and much of Russia and Asia.

Now, I'm the only one here(at BAMAR) that can remember the Korean War as current events. China entered the Korean War on the side of the North (unofficially) when it appeared that the UN-Allied powers were about to defeat North Korea. China is now stuck with NK as their very-own bastard stepchild. I love the irony of it, because China doesn't want a nuke-enabled NK either, so they voted for blockade! So, for all intensive purposes, NK is no further problem.

Now, Iran: Iran is now making fissile material (stuff-that-goes-big-bang) for nuclear weapons, and will have enough material for their first A-Bomb before April, 2007, and possibly by December, 2006.
The guy in charge in Iran, who I call 'Amanutjob', is insane, and has often said, amongst other things, that he intends to destroy Israel, the United States, and anyone else that doesn't convert to Islam, and I believe he is sincere. He's crazy, but he's not kidding!
He also welcomes Armageddon, even and especially a nuclear one, and I believe him!
I think that he must be stopped, and that he will be stopped!

I hoped that our President Bush would be strong enough to give the order to destroy Irans' nuclear capability with conventional arms (and we have them in quantity), even if the USA had to go it alone. Logistically, Israel doesn't have the means, and is too far away to do it without using nukes, so it's up to the USA.
Middle-last week it was reported that Russia was activating quite a number of their old TU-142 Bear intercontinental bombers. These are relics of the Cold War, and wouldn't stand a chance going up against any defenses of the US, Britain, or even France (if France didn't surrender first). They can, however, carry and drop a huge bomb load over distance, and they were reliable. Therefore, I think Russia's in the coming fight on the side of 'the Good Guys'.

So, I said all that, to say this:
I think that sometime after the elections on November 7, (vote, dammit!) and before April, 2007, Irans' nuclear capabilities are going to be seriously attrited (we're gonna bomb the very-living-shit outa their facilities) using conventional weapons. We're also going to secure Irans' Southern oil facilities to protect them (Google - Maps of Iran), and also protect the Straits of Hormuz (see Maps...) by invading Iran from Iraq. (Gee, who would have thought that we'd already be in Iraq?)
When this starts (shit-hitting-the-fan), every so-called Mosque in the USA and in other Countries becomes a potential den of murderous zealots. Christians and Jews don't store weapons and explosives in their Churches and Synagogues, but Moslems do it all the time!!

It may be prudent to take steps to be able to protect ourselves before anything bad happens.
I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Neville Chamberlain (Google) was wrong, and about 90,000,000 souls subsequently perished.
I've read the Bible, both Testaments.
I've read the Koran (Quran), and it sucks!
Islam is not a religion - it is a cult of death.
I'm reading up on The Crusades now.(I think we're in one again, and this time, it's for keeps!)

I'll be happy to answer any questions. This is the longest letter I've ever written, and I can't even type!

Stay well, y'all, and hope to see you soon......................Barry

PS: And I thought the only nutbars I'd have to think about were these wierd Scientologists around
here..............B
End of e-mail.

To JimRob:
Additional info (and I don't want to dig too deep):

The USAF is presently working out of an Air Base in far Eastern Russia (Base name unknown), WITH the Russians. There was a ground collision accident there with a plane subsequently burning up. A USAF Tanker (KC-135 or KC-10) was involved. The story made page 99, and then went down the memory hole. I think we're arming the Russians with Smart Bombs, and possibly helping with mid-air re-fueling.

My personal opinion is that a three-pronged attack plan is being hatched:

#1)-The USA and Great Britain (and others) are in Iraq, and will commence Air and Ground ops against Iran as noted above. There may well be an amphibious incursion in the East (Google Maps of Iran).All conventional weaponry.

#2)-Israel will move North into Lebanon and finish-off Hizbolla (it made NO sense for them to stop last time), and will probably continue into Syria. The USA and Brits will probably lend Air cover as needed. All conventional weaponry.

#3)-Russia will probably be tasked with bombing the North Korean nuclear-bomb facilities, and maybe not the nuclear power plants - anybodys guess, but L'il Kim gets dead.
The Russians may help in Iran in the second wave of bombings as necessary, because those TU-142's are just too damned noisy. All conventional weaponry.

#4)-China will cooperate with all sides, but will stay out of the fight. Instead, I think they'll provide safe air passage and any intel they can. Theirs has become a peculiar form of Communism, and is actually transitioning into the biggest Capitalist Country in the World. They're not going to attack their largest market - the USA - and so, will become our new best friend.

