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To: quidnunc

What a great liberal title... "Libertarians Emerge as a Force (Losertarians deep-six the GOP)"

Nothing like blaming the Libertarians for the Republicans not following principle enough.


5 posted on 11/08/2006 2:32:07 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Careful, the Bushbots won’t tolerate dissent.


43 posted on 11/08/2006 2:47:31 PM PST by illbenice
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To: Gondring

LOL -- FR today is worse than DU for goofball attempts to shift blame for a political fiasco. What next; dark murmurings about Diebold?


67 posted on 11/08/2006 2:59:59 PM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Gondring
Wow, I didn't know that. The reason the Republicans became complacent, arrogant, and corrupt...the reason they did nothing to make the tax cuts permanent...or drill in ANWR...or do anything meaningful about illegal immigration...the reason for the Highway Bill, the Farm Bill, Campaign Finance, nothing on eminent domain...their inept handling of the Foley scandal and the Ney scandal...the fact that they screwed the pooch and alienated their base...IT WAS ALL THE LIBERTARIANS' FAULT!

Of course. Why didn't I think of that? Anything for some people has to be better than admitting the truth.
152 posted on 11/08/2006 4:44:05 PM PST by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: Gondring

Name me one liberitarian who was electable and had a chance of winning a national or state election. All you people do is suck off conservative votes and allow more rats to get elected. If Libertarians had anything going for them at all, they would run as Republicans in state elections and oust the Rinos.

You can relax, sit back, and say they screwed up, as you screw up the system.


374 posted on 11/08/2006 10:42:54 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Gondring
Nothing like blaming the Libertarians for the Republicans not following principle enough.

They'll lay blame anywhere, but where it should be laid. Losers always do. Blackbird.

392 posted on 11/09/2006 4:03:03 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: Gondring
Obviously the best thing to do here is to shift blame to the libertarians for Republi(cough RINO)can caused losses. Isn't that what the liberals do, it is never their own fault. It is always someone else's. Never take responsibility.

This whole libertarian thing today is a reason why changes need to be made to voting laws. My vote terminates on the winner or the loser. There is a perverse incentive built into the system not to vote for the candidate I prefer and an incentive to vote for the lesser of two evils both of whom I'd rather not vote for at all.

Votes should cascade down a ranking of candidates. For example, say there are constitution party, libertarian party, democrat, republican, socialist---candidates, whose names coincidentally are initialed, C, L, D, R, S, respectively. I want to determine the ranking of the successful candidate who gets my vote. So I rank accordingly. C, L, R. Democrat, socialist, candidates will not get my vote under any condition. If Democrat wins he wins with someone else's vote. If the C, L, R, candidate wins, it is because one of them got my vote. I rank C #1, L #2, R #3.

The votes for C get counted and he loses, my vote doesn't die, it gets inherited by #2: L. He wins and it stops there or he loses and #3: R inherits my vote.

This system would provide incentive to vote for the person you want as #1 without worry that you are throwing your vote away or are taking votes away from the lesser of two evils the only two viable candidates. This system would grant viability to 3rd party candidates who deserve to have some without robbing viability from the two who seem to monopolize it. It would equalize their chances in the fairest possible way. We should be able to implement this system without undermining the electoral college system. Of course when I refer to voting for C, L, or R, I am talking about the delegates.

398 posted on 11/09/2006 4:39:06 AM PST by Jason_b
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