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Goodbye, frying pan … hello, fire? Boone's skeptical of Democrats' 'give peace a chance' mantra
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 11/11/06 | Pat Boone

Posted on 11/11/2006 12:37:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2

If it is any indication, George McGovern, 1972 Democratic presidential candidate and author of a recent book "Out of Iraq: A Practical Plan for Withdrawal Now," which calls for troops to be out by June 30, is flying to Washington this week to meet with Democrat party leaders in Congress.


21 posted on 11/11/2006 5:00:19 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: backtothestreets

" this practice is but one of a multitude of strategies Islam is employing in their war upon the entire non-Muslim world."

Saw this lady on C-span, her story fits.

She said go find out who owns your local Muslim building from the title place, it is public information, and turn them into the FBI, so they can be watched.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev092706a.cfm

Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America
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Date: September 27, 2006

Quote here;
"Brigitte Gabriel lost her childhood to militant Islam. In 1975 she was ten years old and living in Lebanon when militant Muslims from throughout the Middle East poured into her country and declared jihad against Lebanese Christians."

Her web site:

http://americancongressfortruth.com/

Quote here;
"I am a victim of the Lebanese civil war, which was the first front in the worldwide Jihad of militant Islam against the only Christian country in the Middle East. My family’s home was shelled and destroyed leaving me wounded. I lived underground in a bomb shelter from age 10 to 17 without electricity and very little food. I had to crawl under sniper bullets to a spring to fetch water for my elderly parents. I was betrayed by my country, rescued by my enemy Israel, the Jewish State that is under attack for its existence today."

What will Pelosi do when women from these countries beg for help?


22 posted on 11/11/2006 6:20:57 AM PST by Son House
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To: txrangerette
There are many many millions of "every day lives Muslims" who despite Koranic passages flung at the world to justify the jihadists' barbarism really aren't on board with that.

I agree. The "nuke them all" crowd who call Pres. Bush a liberal for cooperating with moderate Muslims have their heads in the sand.

23 posted on 11/11/2006 7:54:19 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: txrangerette
Islam in the hands of the committed jihadists is warring on the Muslims who just want to go about their every day lives and make a buck, feed their families and survive.

Of course they are killing those heretics. Islam isn't about family,friends and country. It is about converting the world to Islam or making the Infidels subject to it. You are not doing that if you are more interested in worldly things like a job, vacations health insurance , personal appearance, retirement,education for your kids etc.

Worse yet for these so called moderate Muslims is they were born into the faith and have adopted the Infidel lifestyle, or are drifting in that direction. Muslim Fundamentalist are fighting and dying to kill us Infidels while the moderates sit on their hands,or become our useful idiots and collaborate with us.

So killing them along with us Infidels is not a problem for the fundamentalists. But they need them for now, just like the bears and deer need the trees in the forest for cover. - tom

24 posted on 11/11/2006 10:45:11 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: JohnHuang2
to our everlasting shame, there are 20 or 30 million eligible, even registered voters who couldn't be bothered, who stayed home or went to movies or decided their votes wouldn't matter.
You can be ashamed of that all you want, Pat - but I voted and I'm not gonna play that game of internalizing the "shame" of others. For all I know, those who didn't vote had no clue of who to vote for or against - in which case, why mourn their avoiding injecting even more ignorance into the polls than will be there anyway?

25 posted on 11/11/2006 11:08:01 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: txrangerette
We continue to see wide variances in how people categorize individual muslims. This is to be expected. We continue to see how people of varying levels of understanding view opportunities to pursuade muslim nations as how they can modify their behavior to in effect set them free from thousands of years of rigid mind control.
Like any battle, it is difficult in the early stages to make any judgment as how things will turn out.
26 posted on 11/11/2006 11:38:11 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: wildcatf4f3

"Especially since they fooled so many voters with "pro gun, anti abortion, goodoleboy" freshmen candidates."

This is how the democrats won this mid-term. They used stealth tactics on their constituents. Voters thought they voted for Reagan Democrat types.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 12:57:01 PM PST by Milligan
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To: txrangerette; Marine_Uncle; ohioWfan
I know you're convinced, but the brush you use to paint is too broad.

The brush is very broad. It is also heavy and difficult to wield. I am entirely certain that as you state, there are millions of Muslims that want little more than to eek out a living for their families. And I have to believe many are good people at their core, and virtually trapped by Islam. If I may share a similar perspective to which I am tied.

I never knew my paternal grandmother as well as I would have liked. And her parents passed while I was in my infancy. I mention them as they were German-Austrian. They were very good people. Despite having lived in the US for decades, their ties to family left behind remained strong. Like my grandmother and her parents, these were good people. They were also part of the population that comprised Nazi Germany.

Many of our distant relatives didn't survive the war. My grandmother never faulted our government for their deaths, be they young or old. As she taught me, there was no physical way of identifying a good German from a bad German. Because of the acts of a few, all had to be seen as the same until the enemy was defeated.

I know it was heart wrenching for my grandmother. Even as a teenager in the late nineteen-sixties, I recall her clutching the aged letters of loved ones that didn't survive the war. I also know she knew there was no other way the Nazis could be defeated as they had no physical characteristic that would distinguish them from good Germans.

If life were so simple that all that sought to make a buck, feed their families and survive would identify people as good, then we've no enemies anywhere. I'm certain you know such a perspective would be fallacy. I know too that you are of good conscience from your reply.

Because my view is that it is Islam that produces our enemies, just as Nazism once produced our enemies, then yes, I do view all Iraqi Muslims as equals. Only their abandonment of that which is driving the war brought upon us would set one Iraqi apart from another. I further believe such Iraqis exist, but they are essentially trapped within a ideological society that would murder them if they sought to abandon Islam. We should offer these persons every protection possible once they made themselves known to us. They are the future of a truly free Iraq. We did the same as our forces occupied German towns and cities during WWII.

