[bpjam]

I know the Boren family AND that Tulsa based district which is the only one which really ever gone Dem in the last 15 years. You have to be a blue dog to win it but the Tulsa downtown is basically the San Francisco of Oklahoma. They aren't queer parading holding, anti-American, Christian haters but they do like opera, theatre and lots of public 'infrastructure' on things that the richest citizens tend to enjoy most. If there is such a thing as an elitist in OK, its in downtown Tulsa. But even with that being the case, the district has enough rural counties in it that you can't get an actual liberal in there. But you could get one who would vote for union issues and probably favor 'targetted' tax cuts instead of actual rate cuts.

If all of the democrats were like the Borens, a lot of us would be voting for democrats instead of RINOs like DeWine, Voinovich or Specter. One of the things that allowed the dems to keep the House for 40 years is that most of the actual conservatives were in their party and lived in the South and Midwest. In 1994, we basically cleaned out all but about 10 blue dogs. Now they just doubled their population again.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

David Boren was the single vote it took to block Clinton's BTU tax. We owe him a great deal.

[Vigilanteman]

Since I do not know the Boren family, I'd be interested in knowing just how much backbone young Dan has. He strikes me as very young (33) to pull anything like this off. Perhaps it is nothing more than a "hail Mary pass" to get Pelosi to come off her high horse and consider the national security implications of putting some of the worst and most untrustworthy characters in congress in charge of such committees.

The MSM charge that the Democrats have to do this to keep the black caucus happy doesn't hold water for two reasons: (1)It's never mattered before because they have always been able to take the black vote for granted, (2)Appointment of Harold Ford, Jr. to take over for Howard Dean would more than compensate for the loss of 2 or 3 committee chairmanships.

Hastings and Dingell could also easily be appointed to chair "Breads and Circuses" type committees or special investiations which would be higher profile and less damaging to national security.

[PhiKapMom]

Tulsa is in Sullivan's district not Boren's. I don't know where you get your info but all of Tulsa is in Congressional District #1 which I just checked to make sure. Dan Boren has NE OK and Little Dixie which is all the way down the eastern side of OK until it meets up with the 4th Congressional district.

I take exception to your comments about Tulsa being like SF because they like the arts.

[PhiKapMom]

Link to the Congressional map for Oklahoma:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=OK

1st district is Tulsa; 2nd district is NE OK and down the eastern side of the state and north of Tulsa; 3rd district is western oklahoma and northern OK meeting up with the 2nd; 4th district is part of OK County and south to the border and across south OK until it meets the 2nd district; and 5th district is most of Oklahoma County and several surrounding counties to the east.

[Osage Orange]

Better check your maps.......

Boren isn't representing T-Town.