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First Order of Business for Democrats: The Draft
The American Thinker ^ | November 10th, 2006 | Ray Robison

Posted on 11/10/2006 1:56:04 PM PST by neverdem

On January 8th of 2003, Congressman Charles Rangel [D-NY] began an extensive campaign to bring back the military draft. He repeatedly submitted legislative bills to begin a military draft and compel all American men and women up to the age of forty-two to serve two years of military service. Under the Republican-controlled Congress, such bills went down to defeat.

One of the few notable supporters of the draft was Congressman John Murtha [D-PA]. Congressman Murtha reportedly is preparing to campaign to take over the highly influential position of House Majority Leader. Congressman Rangel is set to take over the House Ways and Means Committee. Two proponents of a military draft will most likely take over two key leadership positions in the new Democrat-contolled House. Surely they were not lying to America when they proposed a draft? They would not make such a serious proposal for a mere political cheap shot, would they?

As recently as last February of 2006, Rangel once again introduced draft legislation. In a press release he stated,

“Every day that the military option is on the table, as declared by the President in his State of the Union address, in Iran, North Korea, and Syria, reinstatement of the military draft is an option that must also be considered, whether we like it or not,” Congressman Rangel said. “If the military is already having trouble getting the recruits they need, what can we do to fill the ranks if the war spreads from Iraq to other countries? We may have no other choice but a draft.”

Congressman Rangel says that the requirements of continued war in Iraq would necessitate a draft. Thus it is important to determine whether the new democrat controlled congress will continue the fighting or change course and withdraw US forces from Iraq.

Now that the Democrats are in control of the House and the Senate, a review of their previous policy decisions on the Iraq war will be an important indicator of  where the new Democrat Congressional leadership will take the direction of the war. Despite many promises among Democratic incumbents and Democrats to disengage in Iraq, in June of 2006 Senate Democrats overwhelmingly rejected a bill to lay a time table for troop withdrawal from Iraq.

The bill was written by Senator Kerry with only six Democrats voting for the withdrawal. It should also be noted that nearly half of the Congressional Democrats voted for the war in 2002. In late 2005, many Democrats in the House voted against proposals for both an immediate withdrawal and a time table. Considering recent history, the Democrats are unlikely to take a position of disengagement.

As such, it is possible that Congressman Rangel’s latest draft proposal will come up for consideration in the House. With Murtha riding heard over the Democrats, he may well push them to approve Rangel’s draft legislation submitted earlier this year. Rangel and Murtha both served in the military at time of war in Korea and Vietnam respectively. The draft was in effect at the time each man was in the military. Both have called for it publicly or submitted legislation. How long can it be until they get what they asked for now that they are in charge of the House?

According to a press release from the new Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) we can expect an escalation in fighting in Afghanistan. Congresswoman Pelosi said in a press release just a few weeks ago,

 “President Bush’s failure to finish the job against terrorism in Afghanistan before launching his ill-advised invasion of Iraq has made the lives of the Afghan people more difficult and the American people less safe.  The war against terrorism is in Afghanistan, and unless the President makes winning that war an immediate priority, the risks to the security of the United States will continue to grow.”

Clearly the new Speaker intends to increase troop strength in Afghanistan. She should find support in senior Senator John Kerry (D-MA) who stated in September of 2006,

“When did denying al-Qaida a terrorist stronghold in Afghanistan stop being an urgent American priority?” Kerry said. “How is it possible that we keep sending thousands of additional U.S. troops into the middle of a civil war in Iraq but we can’t find any more troops to send to Afghanistan?”

Since no Republican voted for the draft when it was submitted previously it is likely President Bush will veto the measure the next time it comes up for a vote. It does not seem likely that the Democrats will be able to overcome a veto despite the calls to expand the war in Afghanistan and refusals to approve withdrawal from Iraq.

Of course, it remains to be seen whether the Democrats will bring to the table now what they called for under a Republican Congress.

Ray Robison is the proprietor of Ray Robison: Pointing Out the Obvious to the Oblivious, and an occasional contributor to American Thinker.



Ray Robison


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; charlesrangel; draft; iraq; johnmurtha; murtha; rangel
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
No, I did not, that was in answer to a specific question. However, see post number 109 to see what I am really talking about when it comes to service, volunteering, learning, etc....whatever one wants to call it.

However, I don't wish to fight over this, as it is just my opinion.

161 posted on 11/10/2006 3:25:06 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's. Volunteer to help get Conservatives elected!)
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To: P-Marlowe
You speak of what you know little about....there was no war going on when I graduated from HS in 1961...but trust me all fit males would serve a minimum of 2 years on active duty. Contrary to other posts here the draftee in those days was much better than the punks, like me, who enlisted. One reason is they were much more mature because if they didn't volunteer for the draft they usually were in their early 20's before being drafted. They were a guiding light for us young'uns... I am indebted to the Military for letting me grow up...at a very young age partly because of the draft. I got out after my first enlistment...went to college...ROTC and then pilot training. It was good for me...
162 posted on 11/10/2006 3:25:32 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
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To: gridlock

You're completely correct. It was a ploy to scare the population and never meant to be implemented.


163 posted on 11/10/2006 3:25:46 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: P-Marlowe
No one said your kids had to do any volunteering. I just think it is a good thing, but others do not. I can live with that.

