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Spot-on report describes 3-missile attack (on TWA 800)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9 November 2006 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/09/2006 9:04:16 AM PST by Hal1950

This week I received a communication from retired United Airline Capt. Ray Lahr. It contained two items of great interest – one dollop of good legal news and one unexpected and truly incredible report.

The legal news concerned Ray's success in Los Angeles District Court after years of "long and lonely and expensive" effort. Judge Howard Matz had succinctly mandated that "Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shall produce to plaintiff the material set forth in Exhibit A and the National Transportation Safety Board shall produce to plaintiff the material set forth in Exhibit B." Significantly, the judge also authorized Lahr attorney John Clarke to file for fees and costs. This is a definite win.

Lahr has been suing for release of the information that the two agencies in question had used to produce their notorious zoom-climb animation subsequent to the 1996 downing of TWA Flight 800 over Long Island – animation that was used to discredit the testimony of hundreds of eyewitnesses, many of them military and aviation personnel. Lahr sees this animation as the Achilles' heel of a consciously skewed investigation, and in this he is correct.

Lahr also sent me a CD review of the case titled merely "TWA Flight 800 Crash Evidence Review," which I will hereafter refer to as "the Review." Before I finished reading it, I sent Lahr an e-mail, which read in part:

"Brilliant work on your explication. I am only halfway through it, but I am totally impressed. Everything else that has gone before it is the work of amateurs, mine included."

The message I got back from Lahr, however, floored me. He did not write this report. He received it anonymously in the mail. I was stunned. The Review in question is the most sophisticated piece of investigative reporting that I have ever read on this or any other crash. The unknown author likely put years into this work. He surely comes from within the aviation community, which may explain his desire for anonymity. He argues crisply, patiently and comprehensively. He provides ample illustration of his contentions and rarely, if ever, does he exceed his knowledge base.

Most impressive is his knowing synthesis of all the available evidence – radar, eyewitness, physical, audio, GPS, debris field – to recreate in detail the flight taken and damage done by each of the missiles fired at TWA Flight 800. What is more, the author uses only the evidence that was available to the National Transportation Safety Board to reach conclusions that they should have reached with the same data.

The Review author believes that based on the debris field alone, "the administration would have known within the first two weeks after the crash that missiles brought down the aircraft." Although prudent in his accusations, he strongly suspects that the long delay in recovering the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder indicates that the decision to misdirect the investigation "actually occurred the night of the disaster." With this conclusion, I fully concur.

No one who reads this Review can doubt for a moment that the government has engaged in a massive misdirection in the gathering of evidence. Every major media outlet owes it to its audience to assign its best technical writer to read and review this work. The one CD includes the entire NTSB report as well.

To make things simple, I will happily provide a copy of the entire Review to any interested major media party. The author asked that the information be shared. Interested observers, who are willing to identify themselves, can obtain a pdf copy of Part I of the Review by contacting me through my website, .

In the weeks to come, I will break down the information into manageable chunks. For now, allow me to summarize the author's approach. The Review is divided into four parts. Each of the first three parts is dedicated to the destructive path of one given missile.

In the way of example, the author argues that the first of the three was a large surface-to-air missile launched from 16 to 22 miles west of the crash site. The missile approached the aircraft on a descending track from the rear and struck it without exploding. The author is very specific in his detail, to wit, "This impact broke the horizontal stabilizer pitch trim jackscrew in tension and caused the aircraft to pitch upward." Not all the writing is this technical, but where specifics are needed, the author does not shy from providing them.

The fourth part, and the one least supported by existing evidence, is dedicated to other unidentified objects in the sky that night. The author makes the public relations mistake of calling them UFOs. What he means are unidentified aircraft. They do not come from outer space. I will call them UACs.

In the book "First Strike," James Sanders and I argue that a UAC may very well have been in the mix, and that UAC may have been a terrorist plane. The author, too, believes that a UAC was in the mix as well as three missiles, but he does not believe that the UAC was a manned aircraft. He makes a compelling argument that the UAC information that the FBI gathered was so hot that it was simply not allowed in to the official record. Every now and then, however, some information bled in accidentally. The most obvious example of the same was a photo taken by Linda Kabot that seemed to show a slender cylindrical object flying away from the scene of the crash.

Wisely, the author refrains from saying who fired the missiles or launched the aircraft, although the evidence strongly leads away from anything but a highly sophisticated military operation. It is possible that terrorist involvement may have gone no deeper than warnings given and credit claimed. Someone in Washington knows just how deep that involvement was.

The author argues that an independent panel from outside Washington is essential to conduct a new investigation. "Otherwise," he contends, "the same insider influences in both political parties, who have prevented the truth from being revealed previously, would control the investigation's outcome."

