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MSNBC/AP Bulletin: Rumsfeld Steps Down
MSNBC/AP | 11.8.06

Posted on 11/08/2006 9:51:57 AM PST by mhking

This is just crossing my desk now; nothing follows yet. According to some sources this is the subject of the noon presser.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: buhbyerummy; freepersactinglikedu; lameduckprez; rumsfeld; yikes
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To: uncbob

He used to. I used to believe him.


461 posted on 11/08/2006 10:49:05 AM PST by ilovew ("I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American." --Daniel Webster)
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To: uncbob

I agree with you - I've always felt that one of W.'s greatest faults was not dealing with the Clinton shadow goverment.


462 posted on 11/08/2006 10:49:16 AM PST by linear (Taxonomy is a willing and pliant mistress but Reality waits at home, sharpening her knife.)
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To: Texaggie79
Glad he waited till we lost.....

Dunno if you were being sarcastic or not, but your thought was also my first gut-reaction.

Would more Republicans have been able to win/retain their seats if Bush had let Rummie go awhile before the election? It seems like the talking heads are saying that Iraq was the reason a lot of prominent Republicans lost.

Not that I believe everything the talking heads say, but we really lost more seats than all but the democrats thought we would.

463 posted on 11/08/2006 10:50:03 AM PST by spookycc (Never Forgive! Never Forget!)
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To: MineralMan

Ah, I just thought of something that would shock me even more... the President switching parties.

Wouldn't that be a gut-buster?

* relax * I'm just musing on what would shock me more at this point.


464 posted on 11/08/2006 10:50:06 AM PST by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: MinuteGal
sorry, "over-eager at too detailes" should read "over-eager and too detailed with his answers."

I think I'm too wired just like the Prez today.

Leni

465 posted on 11/08/2006 10:50:13 AM PST by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers, keep up with FL politics & freeps on our state forum. To access it, freepmail me.)
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To: CedarDave

I am over it already.

Having read a lot of posts on this thread that are making me VERY angry...I AM over it.

WOW...Pres. Bush comes out the day after he probably lost both houses of Congress...after a killer schedule of campaigning...and years of being called every name in the book.

And what do I read on FR??? Criticisms of how he is SOUNDING TODAY!!!

Jeez louise...what do freepers expect????

I am oughta here.


466 posted on 11/08/2006 10:50:32 AM PST by Txsleuth (EVERYONE VOTE---AND VOTE REPUBLICAN,...even if you have to hold your nose!)
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To: dinodino
I hate to say it, but Mr. Bush really made his bed. Now he has to lie in it.

Yep he learned nothing from how the dems treated his father

Maybe he should have fed Tedy more popcorn
467 posted on 11/08/2006 10:50:48 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Chena

God I'm just sick to my stomach today. I'm glad my college class was shortened cuz I don't know if I could have handled the liberal glee being put on display by the younger, less informed, students.


468 posted on 11/08/2006 10:51:45 AM PST by pctech
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To: MinuteGal

Oh well, the truth is that it wouldn't have mattered in the end. The MSM would have cut 'n snipped any comments made by the President anyhow, and twisted them to suit their agenda.


469 posted on 11/08/2006 10:51:51 AM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: MinuteGal

This "Secretary of Defense" BS has gone on long enough. It's time for the US to stop being so darn sensitive.

We need a new Secretary of War!

(and an under-Secretary of kicking the crap out of our supposed allies)


470 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:09 AM PST by gruffwolf
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To: concerned about politics

Your post # 427 is spot on !


471 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:16 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I think the losses would have been much more significant in the election if this happened two weeks ago. The media has been trying for the longest time to get him to admit failure in his administration.

Agree (for what it is worth).

BTW if Bob Gates is in for some hard hearings before he is approved by the Senate he has been there, done that, before. His confirmation hearings to the become the head of the CIA were incredibly partisan, with a lot of "left wing activists" (or possibly worse) - so called former CIA operatives - doing their best to have him brought down.

I have previously posted on those hearings (on a thread about the KGB involvement in the assassination attempt on the Pope. )

D'Amato on Gates

472 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:22 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: linear
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the President is free to choose his VP - there is no need for congressional confirmation for VP.

Has to be elected by I think the senate
473 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:53 AM PST by uncbob
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To: mhking
Yes, it's so terrifically sad that Don "I'll fire the next person who talks about what to do AFTER the war" Rumsfeld is losing his job.

When you look around the Congress at the new Democratic majority in the House & Senate, you can, at least in part, thank Donald Rumsfeld.

Wonder how the election would have gone if he would have actually listened to any of the numerous voices who said we needed far more than 150,000 men to "win" in Iraq? If we sent enough troops to actually win? We could be looking at a permanant, enduring Republican majority. Instead, we will deal with Speaker Pelosi & Majority Leader Reid.

474 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:53 AM PST by Jonathon Spectre (Nazis believed they were doing good.)
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Rumsfeld resigning, to be replaced by former CIA Director Gates

Nov 8, 2006 12:15 PM CST

WASHINGTON (AP) - Embattled Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is resigning after six stormy years at the Pentagon. President Bush says former C-I-A head Robert Gates -- who's president of Texas A&M -- will replace Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld is the architect of an unpopular war in Iraq. The development occurred one day after midterm elections that cost Republicans control of the U-S House -- and possibly the Senate.

The nomination of Gates face Senate confirmation. Gates since the summer of 2002 has been president of A&M. He's a close friend of the Bush family. Gates served as C-I-A director for the first President Bush from 1991 until 1993.

Gates joined the C-I-A in 1966 and served in the intelligence community for more than a quarter century. Since leaving the C-I-A, Gates worked as a consultant, a lecturer and as interim dean of the George Bush School of Government and Public Service at A&M from 1999-2001.

http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5651007


475 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:57 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Txsleuth

I agree, Txsleuth. I'm outta here.


476 posted on 11/08/2006 10:52:57 AM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: BigEdLB

"As I asked earlier, what if Cheney no resigned during a congressional recess? Could Bush recess appoint someone?

Or Cheney could resign, effective with the swaring in of his successor, then if congress doesn't act, recess appoint his choice when congress goes on their break. They do take so many...
"




Impossible! If President Bush tried that with the Vice-Presidency, he would be impeached and convicted in an amazingly short time. Congress will not be denied its role in the balance of powers. Period.

Actually, I'm not even sure it's Constitutionally possible for him to do that. The Vice-Presidency is not the same as a cabinet-level appointment.

But...if he tried, he'd be out the door of the White House in weeks, if not sooner.


477 posted on 11/08/2006 10:54:09 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: uncbob

VP nominee. Confirmed by a majority of BOTH houses.

Gerald Ford
Nelson Rockefeller


478 posted on 11/08/2006 10:54:31 AM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Yeah, if only Sec Rumsfeld had done what Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, etc... demanded, the Republicans would have held the house and senate. Right.
479 posted on 11/08/2006 10:55:02 AM PST by jess35
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Texas A&M University President Robert Gates waits at the start of a meeting with minority lawmakers in Austin, Texas in this Dec. 8, 2003 file photo. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, architect of an unpopular war in Iraq, intends to resign after six stormy years at the Pentagon, Republican officials said Wednesday. Officials said Gates, former head of the CIA, would replace Rumsfeld. (AP Photo/Harry Cabluck, File)

480 posted on 11/08/2006 10:55:17 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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