Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Rush Limbaugh Has It Wrong
Logic Times ^ | 11-9-2006 | Dan Hallagan

Posted on 11/09/2006 9:38:57 PM PST by Logic Times

Rush Limbaugh has it wrong. He stated Wednesday that "[c]onservatism did not lose, Republicanism lost last night. Republicanism, being a political party first, rather than an ideological movement, is what lost last night." (here) This statement – a statement echoed by Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and other conservative pundits to whom a nation of shell-shocked conservatives turned for cathartic analysis – fails a simple test. If the electorate was demanding conservatism, then why did strong, principled conservatives lose? Incumbent conservatives such as Rick Santorum, George Allen, J.D. Hayworth and Curt Weldon to name a few. Superb conservative newcomers such as Ken Blackwell and Michael Steele.

The actions of the electorate last Tuesday was an indiscriminate firing of Republicans, not a thoughtful weeding out of RINOs. It is true that Republicanism lost on Tuesday, but it lost in all its forms – and that included the exact form of strong, clear conservatism that the movement desperately needs.

(Excerpt) Read more at logictimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; democrat; election; rush
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280281-294 next last
To: Fledermaus
IF (a big IF) the GOP has any balls left they'll use the same Senate rules the Dems used for the last six years to stop things and filibuster the crap out of changes.

Yea well thats the problem isn't it....

241 posted on 11/10/2006 9:51:58 AM PST by Gone_Postal (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..right next to the mashed potatoes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: The Hollywood Conservative

I agree that, as voters, we must vote for the candidate who mostly closely represents our views. That should not mean, however, that we seek out candidates with positions we don't agree with when there are candidates who hold positions closer those we espouse, simply because they might be more electable. And I especially detest the idea of "molding" (i.e., lying about) one's positions on issues for the purpose of getting elected. It may be a naive position, but I still expect integrity of those who represent me. I'd rather know that my elected representative truly believes in what he says, even if I disagree, thank to know that he is just saying what I want to hear, but doesn't believe it.


242 posted on 11/10/2006 10:05:55 AM PST by NCLaw441
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 231 | View Replies]

To: The Hollywood Conservative

I think Rudy would take MN.


243 posted on 11/10/2006 10:31:58 AM PST by Echo Talon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 214 | View Replies]

To: BlackbirdSST
Rudy? Then get used to life in the minority. Blackbird.

Lets see, will he be nominated? IF not I'll vote for whoever except McCain

244 posted on 11/10/2006 10:40:32 AM PST by Echo Talon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 203 | View Replies]

To: kingu

2 words: Ballot Initiatives.


245 posted on 11/10/2006 10:42:38 AM PST by Julliardsux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Logic Times

The fact is, the majority of the American public are ignorant headline readers and all they know is Republicans:

-Are against the right to "choose."
-Hate minorities, especially blacks.
-Are hopelessly homophobic.
-Kill baby seals, every fish in the see and Caribou.
-Worship the rich and hate the poor.
-All belong to exclusive country clubs.
-Believe woman should not be allowed to work.
-Are stupid because they don't get their news from Letterman and John Stewart.

Etc.


246 posted on 11/10/2006 11:05:08 AM PST by subterfuge (Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MHGinTN

The election is solidly behind us now. It is what it is. Staying focused on an election gone by makes we conservatives look like whiners crying in our beer. Ironically, the best thing we can do for the time being is to sit back and let the looney left pols go overboard with power. That furthers our cause like nothing else. Once the left gets knee deep in oppressive politics (it will not take long), we conservatives must loudly beat the drum to moderate Dim and Pub voters until the 2008 elections. Moderate voters must be kept constantly aware of how and why the leftist policies are so anti-American and dangerous. That is what will put Pubs back in power in 2008.


247 posted on 11/10/2006 11:28:00 AM PST by CountryBumpkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 229 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

god help us. I hope SC dumps Graham in the '08 primary.


248 posted on 11/10/2006 3:40:26 PM PST by Fledermaus (I did my part in Tennessee...what's with the rest of the country?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: joesbucks

Exit polls are showing a lot that did because they were seen as the most conservative candidate. And given the way many in the GOP have governed they probably were.


249 posted on 11/10/2006 3:42:06 PM PST by Fledermaus (I did my part in Tennessee...what's with the rest of the country?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 213 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus

I do, too. He is only one step away from declaring himself a Dem, except IMO he's holding out to be McCain's Veep pick.... only McCain will not be our pick so, yes, I hope Graham is gone in 08... we are already down and out, so purge the RINO's once and for all.... they don't have to be hard righties, but damn it all they should support the GOP and none of this gang of 14 stuff.


250 posted on 11/10/2006 8:17:24 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 248 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus

Can you help me with a source for this?


251 posted on 11/10/2006 8:23:50 PM PST by joesbucks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 249 | View Replies]

To: Liberty Valance
Speaking the truth, you are.
252 posted on 11/10/2006 8:35:42 PM PST by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: MaineVoter2002

I like J.D's chances when the 23% of the vote is counted, represented by 100K absentee ballots.


253 posted on 11/10/2006 8:41:13 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: unspun
LoL... that def is so meaningless it fits perfectly in this situation. "Republican" has no specific definition beyond "anti-royalist" and "anti-monarchical." Forming a party around that has no meaning in the modern world (and it certainly isn't conservative). It used to be the abolition party, then the party of reform, then the party of industry, then for a long time nothing until it became the party of anti-socialism/communism (which if you ask me is ironic and I think was partly, at least originally, a faux agenda merely as a response to the democrats, who seemed to be the party FOR socialism & communism.) "Conservatism" hasn't ever been a practical platform as such, because it's ambiguous. Evidently the public isn't buying the "party of anti-terrorism."
254 posted on 11/10/2006 8:42:43 PM PST by Pelayo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper

Alan Keyes organization, renewamerica.xx, obviously is okay with calling Rush out for being a Republican shill.

Apparently it's okay to be a Republican candidate--you just can't shill for one.


255 posted on 11/10/2006 8:47:15 PM PST by unsycophant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 236 | View Replies]

To: kingu
Actually the long and short of it is that continued resolve and honest talk about things being long and tough are no substitute for outright victory, and the American people will accept nothing less. And no, they really don't know or care about the historical consequences or the alternatives. If the US military fires shots in anger, they are expected to win outright and all guns to be put away on all sides, before a full electoral cycle has past.

Which isn't up to us unilaterally, but that won't stop the people from pretending and acting as though it is.

256 posted on 11/10/2006 8:51:06 PM PST by JasonC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper

The Republicans have been changing things since they got in...the changes were too much too fast.

Some people wanted change..back to the status quo.

Plus the unions went ballistic this time...

http://blog.aflcio.org/2006/11/08/the-union-votes-the-difference/


257 posted on 11/10/2006 8:54:32 PM PST by eleni121 (sometimes you have to cut off the limb to save the body)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ashtanga

I agree. The Pauls now outnumber the Peters.


258 posted on 11/10/2006 8:56:27 PM PST by 38special (I mean come'on.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Logic Times
"[c]onservatism did not lose, Republicanism lost last night. Republicanism, being a political party first, rather than an ideological movement, is what lost last night"

Translation: We need to somehow win back our base

259 posted on 11/10/2006 8:57:14 PM PST by Fraulein
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Logic Times

Rush echoed today what Charles Krathmauer already said, the country isn't becoming more liberal, its becoming more conservative. Let the record show that Charles had it right, first.


260 posted on 11/10/2006 8:57:58 PM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280281-294 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson