Posted on 11/07/2006 7:06:48 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
Welcome to the live thread for the California Primary Election. Polls are open until 8pm tonight. If you are a registered voter, it is your duty to vote and defend your rights and civil liberties, protect your pocketbook, and vote the bums out where applicable.
Feel free to discuss issues key to your local area that others may be interested in. Post your polling place experiences if you like. And post numbers as they come in later tonight.
100.0% ( 377 of 377 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2006 at 3:26 am Candidate Votes Percent Lou Correa (Dem) 38,666 49.9 % Lynn Daucher (Rep) 38,679 50.1 %
Can't get much closer than that. Very odd about the precinct numbers changing.
Turning in for the night!
Ooops... that was my initial mistake.
I cut and pasted from the summary of all Senate races (so that was all of the precincts vs. just those for District 34).
G'nite.
Ooops... that was my initial mistake.
I cut and pasted from the summary of all Senate races (so that was all of the precincts vs. just those for District 34).
G'nite.
I wouldn't go that far. One the bright side: 86, 87, 88, and 89 were all handily defeated.
Written like a true ilk! Just exactly what I expected from the ilk herd, after causing as much division as possible in the republican base, to kick them while they're down and prevent them from rebuilding.
Well deserved, too. The ilk found the way to neutralize conservative gain. If the ilk had spent a tenth the time criticizing demonrats instead of republicans they wouldn't have been such a caricature driving people away from the right.
Now the herd will continue to divide the right so they can't rebuild. Phony conservatives are enemy stooges.
Thanks! Well, appears like I've woken up to a McClintock defeat. That's too bad. If anyone deserved to win in this entire election it was him.
I really am having a hard time coming to grips that *Garamendi* beat him!
Looks like we have to look forward to Governor Reconquista in 2010 now. Lovely.
In the next 3 years, if I can figure out a way to move out of here, I will. I'm trying to work out a plan, but unfortunately in my industry it is hard to find work outside of California (or gasp, Vancouver -- which won't be happening).
This state has become the most unmanageable in the union. The Legislature is a joke (and redistricting has ensured that Republicans are a PERMANENT minority) and the only way to Govern evidently is to be a RINO or a Democrat in the mold of Clinton (pretend to be a middle-of-the-road Dem).
And we appear to be legislating via direct democracy these days. Once you hit that point, then the end is truly in sight. Rule by mob is now here folks.
Nice. Spoken like true keyboard warrior ilk. Loser!
Grow up keyboard loser troll.
The only consistancy you ilk display is your attempts to divide.
NO, that is your tactics, troll. I am out fighting for my constitutional rights and civil liberties. What have you done for me lately? That's what I thought. Squat. You're about as useful to me as a cockroach. You're nothing but cancer. Away troll.
Show me one post from me where I've attacked any republican candidate and I'll accept your condemnation. Until then, keep up the disruption, ilk.
Lt Governor John Garamendi (Dem) 3,296,759 49.5 % Tom McClintock (Rep) 2,991,496 44.9 %
Governor Phil Angelides (Dem) 2,656,936 39.2 % Arnold Schwarzenegger (Rep) 3,784,991 55.8 %
Sec. of State Debra Bowen (Dem) 3,180,635 48.5 % Bruce McPherson (Rep) 2,929,187 44.7 %
Controller John Chiang (Dem) 3,326,831 50.9 % Tony Strickland (Rep) 2,617,582 40.0 %
Att. Gen Jerry Brown (Dem) 3,743,201 56.7 % Chuck Poochigian (Rep) 2,504,546 37.9 %
Treasurer Bill Lockyer (Dem) 3,564,910 54.8 % Claude Parrish (Rep) 2,408,928 37.0 %
Ins. Commissioner Cruz Bustamante (Dem) 2,532,095 38.9 % Steve Poizner (Rep) 3,299,029 50.6 %
US Senate Dianne Feinstein (Dem) 3,984,426 59.7 % Richard "Dick" Mountjoy (Rep) 2,330,782 34.9 %
