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The Democrat Counterrevolution
Townhall ^ | 11/09/06 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 11/10/2006 4:29:40 AM PST by Molly Pitcher

In the end, the Republican "revolution" ran out of gas and out of vision. Too many congressional Republicans appeared to care more about maintaining power than using power to implement an agenda, which they also abandoned.

Republicans reverted to fear tactics about Democrats raising taxes and "cutting and running" from Iraq. Democrats probably will try to raise taxes (they call it "pay as you go") and introduce resolutions to withdraw from Iraq under cover of a "plan" that has little to do with victory. Investigations of the administration will be labeled "oversight," and headed by the most liberal members of the House.

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), a probable 2008 GOP presidential candidate, said on NBC Tuesday night that too many congressional Republicans had not been "careful stewards of taxpayer dollars," nor had they "adhered to conservative principles." He specifically mentioned such spending boondoggles as Alaska's "bridge to nowhere," numerous earmarks, pork barrel spending and scandals. When Republicans behave like Democrats, they lose. Why should people settle for counterfeits when they can have the genuine article?

Republicans can take some solace that President Bush might veto much of the Democrats' stealth agenda, which they hope he will do. Their objective is to win the White House in 2008 and they will turn the tables on the president if he vetoes their agenda, calling him an "obstructionist," a label he has tried to pin on them. The president would be wise to build relationships, at least with the conservative and more moderate Democrats, in hopes of isolating the liberals.

Republicans lost a significant part of their base in this election. Exit polls revealed nearly one-third of white evangelical Christians voted for Democrats, mostly because of perceived corruption in the GOP. They will continue to exercise influence within the Republican Party, but their days of veto power over policy and candidates may be over.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said he wants to cooperate with Republicans and search for common ground. Voters, who have been sickened (again) by corrosive and negative campaign ads, would appreciate that. But Dean has called Republicans "evil," "corrupt" and "brain-dead." That's not the kind of language that is likely to produce conciliation and comity.

One top House Democrat, who asked to remain anonymous until he sees whether his strategy will work, told me he will ask John Boehner, the current Republican majority leader, for permission to address the GOP caucus. The purpose, he says, would be to build a new relationship and reduce inter-party acrimony. Most people would probably wish him well if it results in progress that would benefit the country.

There are serious issues that must be addressed and resolved. Nice talk won't replace important philosophical differences and differing objectives. Most Americans may be tired of the Iraq war, but our enemies are not tired of it. If the United States pulls out of Iraq before Iraqis are trained and equipped to stand on their own against the insurgent terrorists, the terrorists will inherit a base and export terror around the world, including to the United States.

Democrats pledge to do nothing about Social Security, but this is irresponsible because Social Security cannot be sustained without huge tax increases and/or a sharp reduction in benefits. That is a fact that is beyond debate.

The problem for Republicans is their loss of revolutionary zeal. When Newt Gingrich was forced out as speaker, Republicans lost the best idea man they'd had in years. Speaker Dennis Hastert was rarely seen in public (until the Mark Foley scandal) and he has been more of a cautious manager than a bold leader. The retiring Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has been uninspiring. What happened to eloquent Republicans?

Democrats recruited more moderate and even some conservative candidates to blur their left-wing socialist image. But their party leadership is overwhelmingly liberal. They include Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, the latter a self-described "pro-lifer," who voted against the nominations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both presumably pro-life, to the Supreme Court.

Will liberal Democrats, despite all their talk of fiscal conservatism, ethical reform and seeking common ground with Republicans, be able to resist the temptations that come with power and privilege? They didn't when they ran the House for 40 years. Washington and its lobbyists have a way of repaving the road of good intentions for a new majority, as they did with the previous one. But that road can still lead to the same destination.

Good luck, Democrats. You'll need it. You have power now and can't blame Republicans (though you'll try) if you fail.


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To: Dane

The idea that voting for a conservative democrat equates to a change is clear proof that our education system has failed.

Congress runs on seniority, nothing more, nothing less. You get to a leadership position based on the number of years you have been in that particular body.

