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Conservatism Was Not Defeated
Human Events Online ^ | 9 November 2006 | Ivy J. Sellers

Posted on 11/08/2006 9:40:09 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

When Americans voted to put Democrats in power Tuesday, they did not reject conservatism but the Republican establishment and its big-spending habit.

"It [the election] was not a repudiation of conservative ideas or values," said Pat Toomey, president of the Club for Growth, a PAC that backs fiscal conservatives for Congress. "It was a rejection of the Republican Party, in part, we believe, for having failed to commit itself to the conservative ideas that are at the core of the coalition that elected Republicans."

While Toomey acknowledged that the Iraq war, coupled with President Bush's low approval ratings and six-year run of full Republican power contributed to the devastating loss, he said the biggest problem was the GOP's abandonment of the core principle of conservativism: the idea of limited government.

Toomey said it's this principle that unifies the Republican coalition -- fiscal conservatives, the libertarians, social conservatives and foreign policy and defense hawks -- because it’s where they all find common ground.

"When Republicans abandon that that central idea, it shouldn't be surprising that they demoralize their own base and they drive Independents and swing Democrats away," Toomey said.

The Club for Growth's internal polls leading up to the election showed public disgust with the bloated size of government, sending many voters over the edge to vote for Democrats. They see Republicans as the party of big government and are upset that GOP leaders didn't enact the fiscal discipline many in office originally stood for.

Americans' willingness to support fiscal conservatives over establishment spenders is evident in the success of the Club for Growth's candidates this election cycle, five of whom are incoming freshmen headed straight for the Republican Study Committee (RSC), the largest conservative caucus in Congress.

Similarly, Rep. Jeff Flake (R.-Ariz.), one of the few true fiscal hawks in Congress, told bloggers on a conference call Wednesday that it wasn’t all the scandals and unhappiness with the war that brought the GOP down.

"Earmarking really came back to bite us. I think we Republicans simply lost our brand name," he said. "We are no longer considered to be the party of limited government and that came back to hurt us badly."

Sen. Tom Coburn (R.-Okla.), who has shamed many of his congressional colleagues for pointing out their pork-barrel spending sprees, said the results should be interpreted as a "total failure of big government conservatism."

Illustrating his point, Coburn said, "Republicans oversaw a seven-fold increase in pork projects since 1998. Republicans increased domestic spending by nearly 50% since 2001, increased the national debt to $9 trillion, passed a reckless Medicare expansion bill and neglected our oversight responsibilities.

"While some of these decisions may have helped secure specific seats in the short-term the totality of our excess did not secure our majority, but destroy it."

Rep. Jeb Hensarling, budget and spending taskforce chairman of the RSC, said he thinks the loss in Congress will draw Republicans back to their conservative roots, given that their excessive pork projects didn't get them very far.

"Instead, over the last several years, Republicans have experimented with big government, and we have now seen the result," Hensarling said. "The Bridge to Nowhere has led us here. The era of Republican big government is over."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; election06; gop
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Any chance the GOP hasn't yet got the message?
1 posted on 11/08/2006 9:40:10 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

oh well get over it.


2 posted on 11/08/2006 9:44:16 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Aussie Dasher

Neoconservatism was defeated. Neoconservatism was originally a liberal idea in the first place. Big government nation-building has no place in conservatism.


3 posted on 11/08/2006 9:45:20 PM PST by diesel00
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To: Aussie Dasher

Well, pardon my relentless and annoying optimism...

This *might* have a good thing hiding in it somewhere. Now that the Dems are in power, America is about to get screwed...which...MAY help our chances in '08!


4 posted on 11/08/2006 9:46:11 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Aussie Dasher

"When Americans voted to put Democrats in power Tuesday, they did not reject conservatism but the Republican establishment and its big-spending habit."


Truer words and all that.


5 posted on 11/08/2006 9:46:53 PM PST by BLS (If it breathes, tax it, and if it stops breathing, find its children and tax them (DNC))
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To: Aussie Dasher

"Sen. Tom Coburn (R.-Okla.), who has shamed many of his congressional colleagues for pointing out their pork-barrel spending sprees, said the results should be interpreted as a "total failure of big government conservatism."


I love this man.

(ahem) in a totallty platonic...admiration sort of way.


6 posted on 11/08/2006 9:48:23 PM PST by BLS (If it breathes, tax it, and if it stops breathing, find its children and tax them (DNC))
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"When Americans voted to put Democrats in power Tuesday, they did not reject conservatism but the Republican establishment and its big-spending habit."