Props Yes Votes % No Votes % 1A Y Transp Fund Protect 4,984,422 76.6% 1,524,715 23.4% Map 1B Y Hwy/Air/Port Bond 3,994,398 61.3% 2,528,828 38.7% Map 1C Y Housing Shelter Fund 3,751,116 57.5% 2,775,577 42.5% Map 1D Y School Facility Bond 3,698,150 56.6% 2,844,638 43.4% Map 1E Y Disaster/Flood Bond 4,136,879 64.0% 2,332,529 36.0% Map 83 Y Sex Offender Reform 4,639,578 70.5% 1,941,822 29.5% Map 84 Y Water/Flood/Park 3,470,895 53.8% 2,984,648 46.2% Map 85 N Parental Notificat. 3,033,015 45.9% 3,574,013 54.1% Map 86 N Cigarette Tax 3,210,272 47.9% 3,490,542 52.1% Map 87 N Energy/Oil Tax 3,017,135 45.3% 3,631,509 54.7% Map 88 N Educ. Fund/Prop. Tax 1,511,145 23.1% 5,018,819 76.9% Map 89 N Campaign Public Fund 1,652,771 25.5% 4,810,377 74.5% Map 90 N Eminent Domain 3,073,677 47.5% 3,394,145 52.5% Map
I was talking about supporting Arnold in an election cycle, specifically for the Special Election and this General.
Over and over, people were criticized for opposing leftist actions taken by the Governor. Had Gray Davis attempted half of this stuff, Republicans would have been up in arms! The exact time to criticize is before an election when they want your vote, not after when they no longer have any reason to pay attention.
If that's your belief then you should never criticize Arnold again as he won't stand for election again. I never said he was above criticism, I was just more willing to give him due credit and focus on the absolutely lunatic Dem opposition, the union thugs, etc. Arnold is and was a tool, responsive to outrages (car tax, driver's licenses for illegals, gay marriage, etc.), and by articulating reasons to oppose the mentally ill legislature (which was voted back despite miniscule approval ratings) it served our cause more than slashing at Arnold. Politicians, and Arnold as a creature of celebrity, are often motivated by desire for approval. That's your leverage with Arnold.
You see, my problem has been with what I see as an over-personalization of assault on Arnold rather than assault on policy, articulating why a policy is a fool's errand, etc. Even when he took the battle to the unions, somehow he just couldn't do anything right in many eyes around here. It's ridiculous and unhelpful!
I hit Bush hard but Bush claims to be a conservative and, honestly, the stakes are higher. Arnold has always run and acted as a populist, my expectations have been ever lower.
Where was that opposition going to come from, NJ??? The opposition was the very thing that you joined in stifling because it might "harm Arnold" (as you stated above).
False. I was aggressively critical of the bonds, *the proposals*, but not Arnold for agreeing to put them before the voters. Attacking him over that is a distraction. That was politics, let's debate proposals not personalities when it's the proposal on the ballot! Obviously there were more than a million people who agreed more bond debt was a bad idea and yet, somehow, our voice and view did not gel into an organized opposition to this or that particular bond.
I did not take the party's view that saying YES on just a few proposals was as strong as saying NO to the others. NO needs to be articulated and somehow it didn't materialize. That seems to have been a CAGOP strategy but in a nation of free political speech and free flow of finances, no one was kept from organizing opposition to this or that bond issue. Somehow it just didn't happen. I'm curious as to why. Twas it a conspiracy of silence by those who have money for such opposition campaigns?
Truthfully, I feel the bad bonds are more dangerous to our state's health than any particular political race.
I've learned a lot since the recall. I had hope for Arnold, I've been greatly disappointed. I had hope for McClintock and disturbed by his loss and, unlike you and many here don't blame Arnold for McClintock's loss. Somehow billionaire Poizner won, after all. McClintock failed to counter Garamendi's slanderous ads but, bottom line, it seems to me unless you can very nearly win in L.A., you're not going to win statewide.
How do we change the political culture of L.A.? Can we?
I love the idea of breaking the state because there's a hell of a lot more to this state than Los Angeles.
win some lose some, I wish Tom well and thank him for trying to do what he saw as the best thing for california, whether I agreed with it down the line or not.
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