It won't be easy. War never is. But war is being made upon us, and being mere mortals, we've no way to distinguish the good from the bad within a population until they identify themselves. Please believe I wish so much there were an easier way. I know too that difficult times lie ahead for all of us. The times will call us to do that which is contrary to our American heritage, just as it called past generations to secure our freedom.
28 posted on 11/11/2006 1:37:23 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Son House
"What will Pelosi do when women from these countries beg for help?"

Good question!

I've no doubt the only way we will defeat our enemies will come when we are united as one people. This will not happen before the Democrats and liberals taste the same bitter wine of betrayal President Bush and conservatives have tasted. Our nation has traveled this path before.

In the years leading up to WWII, it was primarily liberals that were banging the drums warning of impending war, and it was conservatives that dispelled the notion wanting nothing more than to just get along.

To his credit, FDR, a liberal by most any measure, recognized beforehand the need to seek unity. He achieved this unity by appointing a staunch conservative Republican as Secretary of War. It was a post Henry Stimson would retain throughout the war years, and it was crucial to unifying our nation as one against our enemies. Henry Stimson may be the most under recognized contributor to our victories, and his appointment the most crucial made by FDR.

Now that the Democrats have won control of Congress, they will likely want to practice appeasement similar to what pre-WWII conservatives in our nation, and indeed the conservatives led by PM Chamberlain embraced in the UK. When that appeasement ushers in betrayal by our enemies, and it will, only then will liberals and Democrats alike have to accept our enemies do not hold their hatred for conservatives and Republicans alone, but for all Americans. Only then will we have an opportunity to unify. It is as it must be if we are to defeat our enemies.

Time will tell.
29 posted on 11/11/2006 2:37:56 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: JohnHuang2

Thank you, Pat Boone.
At least there is ONE person in the entertainment industry who gets it. God Bless You.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 4:55:05 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Stallone

"Therefore, anyone concluding the Republicans lost because they didn't move to the center is dead wrong.

Republicans lost because they didn't govern like Conservatives."

Instead, they acted like globalists--caring only about power and money.


31 posted on 11/11/2006 4:55:40 PM PST by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: JohnHuang2

It's 3-4 days and the creatures are already crawling out from under their rocks, and they are saying exactly the same things as they were in 1994 until that election. The country doesn't want that, didn't want it in 1994 and wants it even less now.


32 posted on 11/11/2006 4:59:19 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: backtothestreets
My position concerning dealing with any radicial minded muslim in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with those twerpts that are just coming on board, know little about world history, and choose to fight on the side of allah the moon rock.
My position is: Kill the *uckers. Tis that simple.
33 posted on 11/11/2006 6:20:06 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: JohnHuang2

btt


34 posted on 11/11/2006 7:36:28 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Marine_Uncle

As much as it pains me, my position is toward all Muslims.


35 posted on 11/11/2006 8:28:34 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets

Well sorry but I can't encourage you in that department.


36 posted on 11/12/2006 5:15:16 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: wildcatf4f3
If we'd have been more ruthless with the Communist infestation into the US after the early 1920's, we'd be in a much better position throughout the world. If we'd have been more ruthless in supporting the Nationalist Chinese, we'd be in a better position. If we'd have been a more ruthless military power and more forcefully represented a Pax Americana throughout the 20th century, we'd be in a stronger position.

Sadly, we abandoned the philosophies that brought us to the world stage, economically, socially, militarily, spiritually.

37 posted on 11/12/2006 5:30:32 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: JohnHuang2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1737118/posts


38 posted on 11/12/2006 5:33:57 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: ViLaLuz

You are right that not governing like conservatives was a contibution to the Repulican loss.

What I question is your comment about Republicans acting like globalists and caring about "power and money"

I might think you are a liberal for that comment. Bubba, put NAFTA through. And I seem to think Mr. Reid cares about a good real estate deal, no matter how crooked it may be. Mr. Kennedy sure cared about power and money when Mary Joe laid dead under water in his car, Mr. Kennedy cared about power when he approached the Russians to stab Reagan in the back.

I could list these things all day. But lets just make sure we all know the Dems will lie to get power and money on a daily basis. They sure did prior to Nov 7th


39 posted on 11/12/2006 5:56:50 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: JohnHuang2
I think W.F.Buckley nailed it: this election is a victory for the "see no evil" crowd - sadly, many Americans have either gone into denial, or have bought into the "Bush Conspiracy" business, and don't actually believe there are any threats to this country from Islam, China or anywhere else - to many of them, 9/11 was concieved as an eveel right wing conspiracy, not as the opening shot of a 100 year war for the survival of Western Civilization.

The evidence is to the contrary: there are people out there who really want to kill us, and really want to impose "Islamic peace" (e.g.- submission) upon the entire world. Islam looks at the degenerate Europpeans and San Francisco Democrats and correctly percieves that these people will not resist them - these remain testosterone-free zones. As for the whole bit being a GWB conspiracy, oh that it were so!

The truth is that it is immature and self-indulgent to believe "Daddy" controls everything - the threat from Islam is no joke, nor is the potential threat from an increasingly assertive China or a rearming Russia.

The Demonicrats are about to make a serious problem potentially fatal (but don't worry, Leahy will protect the civil rights of the terrorists). The "one world" they strive to achieve will end up being a the world of Dhimmitude.

The divine irony is that the leftist poofters will be the first to be put to death by the Islamofascists...

40 posted on 11/12/2006 5:56:58 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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