I feel like banging my head against a wall. Was I the ONLY ONE who heard Schumer say the administration gave the Dems everything they wanted (in order to get funding for Iraq)?

7 posted on 11/08/2006 9:48:50 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

PErhaps. That being said there are many reasons for this loss. Also to be quite honest for what is being styled as message to COnservative it would seem if that was true then why was this not seen on a much more National Level. FOr instance in Texas there was really only one seat in contention. In my home state there were no Republican seats in danger.

Also, it fails to note why some big conservatives went down this election. For instance look at Missouri.


8 posted on 11/08/2006 9:51:49 PM PST by catholicfreeper (Geaux Tigers SEC FOOTBALL ROCKS)
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These guys are right. Yeah most of us in the "base" voted Republican anyway. What happened was the middle ground voters, the conservative democrats originally brought in by Reagan saw spending, wrong headed ness about immigration and pork and yeah corruption and said the hell with them.

Its only 2 years, hunker down and let the Democrats implode as you know they will as they try to juggle all their disparate constituencies.


9 posted on 11/08/2006 9:52:36 PM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: Aussie Dasher

Why should conservatives feel defeated...they were out voting to keep the Democrats from power. They did their jobs.


10 posted on 11/08/2006 9:53:59 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: diesel00
Big government nation-building has no place in conservatism.

That's a very respectable statement. Forget the label neoconservatism. The USA cannot abandon the security role it has played in the world since WWII, though other nations like China with North Korea have got to start carrying their weight.

President Bush never backed down from being opposed to nation-building as conceived by wide-eyed liberals. The USA engages with the Middle East because it is a real danger that cannot be ignored by withdrawing into "Fortress America." It is the same reason we engaged the Cold War.

It is a long war, and there will be battles lost. Two horrific regimes were eliminated, and, what do you know, there are still horrific forces in the region. Nation building in these two instances is responding to an emergency.

11 posted on 11/08/2006 9:56:47 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: USAFJeeper

Not a bad point but what concerns me is our men and women in harm's way, seems like many have just forgotten them altogether and they have the MOST to lose...


12 posted on 11/08/2006 9:58:31 PM PST by brushcop (Men of B-Co 2/69 3ID, do you now feel betrayed after all your efforts & sacrifices in Iraq?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Conservatism cannot be defeated when it is not represented by candidates on the ballot. And it does not look like there is a conservative candidate even on the horizon to be on the Presidential ballot in 2008.


13 posted on 11/08/2006 10:01:35 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Nancy Knows Best.

14 posted on 11/08/2006 10:02:02 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: brushcop
Too many people treat the war like it's a mini-series and they've turned the channel...it's not real to them, neither are our troops.

I've seen lots of rejoicing (as one person said, "We taught the GOP a lessons"), and some who say the war is a minor issue that doesn't compete with their cause. Few people have even considered the impact on the troops.

15 posted on 11/08/2006 10:02:31 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Aussie Dasher

In 2008, this is how we can retake the Senate

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735336/posts


16 posted on 11/08/2006 10:08:27 PM PST by staytrue (Tancredo/Buchanan for 2008-All RINOS MUST GO)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Instead, over the last several years, Republicans have experimented with big government, and we have now seen the result," Hensarling said. "The Bridge to Nowhere has led us here. The era of Republican big government is over."

Well, yeah, that's because we've re-enetered the era of Democrat big government.

If Republicans want voters to even consider believing them they will have to start by refusing ANY pork from here on it. By refusing Big government programs from here on out. I have my doubts Republicans have it in them.

17 posted on 11/08/2006 10:09:09 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: CWOJackson
When Americans voted to put Democrats in power Tuesday, they did not reject conservatism but the Republican establishment and its big-spending habit.

This is such BS. Wait until they see democrats spend! It's been 12 years. Memories are short.

We were defeated by 365, 24/7 pounding and bashing of POTUS and the war in Iraq by MSM in collusion with democrats.

People love their entitlements and government spending. They just want it spent on them and not on the war in Iraq.

18 posted on 11/08/2006 10:13:52 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: onyx

Yep. I don't know any conservatives who didn't vote Tuesday and who didn't vote Republican. They might not have agreed totally with their Republican candidate but they understood the alternative.


19 posted on 11/08/2006 10:16:21 PM PST by CWOJackson
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