I wish everyone had the chance to live for a year overseas and experience a different culture, but not everyone does.

164 posted on 11/10/2006 3:26:40 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's. Volunteer to help get Conservatives elected!)
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To: RedStateRocker
I like what Robert Heinlein proposed:
If you don't serve, you can't vote and you can't hold any public office.
Citizenship should be earned.

Me too.

165 posted on 11/10/2006 3:27:08 PM PST by null and void ("Jihad" just means "[My] Struggle", but then again, so does "Mein Kampf"...)
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To: RedStateRocker

Sounds like the movie Starship Troopers.


166 posted on 11/10/2006 3:28:50 PM PST by Strutt9
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To: goldstategop
I agree. People should want to serve. (Before I get the hateful replies, I said should, not mandatory)....some people are so sensitive...:)

Most of these people would never make it in Israel. And before you say "that is why I don't live in Israel", know that things change and one never knows when we might be fighting for our very survival, if we aren't already.

167 posted on 11/10/2006 3:29:49 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's. Volunteer to help get Conservatives elected!)
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To: Gaffer
I did three years in the Army Airforce during WW2 and from experience I can guarantee that you are right. The misfits contaminate the group and someone usually gets killed because of it.
168 posted on 11/10/2006 3:30:10 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: null and void

Earn the right to vote. Makes sense to me...but of course we would be in the minority here on FR


169 posted on 11/10/2006 3:30:16 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
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To: taxcontrol

My favorite deuce dream is the movie, one of the "Tremors" sequels, where Burt (?) opened up at night on a bunch of walking graboids (the evolution stage before ass-blasters) with pedestal-mounted quad AA deuces....he laughed all the way through until he emptied the cans....(must have had one big woody.....).....


170 posted on 11/10/2006 3:31:12 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: ghostkatz

"Don't want to turn this into a "boys vs girls"thing. I regret not enlisting in the Air Force right after high school back a couple of deecades ago, and I'm a "girl". I would have had a good disciplinary background and probably been able to pursue medical career training. and I danged sure would have loved to have flown one of those awesome fighters.(my niece got to do this) Do not assume all us gals are wimps, or Rosie O'Donnell types."



I know what you mean, believe me it isn't about thinking of women as wimps, But there are real reasons why armies have always looked the same, and those reasons didn't change because of the 60s.


171 posted on 11/10/2006 3:31:36 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ANGGAPO
I did three years in the Army Airforce during WW2 and from experience I can guarantee that you are right. The misfits contaminate the group and someone usually gets killed because of it.

....and you think there is not misfits in a volunteer force?? Hell they are all dummies who can't get a job....the American people have spoken ala echoing the sentiments of the traitor skerry.. Seriously there are so-called misfits in all combat units.

172 posted on 11/10/2006 3:35:07 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
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To: null and void

That would mean that Kerry, Murtha, McCain should run the country and that your mother, sister, brothers that did not or could not go have no vote.

Think first.

To have a navy, you must have ships, planes, missiles, subs, ..Army, Marines, same thing.

7,000,000 men and women to cloth and equip.

Or would you have them march with wooden guns?

The entire concept will never fly.


173 posted on 11/10/2006 3:35:55 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: ANGGAPO

I remember some of my buddies stationed in Germany that they had to patrol their own posts at night with helicopters sometimes to keep soldiers from mugging each other. Draftees mostly....


174 posted on 11/10/2006 3:36:34 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
Perhaps, but I doubt it. They have a fairly tight screen for enlistment.
175 posted on 11/10/2006 3:38:12 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Cheburashka
Ah. I think Heinlein's point was that service was a requirement for full citizenship. Anyone could be a resident, but to be a voter or a office holder one had to serve. That filtered the parasites out of the body politic and voter pools.
176 posted on 11/10/2006 3:40:01 PM PST by null and void ("Jihad" just means "[My] Struggle", but then again, so does "Mein Kampf"...)
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To: steel_resolve
I don't believe in the draft, but I would suppport some type of national service for all young adults.

Sounds good, but totally unworkable and it would cost a fortune to administer. We have about 30 million people in the 18-26 cohort. Imagine trying to administer such a huge system.

177 posted on 11/10/2006 3:40:08 PM PST by kabar
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To: Strutt9
Sounds like the movie Starship Troopers.

That lame, ridiculous movie was only loosely based on the excellent novel by the same name. Yes, the Heinlein story referenced herein is Starship Troopers. I encourage you to read the book. It is short, but potent. Much food for thought.

178 posted on 11/10/2006 3:40:55 PM PST by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
....Hell they are all dummies who can't get a job....the American people have spoken ala echoing the sentiments of the traitor skerry......

If you really think the draftees of Vietnam were that much better, then there really isn't anything I can say to you other than it wasn't what I saw. I, for one, have worked with the military of today since 1980 and I have seen none of which you speak...

179 posted on 11/10/2006 3:41:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
I remember some of my buddies stationed in Germany that they had to patrol their own posts at night with helicopters sometimes to keep soldiers from mugging each other. Draftees mostly....

and what year would that have been?? That appears to me to be out and out lie!! Prove me wrong!! Oh by the way I was there.....

180 posted on 11/10/2006 3:43:38 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
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