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First Order of Business for Democrats: The Draft
The American Thinker ^ | November 10th, 2006 | Ray Robison

Posted on 11/10/2006 1:56:04 PM PST by neverdem

On January 8th of 2003, Congressman Charles Rangel [D-NY] began an extensive campaign to bring back the military draft. He repeatedly submitted legislative bills to begin a military draft and compel all American men and women up to the age of forty-two to serve two years of military service. Under the Republican-controlled Congress, such bills went down to defeat.

One of the few notable supporters of the draft was Congressman John Murtha [D-PA]. Congressman Murtha reportedly is preparing to campaign to take over the highly influential position of House Majority Leader. Congressman Rangel is set to take over the House Ways and Means Committee. Two proponents of a military draft will most likely take over two key leadership positions in the new Democrat-contolled House. Surely they were not lying to America when they proposed a draft? They would not make such a serious proposal for a mere political cheap shot, would they?

As recently as last February of 2006, Rangel once again introduced draft legislation. In a press release he stated,

“Every day that the military option is on the table, as declared by the President in his State of the Union address, in Iran, North Korea, and Syria, reinstatement of the military draft is an option that must also be considered, whether we like it or not,” Congressman Rangel said. “If the military is already having trouble getting the recruits they need, what can we do to fill the ranks if the war spreads from Iraq to other countries? We may have no other choice but a draft.”

Congressman Rangel says that the requirements of continued war in Iraq would necessitate a draft. Thus it is important to determine whether the new democrat controlled congress will continue the fighting or change course and withdraw US forces from Iraq.

Now that the Democrats are in control of the House and the Senate, a review of their previous policy decisions on the Iraq war will be an important indicator of  where the new Democrat Congressional leadership will take the direction of the war. Despite many promises among Democratic incumbents and Democrats to disengage in Iraq, in June of 2006 Senate Democrats overwhelmingly rejected a bill to lay a time table for troop withdrawal from Iraq.

The bill was written by Senator Kerry with only six Democrats voting for the withdrawal. It should also be noted that nearly half of the Congressional Democrats voted for the war in 2002. In late 2005, many Democrats in the House voted against proposals for both an immediate withdrawal and a time table. Considering recent history, the Democrats are unlikely to take a position of disengagement.

As such, it is possible that Congressman Rangel’s latest draft proposal will come up for consideration in the House. With Murtha riding heard over the Democrats, he may well push them to approve Rangel’s draft legislation submitted earlier this year. Rangel and Murtha both served in the military at time of war in Korea and Vietnam respectively. The draft was in effect at the time each man was in the military. Both have called for it publicly or submitted legislation. How long can it be until they get what they asked for now that they are in charge of the House?

According to a press release from the new Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) we can expect an escalation in fighting in Afghanistan. Congresswoman Pelosi said in a press release just a few weeks ago,

 “President Bush’s failure to finish the job against terrorism in Afghanistan before launching his ill-advised invasion of Iraq has made the lives of the Afghan people more difficult and the American people less safe.  The war against terrorism is in Afghanistan, and unless the President makes winning that war an immediate priority, the risks to the security of the United States will continue to grow.”

Clearly the new Speaker intends to increase troop strength in Afghanistan. She should find support in senior Senator John Kerry (D-MA) who stated in September of 2006,

“When did denying al-Qaida a terrorist stronghold in Afghanistan stop being an urgent American priority?” Kerry said. “How is it possible that we keep sending thousands of additional U.S. troops into the middle of a civil war in Iraq but we can’t find any more troops to send to Afghanistan?”

Since no Republican voted for the draft when it was submitted previously it is likely President Bush will veto the measure the next time it comes up for a vote. It does not seem likely that the Democrats will be able to overcome a veto despite the calls to expand the war in Afghanistan and refusals to approve withdrawal from Iraq.

Of course, it remains to be seen whether the Democrats will bring to the table now what they called for under a Republican Congress.

Ray Robison is the proprietor of Ray Robison: Pointing Out the Obvious to the Oblivious, and an occasional contributor to American Thinker.



Ray Robison


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; charlesrangel; draft; iraq; johnmurtha; murtha; rangel
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I wrote if we needed the draft, that I wouldn't have a problem with it. I prefer to have volunteers.


181 posted on 11/10/2006 3:43:54 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: steel_resolve
I don't believe in the draft, but I would suppport some type of national service for all young adults.

Compulsory national service is antithetical to a free society.

182 posted on 11/10/2006 3:44:09 PM PST by Live and let live conservative
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

This was in 1970, I don't know if what my buddies told me was a lie or not, but they never lied to me before that.


183 posted on 11/10/2006 3:45:48 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Fury

Ping for later read


184 posted on 11/10/2006 3:49:43 PM PST by Fury
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To: Strutt9
Sounds like the movie Starship Troopers.