#5)-After the initial destruction is completed, we'll probably call a time-out on the field, and ask the muzzies if they want to quit their evil ways, or would they like us to get serious with Nuclear Weapons?

#6)-It depends on their answer to #5!

Jim, when 9/11 happened, I knew in my gut that the muzzies (wogs) were going to NEED an object lesson in order to change their minds, just as the Germans and Japanese needed Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki to change theirs.
It is no accident that the USA is presently in Iraq, effectively splitting Syria and Iran, and positioned to take and hold the important parts of Iran.
I think that we know where all the Iraqi WMD's are buried in Syria, and that they're Chem and Bio weapons, that we'll burn later.

In my conversations with my troops (employees) up North, I've just cautioned them to be prepared for the possibility of some internal civil unrest here in the USA, started by Islamaniacs that are already here, in their mosques. It'll take some time for local Police to regain control.

Well, that's it so far, Jim! After the elections and before April, 2007! As I pick up more data, I'll add to this.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; coldwar2; iran; putin; russia; sovietunion; usa
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To: gonzo

bumping for later...


21 posted on 11/12/2006 8:39:41 PM PST by redhead (70,000 Military Veterans call Alaska "Home." It's nice to feel so protected)
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To: photodawg; Thunder90
Yer # 16: Your scenario is quite possible, also.

I tend to think that the USA, Russia, and now China have suffered enough deaths and mayhem at the hands of Islam.

China cut-off oil supplies to North Korea!

I forgot to add that one in the thread.

It doesn't matter what anyone calls it - radical islam, Al Qeda, islamofacism, etc., it's still Islam, and the Koran! Neville Chamberlain was an effete politician who thought he could make a deal with Nazis. He was wrong! History mourns the dead because of him.

We can't afford another deal-with-the-devil now that there are nukes involved. I hope our President realizes that and will act soon to save civilization. Stay well.........FRegards

22 posted on 11/12/2006 8:42:26 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Peach

Great research as always, Peach, thanks.

Don't know what to think of all this, though... Doesn't Congress have Bush's hands tied from taking any new military action?


23 posted on 11/12/2006 8:44:33 PM PST by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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To: photodawg
I think you are close, but here is my take.

Baker, Gates, Rice and Powell will talk the Iraq problem to death.

We will slowly ease out of Iraq. Iran and Syria will fill in the vacuum.

Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Egypt will then have Jordan and the Saudis in a vice so they will be forced to join up or be overrun by the crazies.

Now this axis will control so much of the world's oil the pressure on Europe will be unbearable. The huge Muslim population in Europe and England will make it even more difficult. Europe will capitulate. The English, as silly as they can be at times, are the toughest people in the world. It will be a bloodbath, but they will cure their Muslim problem one way or another when it comes to the decision time.

The Iranian axis will use oil money to build nuke weapons. That will ensure that Europe gives up.

Not a shot will be fired, other than the usual terrorist stuff.

That will leave England, China, Japan and Australia as US allies.

At that point, something really big will happen.

I see Russia as playing all ends against the middle and siding with no one in the open, but selling nukes to Iran while selling oil and gas to Europe, probably at an inflated price.

Only when it reaches this point, will the American people wake up. And then we will have to use nukes. It will be too big for foot soldiers.

Bush made a very bad mistake in trying to sell the Iraq war as a wonderful Christian thing to do; make Iraq a democracy. The man on the street does not give a flip whether the Iraqis have democracy.

Bush should have sold it for what it is: Europe 1930-39 .
24 posted on 11/12/2006 8:53:58 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: GOP Jedi
"...How does Bush do these things now without getting impeached? Is Israel on it's own RE Iran now?..."

If President Bush acts as I've described, the dimocRATS can pound sand in frustration!

Our President, and the leaders of Russia, China, et al, would be World Heroes where it counts for finally stopping the islamoidiocy. And it would finally be open-season on ANY person, people, or group that advocates islamoviolence. They'll have to write a new koran!

The UN would collapse and all its' inhabitants would be sent packing!

Who would be stupid enough to try impeachment then? Stay well..............FRegards

25 posted on 11/12/2006 8:57:30 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: gonzo
CAUTION: Looking into the Palantir is dangerous.