They newly elected conservative democrats will be seen sitting at the very end of their committees and on the last row in each chamber. Why? Because they are the newest members and those with the absolute least power.

The long term liberals from both coasts are now in the driver seat and they realize that they have between 2 and 6 years to achieve all of their goals - to put their “mark” on this nation. The lower limit is 2 years since that is the next election for members of the house, the upper limit is 6 years because that is the first time the newly elected conservative democratic senators come up for re-election.

This point was made by another Freeper in another posting this morning.


21 posted on 11/10/2006 5:05:53 AM PST by Nip (SPECTRE - taking out the enemy one terrorist at a time; at night; without warning or mercy)
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To: samtheman

The difference between the 1975 betrayal of America's warriors and the 2006 betrayal is that Charlie didn't want to follow us home and kill more of us.

These "conservatives" were actively working to defeat America's warriors. I want them to get the full benefit of their doing so. That's not extreme; it's just.


22 posted on 11/10/2006 5:07:10 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: Molly Pitcher

every revolution nees a SOLUTION.

The only solution that the democrat party put forward is to promise to pose like conservatives but act like democrats.

We will see how much of a DINO is in the DINOs when the AMNESTY bill is put forward.


23 posted on 11/10/2006 5:07:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DugwayDuke

2006 was more 1996 again.

They need a General Newt for the 2008 campaign.


24 posted on 11/10/2006 5:12:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The difference between the 1975 betrayal of America's warriors and the 2006 betrayal is that Charlie didn't want to follow us home and kill more of us.

These "conservatives" were actively working to defeat America's warriors. I want them to get the full benefit of their doing so. That's not extreme; it's just.

Your first paragraph is 100% correct.

And it's true that many people in America, both dhimmicrats and "Republicans" are useful idiots for the Jihad.

But in the case of those you label "conservative", I think perhaps that they erred tactically, not stategically. Unlike RINOs and RATs, those conservatives who lost sight of the big electoral picture and concentrated on in-house bickering, were not "actively working to defeat America's warriors".

I know the effect is the same, but the intention is different. Does that difference not matter to you?

And aren't you unduly contributing to in-house bickering yourself, by publicly wishing radiation death for people who are, essentially, on the same side as us?

That's what I mean by "extreme".

25 posted on 11/10/2006 5:18:47 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Santorum still had people sore about Toomey from Specter's Primary in the last midterm....plus, he was getting a little to cozy with Hillary every now and then, that his conservative base told him to go take a hike.


26 posted on 11/10/2006 5:20:41 AM PST by paltz
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To: paltz
Santorum still had people sore about Toomey from Specter's Primary in the last midterm....plus, he was getting a little to cozy with Hillary every now and then, that his conservative base told him to go take a hike.
Thanks. I didn't know. You and others are providing good answers to my question. I'm glad I asked it. Long live FR!
27 posted on 11/10/2006 5:21:56 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Molly Pitcher

Cal almost gets it .. but he's not there yet

We need to fact the fact .. besides the pubbies and their problems

The Dems out smarted us and they played us


28 posted on 11/10/2006 5:23:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: samtheman
Unlike RINOs and RATs, those conservatives who lost sight of the big electoral picture and concentrated on in-house bickering, were not "actively working to defeat America's warriors".

I know the effect is the same, but the intention is different. Does that difference not matter to you?

No, it doesn't--because they knew the price tag for that brand of a$$-hatting going in.

And aren't you unduly contributing to in-house bickering yourself, by publicly wishing radiation death for people who are, essentially, on the same side as us?

They're either with our warriors, or they are against them. There is no other option. I wish death upon the enemies of America. Unfortunately, that category now includes about 31,000,000 folks who voted Tuesday.

29 posted on 11/10/2006 5:23:11 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I wish death upon the enemies of America. Unfortunately, that category now includes about 31,000,000 folks who voted Tuesday.
And that, my friend, is pretty much the definition of extremism. In a nutshell.

You've got some good facts you're working with, but your conclusions are unsound.

