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Boren's ACU Rating is 64%, exactly the same as Arlen Specter's. Not great, but one of the best donkey ratings in the house. Since many of the votes rated are along party procedural lines or CYA votes for bills with overwhelming support/opposition along party lines, he is actually better than Specter by far.

So far, this hasn't hit news as far as I am aware. There is no way all the Blue Dogs would stick with Boren on a challenge because many of them, particularly in the new freshman class, are beholden to George Soros for their election. Another batch of them are fake moderates to give them coverage in a fairly conservative housedistrict.

However, even with undecided house races, the Dems will hold no more than about a 15 seat majority, meaning that if one-third of the Blue Dogs and the Republicans combine, Boren would be the next speaker.

Anyone who has a Blue Dog representative, a potential Blue Dog or even a wavering or spineless Republican as a congressman should be contacted a.s.a.p. to support the Boren plan . . . or Boren rumor as it is currently unconfirmed as being anything other than a trial balloon.

1 posted on 11/10/2006 12:41:36 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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Sounds like too good a man. Hasn't got a chance.


2 posted on 11/10/2006 12:43:23 PM PST by RexBeach ("Important principles may, and must be, inflexible." Abraham Lincoln)
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There's no way this can happen. Too many facist-left RATS want to poke us all in the butt with a Pelosi.


3 posted on 11/10/2006 12:45:48 PM PST by samtheman
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Wouldn't that be sweet! Especially considering that I heard Pelosi referring to herself as Speaker already.


5 posted on 11/10/2006 12:47:30 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Batting .000 in Illinois)
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I will say this now. ANY democrat who votes against Pelosi, and then votes to his principles and what they promised, I will seriously consider supporting THEM in the next election.

All of you republicans who just voted in democrats in heavily republican districts, (whether YOU voted that way or not), now's your chance. Write to your NEW congressman, push for support for Boren for Speaker. This will send a message to our troops.


6 posted on 11/10/2006 12:48:25 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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I would love to do this as a put-up-or-shut-up deal to alleged moderate to conservative Dems. Here's a scenario I dreamed up, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it's plausible or feasible:

Republicans make a deal with conservative Dems whereby they throw their support behind one of the conservative Dems to become speaker. In exchange, Republicans and conservative Dems share committee chairs and essentially govern as one party until the next election.


7 posted on 11/10/2006 12:49:45 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (http://lonestarconservative.blogspot.com/2006/11/open-letter-to-moderate-voters.html)
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When in Washington, do as Washington does!

When a citizen in the U.S. of A.,

do as special interest dictates, via Washington!

8 posted on 11/10/2006 12:50:04 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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I know the Blue Dogs can't stand Pelosi. Maybe the Blue Dogs will bring up her socialist ties.....Naw.
16 posted on 11/10/2006 12:54:51 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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There will be a better a chance that I will see marshmallow pies with marmalade skies.

LOL! It is funny how you all think that nancy pelosi is not going to be Speaker.

She will be Speaker and those of you that voted for these so-called "conservative new dems" will have buyers remorse.

20 posted on 11/10/2006 12:57:44 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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I have already contacted Rep. Boren's office about this. He is my Representative and very conservative. Pro-life, pro-gun, pro-God.....seriously, he is as conservative as they come. I told him that I can stand (since I have no choice) the Democrats being in charge but I could NOT stand Nancy Pelosi leading this country, being the face of our country, or one of them.

How I pray this could be true. However, Nancy has the whole California delegation on her side which is how she wins.

23 posted on 11/10/2006 12:59:11 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's. Volunteer to help get Conservatives elected!)
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Pelosi needs exactly 1/2 plus one vote of the democrat caucus to be Speaker.

She has that sewn up better than a San Francisco drag queens dress.

26 posted on 11/10/2006 1:00:59 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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but but but the drapes, the drapes.


27 posted on 11/10/2006 1:06:18 PM PST by OldFriend (Run and Hide, Tax and Spend for the next two years. Everyone happy?)
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I have heard the same thing and it did hit the news that Dan Boren is leading the charge of the blue dogs to make sure that some key positions are not turned over and is holding back on any support for Pelosi. The article I read was clear that he is not happy with Pelosi or her choice to head the committees which are mostly black caucus members.

Background: When my Cong Tom Cole was selected to be part of the Ethics Committee, he had to give up full time partipation on Armed Services and he asked Dan Boren to take that position to represent Oklahoma. There is a long time tie between David Boren and my Congressman.

The DemocRATs here want Dan Boren out of the DemocRAT Party. If he were a Republican that ACU Rating would be right up there in the 90's IMHO. When key votes are needed, Dan is there. His father was responsible for Clarence Thomas being on the SCOTUS and then as OU President getting rid of Anita Hill from the OU faculty.


29 posted on 11/10/2006 1:07:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Thanks Aggies for your 12th Man!)
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I know the Boren family AND that Tulsa based district which is the only one which really ever gone Dem in the last 15 years. You have to be a blue dog to win it but the Tulsa downtown is basically the San Francisco of Oklahoma. They aren't queer parading holding, anti-American, Christian haters but they do like opera, theatre and lots of public 'infrastructure' on things that the richest citizens tend to enjoy most. If there is such a thing as an elitist in OK, its in downtown Tulsa. But even with that being the case, the district has enough rural counties in it that you can't get an actual liberal in there. But you could get one who would vote for union issues and probably favor 'targetted' tax cuts instead of actual rate cuts.

If all of the democrats were like the Borens, a lot of us would be voting for democrats instead of RINOs like DeWine, Voinovich or Specter. One of the things that allowed the dems to keep the House for 40 years is that most of the actual conservatives were in their party and lived in the South and Midwest. In 1994, we basically cleaned out all but about 10 blue dogs. Now they just doubled their population again.

30 posted on 11/10/2006 1:09:51 PM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
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Boren is a Dem, with all that entails, but he's at least sane and relatively intelligent.

He would be a VASTLY superior alternative to the odious and idiotic Pelosi.


42 posted on 11/10/2006 1:37:13 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (Democrats support a fair voting process in the same way they 'support' the troops.)
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If the D's are smart, they will select somebody other than Pelosi. If her reign as minority leader is any indication, she's completely unequal to the job of Speaker.

A Pelosi speakership translates into a Republican president in '08.

51 posted on 11/10/2006 1:42:29 PM PST by r9etb
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If I were a Republican i'd bring every "blue dog" to the side and tell them they'll run there vote for Nancy the San Fransicko liberal down there throat in 2 years and they and the 200 Republicans bring in a "blue dog" like Boren and take the speakership. That would be awesome.


62 posted on 11/10/2006 1:59:38 PM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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After watching President Bush praise Pelosi as the first woman speaker of the house yesterday, I find it hard to believe this is on the table.

But, I would LOVE to see it. Pelosi used to be annoying, or humorous depending on my mood. In our #3 position she is downright scary.


64 posted on 11/10/2006 2:03:14 PM PST by stevestras
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Hastings has no business anywhere near FOUO let alone Top Secret. If a Defense Investigative Service agent looked at his clearance application, he'd laugh and throw it in the trash. But I forgot, Congresscritters don't need to be bothered with such paltry things.
73 posted on 11/10/2006 4:52:56 PM PST by FlyVet
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meaning that if one-third of the Blue Dogs and the Republicans combine, Boren would be the next speaker.

I thought it was the Majority Party (Democratic Caucus) alone that choose the Speaker

76 posted on 11/10/2006 6:28:50 PM PST by 11th_VA
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Boren is a decent man.

He doesn't have a chance in hell.


79 posted on 11/10/2006 8:00:57 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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