The movie is a pale shadow of the book. A very pale shadow.

185 posted on 11/10/2006 3:52:15 PM PST by null and void ("Jihad" just means "[My] Struggle", but then again, so does "Mein Kampf"...)
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To: Hendrix
"Increasing the size of the Army would have been nice too!"

Yes, that is a great idea. We take lots of people out of productive jobs that add to our GNP and put them in the army to work for the government, which does not produce anything. We will really have a strong economy with that idea.

How many tours in Iraq and Afghanistan are enough? With a larger Army, those one year tours would be less frequent.

186 posted on 11/10/2006 3:53:58 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Lil'freeper

Thanks, I will.


187 posted on 11/10/2006 3:54:26 PM PST by Strutt9
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To: yellowdoghunter

Working to feed a family is serving your country. It still comes down to family. Sitting on your arse serves no one. Go back to the CCC camps for males on welfare. Hospital work/Old age homes for females on welfare. NO FREE RIDES.


188 posted on 11/10/2006 3:56:56 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: HitmanLV
Good evening.
"They are not the CiC, and frankly no closer to the CiC in 2008."

They don't need to be and we don't need to leave Iraq in 6 months for them to gut the military. The DemocRATs now control the checkbook. That's part of their job and they have used withdrawl of funding as a way of abandoning allies before. Our war ends in Iraq when the funding goes. It probably will come here not too long after that.

Michael Frazier
189 posted on 11/10/2006 3:59:30 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

I don't think they have the guts (or the votes) to stop funding the soldiers in harms way.


190 posted on 11/10/2006 4:01:21 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Sacajaweau

Your posts makes absolutely no sense to me.....


191 posted on 11/10/2006 4:01:33 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's. Volunteer to help get Conservatives elected!)
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To: woodbutcher
In the book, service wasn't necessarily military.

It would also mean that I wouldn't have earned the vote.

And your 7,000,000 figure is based on everyone wanting to be a Citizen. Not everyone will, may will be content to simply be residents. How many who could vote bother?

BBL, My dad [WWII, Korea, Vietnam] just called. And frankly I'd druther talk to him...
192 posted on 11/10/2006 4:02:00 PM PST by null and void ("Jihad" just means "[My] Struggle", but then again, so does "Mein Kampf"...)
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To: null and void
Voluntary National Service is theoretically a different animal.

Unfortunately right now the parasites would be setting the terms of service.

Rangel's preferred terms of service would probably make 13 weeks of rent-a-mob participation equivalent to two full years dodging IED's in Iraq.

And he'd probably want the pay scale equalized as well: pay for the 13 weeks equivalent to two years military.

So for the foreseeable future I'm very negative about anything calling itself "National Service". Once you can show me it won't be just another tool in the Left's hands to impose their beloved Socialist Paradise....
193 posted on 11/10/2006 4:03:35 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: null and void

You have two conversations crossed up in your mind.

My 7,000,000 number and the huge costs involved was in reply to the idea of compulsory service for all. That was a totally different topic from the discussion of service required for voting privileges.

I don't blame you. It would be nice to talk to my Dad and Mother. I wish I could.

They told me it would take three years to get over it. It was a lie. I never will.


194 posted on 11/10/2006 4:09:16 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: HitmanLV
Good evening.

You may be right. We'll know sometime in the next couple of years, eh.

Michael Frazier
195 posted on 11/10/2006 4:13:26 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: null and void

Not even a shadow, more like the way in which e a pool of vomit resembles the fine meal it once was.


196 posted on 11/10/2006 4:13:53 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: brazzaville

Yes! Keep the faith! We have work to do!


197 posted on 11/10/2006 4:14:29 PM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: ANGGAPO

He is a republican,and well as my other son who is 30.


198 posted on 11/10/2006 4:20:00 PM PST by patriciamary
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To: ansel12
"LOL, I didn't believe in the draft either..."

Weeeel.. to be sure, I'm not sure I particularly like the idea of a draft, either. There is no question that for my particular situation, the military was exactly the sort of structure that I needed. The military is not the Vietnam era military that is probably in the popular culture stereotype. It is a very professional, career oriented force with outstanding NCO's and Officer corps. The Army in particular took a nosedive morale during the 70's. It is entirely clear to me now that enlisting when I was a bit younger would have been theoretically a much better idea than waiting till I was in my early 20's? A draft would have solved that dilemma nicely. Any talk of a draft is bound to be fraught with difficulties because of the rhetoric involved. If Social Security is the third rail in politics... If this subject is raised
199 posted on 11/10/2006 4:28:51 PM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: Freedom4US

Addendum: I should probably point out that the Vietnam era military was probably the finest ever fielded up to that point, in no way did I mean to construe the popular media image of that era soldier, sailor, airman or marine, et al.


200 posted on 11/10/2006 4:32:25 PM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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