26 posted on 11/12/2006 9:05:11 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
"...Umm. Are we allowed to sink Chinese subs that shadow our ships? We are not at war with China so far as I know. I thought that our navy used to play chicken every now and then with the Soviets but I don't think we sank them..."

Nope! It's a game. Everybody tries-out their stuff just to see what works and what doesn't.

Not unlike the old Bear-games over the Arctic. I met some USAF pilots once who had done that duty in the 80's. Their stories were funny-as-hell.

Nobody shoots nuthin'................FRegards

27 posted on 11/12/2006 9:06:16 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Peach
Your # 20: Thanks for your post, Peach. You're spot-on, friend! Stay well armed and safe..........FRegards
28 posted on 11/12/2006 9:12:17 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Check these out

China Tries to Keep Quiet
November 7, 2006:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20061107.aspx

If you doubt how screwed up the large aircraft-carrier-centric U.S. Navy is, here's a report:

Is the U.S. Navy Overrated?
www.knightsbridgeuniversity.com/documents/Is%20the%20US.%20Navy%20overrated.pdf.

AMERICA'S ACUPUNCTURE POINTS
PART 2: The assassin's mace
By Victor N Corpus

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HJ20Ad01.html


29 posted on 11/12/2006 9:12:40 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: gonzo

There is some really interesting information in your work, but the conclusion is not correct.

It will go as in my post #24.

You make the assumption that Bush will do something and he will not.

The arrival of Baker, Gates and Hamilton means that we are entering a phase of deals, over and under the table, with the State Department heavily involved as well.

Bush has had is fill with war. He is now going to go the "lets make a deal" route.


30 posted on 11/12/2006 9:14:36 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: woodbutcher

Don't forget the impact of our new and closer relations with the Nation of India, who are also noo friends of the Islamofacists. Their strategic position in the world, as well as their military might and skilled manpower are an invaluable asset to your scenario. I believe they are our long term allies in this conflict.


31 posted on 11/12/2006 9:16:41 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: gonzo
Flame away...

Nope.

32 posted on 11/12/2006 9:21:12 PM PST by null and void ("Jihad" just means "[My] Struggle", but then again, so does "Mein Kampf"...)
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To: gonzo

bttt


33 posted on 11/12/2006 9:22:40 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
I think you are right.

And you also bring up something else by mentioning India.

Pakistan. It is likely that Pak will go with the Muslim world. It is just one assassin's bullet away from that now.

When that happens, what happens in Afghanistan?

Of course there are other factors, but it is hard to think of all of them this late at night.
34 posted on 11/12/2006 9:22:44 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: woodbutcher
Did George Noory suddenly start Web-hosting this site?
35 posted on 11/12/2006 9:23:58 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: gonzo

bombs away captain ...


36 posted on 11/12/2006 9:24:40 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: unspun

I am not smart enough to get it.


37 posted on 11/12/2006 9:25:47 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: Izzy Dunne

Sorry about the bad link…this provides the report in html, about halfway through the page…

Is the U.S. Navy Overrated (5.1)
An Updated Knightsbridge Working Paper
Copyright 2004 By Roger Thompson
Professor of Military Studies, Knightsbridge University.

http://www.combatreform.com/itsgindex.htm


38 posted on 11/12/2006 9:26:15 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: gonzo
They can, however, carry and drop a huge bomb load over distance, and they were reliable. Therefore, I think Russia's in the coming fight on the side of 'the Good Guys'.

Well, considering Mr. IwannaJihad hates the Russians, too, for spoiling the plans of the World Islamic State in the 'stans', and with the help of Dear Leader, has missles that can reach Russia in short order, I would think it prudent for the Russians to take measures to protect themselves. And if that means a pre-emptive strike against a Nuke facility in Iran, so be it. Russia knows WE certainly won't be voting to condemn them at the UN.

39 posted on 11/12/2006 9:32:08 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: woodbutcher
Your #'s 24 and 30: Thanks for your input, woodbutcher, I appreciate it! It really is Europe, 1930-1939 again, and I'm hoping President Bush acts soon to avoid a nuclear war in the future.

I don't think Amanutjob is going to build a nuclear arsenal - I think he'll throw them at Israel as soon as he's got them.

I still hope our President is up to it. Stay well armed and safe!............FRegards

40 posted on 11/12/2006 9:34:04 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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