30 posted on 11/10/2006 5:25:16 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Molly Pitcher

Being from PA, I think the whole school internet thing turned people off too especially in Western PA. I just heard alot of complaints about that while visiting my grandparents hometown. Fair or not people did not like Pennsylvania giving him a "check" so his kids could go to school in Virginia regardless of whether he paid taxes or not.


31 posted on 11/10/2006 5:25:37 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Molly Pitcher
I really find it hard to believe that Evangelicals would vote for the party that promotes murder of the unborn.

You can't be what you claim to be if that's the case.
32 posted on 11/10/2006 5:25:46 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Molly Pitcher
In the end, the Republican "revolution" ran out of gas and out of vision. Too many congressional Republicans appeared to care more about maintaining power than using power to implement an agenda, which they also abandoned.

In a nutshell.

Rush Limbaugh also called it when he said Americans are basically a conservative people and the democrats, especially and only when campaigning for office, know that better than do the republicans.
33 posted on 11/10/2006 5:28:15 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: samtheman

He's far right for a blue state...and all of his elections were close calls. By running a pro-life son of a famous PA name, the Dems were able to knock him out. A big part of this elections was great candidate selections by the Dems. They handpicked candidates that could neutralize strong conservative positions in districts/states to bring some of the middle and middle left back over to their side.


34 posted on 11/10/2006 5:30:27 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: samtheman
It's an interesting theory, and one that many of us conservatives are clinging to, but how does it explain the election loss of Rick Santorum?

The Dems learned how to play the PR game

They knew to stick together even though most of their candidates were running as conservatives

Have ya noticed how the NOW hags and NARL knew to shut their traps during the election process while the likes of Casey, jr went around claiming he was pro-life

Notice how we didn't hear the women in Hollywood screaming at rallies about how Bob Casey was going to rape women if he was elected

The Dems also knew to keep their traps shuts

They won this election for many reasons One of them being the fact they sat back and let our side do the complaining and ripping apart the Republicans for them

Don't get me wrong .. I'm not saying we should back off and go easy on the pubbies

But we sure as heck need to look outside the box to see how we lost this election

35 posted on 11/10/2006 5:31:03 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: PA-RIVER
The Soccer Mom has kids getting old enough for war, and they do not like it.

Very true, and the key to the whole election. This is no longer a country capable of fighting The Long War. Bush and Rumsfeld never understood that.

36 posted on 11/10/2006 5:31:55 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: samtheman
but how does it explain the election loss of Rick Santorum?

I dont see any mystery here.

A large percentage of Republicans were depressed over the Iraq war, and subconsciously want to see it end.

Rick was one of the biggest supporters of the war. As am I.

We just have to face the fact that not all conservatives think Iraq is worth the price in blood.

I apologize if you've read this in my other posts, but I spoke to many people at the polls on Tuesday (as a volunteer) and quickly realized that Republicans were reluctant, practically embarassed to argue in favor of having hundreds and thousands of American men and women killed, with no end in sight.

In retrospect, I believe Bush should have set a target end date, and been more forceful about it.

Say.... 2007.

Firstly, if the terrorists insurgents opted to wait...GREAT. The violence would subside.

If things changed, Bush always could push BACK the date when the time comes.

But at least it would have given Republicans, myself also, some hope that this will not be a never ending support of a Muslim civil war.

37 posted on 11/10/2006 5:31:56 AM PST by Edit35
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To: nyconse
Santorum went in in 94 on an ant-Clinton wave. He was always to liberal for PA.

Santorum was too liberal for a state that keeps electing Arlen Specter?

Dude, whatever you're smoking, pass it around.

38 posted on 11/10/2006 5:34:39 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: KosmicKitty
I really find it hard to believe that Evangelicals would vote for the party that promotes murder of the unborn.

Many may have been Evangelicals .. but I don't think they were republicans .. more like 3rd party

39 posted on 11/10/2006 5:34:44 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: PA-RIVER
"Soccer Mom", again.

I hate to be repetative, but as long as the bulk of the sheepsh%t media continue to promote the claim that the Democratic party is "for" women, then easily-duped women will continue to flock to the Dems.

I wish I had a solution, but I need another cup of coffee first.

40 posted on 11/10/2006 5:40:04 AM PST by Edit35
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