In the best of all possible worlds, Ray Lahr's case may just crack open the official door.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: flight800; tinfoilalert; twa800; twaflight800
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To: Rokke
And in my experience, it is nearly impossible to tell at 20 miles out, whether an aircraft is +/- 2000 feet of your altitude, or in the middle of climbing through your altitude. Especially when all you see of that aircraft is its landing light.

I guess I'm really surprised you say this. If the light is above the horizon, he's above you; and if it's below he's below you. Right on the horizon, Watch out! You certainly know this. Reading the McClaine transcript, it seems to me that his estimates were pretty good. (Of course, they could have been helped by talk on the frequency he was monitoring.)


Think about that for a second. If he could see TWA 800, he could also see anything described as a "streak of light" that hit it. He was 20 miles away and just over 1000 feet above TWA 800. At 20 miles, he could easily see all the way down to the water below TWA 800.

I guess you didn't read the transcript.

And I didn't see any previous explosion. I'm not -- I don't rule that out. Because of the angle he was down below me, the fuselage and the wing could have blocked that out ... (p.17)
But thanks for providing the link to the transcript. It's interesting to me that it was pretty much like the conversation I had with McClaine, except that I never asked the same question more than two times! It's also interesting that they did press him about whether anything went upward at any time after he began to see combustion, but the part of the transcript the NTSB thought was important to include in their report was that it took him ten seconds or so to report the explosion after he first saw it. Doesn't this bother you?

You can answer, but this is getting old for me. I'll let you have the last word. As for Meyers, I found this Qctober 1997 report:

Meyer said he cannot say the object that struck the Boeing 747 was a missile, but is convinced he saw an "ordnance explosion" burst near the plane just before it blossomed into a deadly fireball.
This really isn't very different from what he said in the NTSB transcript. I thought the reason he had difficulty saying for sure that it was a missile was that it didn't look like any of the missiles he was familiar with from 20 or more years ago. I'm not sure what your problem is with him.

ML/NJ

281 posted on 11/13/2006 6:30:38 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: rootntootn
My question has always been "who on that airplane did Clinton want dead"?

I am quite prepared to believe this was a shootdown, as George Snuffleupagous called it during a gab-show after 9/11. But why so much effort (three missiles and maybe a chase plane as well) to destroy this particular plane...and while I would not be surprised to learn it was an arkancide, what if it was someone else?

282 posted on 11/13/2006 6:41:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ml/nj
"If the light is above the horizon, he's above you; and if it's below he's below you. Right on the horizon, Watch out! You certainly know this."

Trying to determine accurate information with respect to altitude or range from a single source of light is one of the top killers of pilots flying at night. There was about 2000 feet of altitude difference between McClaine's aircraft and TWA800. At the distance they were apart that is a difference of less than 1.5 degrees. McClaine's airplane was both descending and turning when TWA800 exploded. The motion of his aircraft only compounds the difficulty in accurately assessing anything but the bearing of the light in his windscreen. I spent a majority of my years in the F-16 training to fly night attack missions. I was a night vision goggle instructor pilot and flew most of my combat missions at night. Now I fly for FedEx...mostly at night. I would never bet my life on what my eyeballs were telling me at night.

"I guess you didn't read the transcript."

I did. McClaine specifically says he never saw any part of TWA800 but its landing light. See my explaination above for how far down he was actually looking at TWA 800. At his range, if he could see TWA 800, he could see anything approaching it from below.

"Doesn't this bother you?"

They published the whole transcript of his interview. What exactly do you think they are attempting to hide?

"I'm not sure what your problem is with him."

He's changed his story over time. He now states TWA800 was shot down by a missile. Yet, as an actual eyewitness to its destruction, he is on record as saying he saw nothing that indicated a missile caused the explosion. And I would be willing to bet if you played video of various types of explosions, Meyers couldn't identify a "pyro" explosion from any other type of explosion at the ranges he was at from TWA800. Furthermore, if he did witness a missile explosion, than the "missile" exploded outside TWA800. By design, an exploding missile warhead would shower TWA800 with thousands of pieces of shrapnel. Yet, despite experts from Boeing, TWA, ALPA, the FBI and the NTSB specifically looking for any evidence of an external explosion happening anywhere near TWA800, they all concluded no evidence could be found.

283 posted on 11/14/2006 12:42:36 PM PST by Rokke
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To: All

Jack Cashill mow indicates he is emailing Part II of the Review to those who request it at jcashill.aol.com.


284 posted on 11/16/2006 12:02:29 PM PST by Hal1950
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To: Non-Sequitur

I don’t loathe the military at all. I loathe Clinton. There is nothing they won’t do for power. Nothing. See Stalin.


285 posted on 04/10/2008 3:40:46 AM PDT by rootntootn (Kerry lied, millions died)
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To: rootntootn
I don’t loathe the military at all. I loathe Clinton. There is nothing they won’t do for power. Nothing. See Stalin.

But it's the military who you claim shot down the aircraft and covered it up.

286 posted on 04/10/2008 3:53:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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