Posted on 11/06/2006 7:19:22 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm
Send Jack back to Congress
The Tribune-Democrat
John Murtha expects the Democrats to win back control of the House of Representatives on Tuesday.
While we endorse the local congressman in his re-election bid, we fear the spending spree that might result from a shift in power, especially as President Bush attempts to carve out a positive legacy in the final two years of his second term.
Our endorsement of Murtha over Republican challenger Diana Irey is done for some reasons that might surprise our readers, and comes with some words of caution for the longtime lawmaker.
We support Murtha for his:
n Stance against continued U.S. military efforts in Iraq. We have not supported the war.
And we have agreed with his position that it is time to get our troops out of danger, and to cut back on the money were spending on the Iraq effort.
n Vote against renewal of the Patriot Act, a piece of legislation that tramples on the rights of this nations citizens.
His vote was one act aimed at preserving the sanctity of our Constitution.
n Message of improved health care, especially efforts to combat what he calls an epidemic of diabetes.
Murtha did predict that Bush would be willing to do some dealing during his final two years, especially if the House shifts from Republican to Democratic control. Quite simply, that means spending more money at a time when our federal debt is soaring out of sight.
We urge the congressman, if re-elected, to push for reduced rather than increased spending even if it means some of the pork local folks have come to love is not available.
After all, why should we get excited about Murtha bringing our own money back to this area? Wed rather keep it and spend it as we see fit.
We would also urge Murtha to sit down with area veterans who clearly have different views on the Iraq conflict than he does.
We are frightened by Murthas willingness to align himself with California Democrat Nancy Pelosi. Clearly, Murtha is hoping that relationship paves the way for his ascension to a position of higher power in the House. But we dont believe our regions values match well with Pelosis, and we dont see much good coming for the 12th district even if the relationship benefits the congressman.
Beyond that, Murtha has endeared himself to liberals on both coasts raising money for his allies in California, New England and elsewhere. We hope he can keep these friends and their spending ways in check if the Democrats retake the House.
We are somewhat impressed with Irey, who presents herself as a thoughtful and articulate candidate.
She has some ideas that were interested in, including reducing federal spending.
We have opposed closing the borders to immigration, something she supports.
In the end, we endorse Murtha for another go-round in Washington.
But we urge him to remain faithful to his fiscally and socially conservative western Pennsylvania roots even if it costs him in personal gain and national influence.
Diana is poised to win. That is an pitiful endorsement of Murtha.
Just out of curiosity, what are the polls saying? Is Diana within the margin or error?
I certainly hope she does win. I wonder if her victory will be seen by the lamestream media as some kind of "referendum on the war by 'heartland' voters". Yeah, sure - I'll hold my breath.
Astounding. This paper deserves some powerful letters from its readership.
Support Diana Irey, she will be good for the 12th District, Pennsylvania and America.
Diana Irey....You Don't Know Jack....BootMurtha....Vets4Irey
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Leni
The Johnstown Tribune-DEMOCRAT endorses Murtha? I'm SHOCKED, simply SHOCKED I tell you!!!!!
Johnstown paper. Johnstown = Stagnant depressed rustbelt craphole for those of you who don't know Western PA. One of the highest areas in the state for percentage Welfare and AFDC. If I was to think white trailer trash Appalachia, Johnstown would come to mind. They keep electing Democratic pols there. Even in former trailer trash areas like Eastern Ky and West Virginia they are starting to wise up.
I have trouble believing such a liberal editorial could come out of western Pennsylvania. I've never been to Johnstown, but I shared a house with two guys from there for about six months--Polish-descended, their families had lived in Johnstown for at least three generations. I never knew their party politics, but they were sure as hell no West Coast liberals, that was for sure. Pennsylvania steel country never struck me as being a place that could produce people who could support a cut-and-run, tax-and-spend, anti-American traitor liberal like John Murtha.
I don't know if Irey can win, but win or not, she's given Murtha the fight of his political life. And she's planted a seed, one that can grow and mature for 2008 if it doesn't sprout in 2006.
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"Just out of curiosity, what are the polls saying? Is Diana within the margin or error?"
That's what I'm wondering....where are the whacky libnut polls that have murtha winning? I don't see them. Something is up..he must be sinking like a rock.
When people listen to Kerry's latest shot at our warriors, remember that Murtha has said worse things about our warriors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o
Swift boot Murtha now and Kerry later!
368 posted on 10/31/2006 2:05:33 PM EST by Grampa Dave
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1729287/posts?page=368#368
I wish that I was in the district to vote for Irey....I would!
Murtha requested his purple hearts like John Kerry did. A true hero that is legitimately wounded does not have to request a purple heart. Allot of times, they are issued to them in the hospital. Do not defend John Murtha. There is a damn good reason he will not release his military file. If his file was as good as he would like people to believe, he would have released it years ago. From a former marine, he is a POS. 14 posted on 06/12/2006 10:36:15 AM EDT by jrooney
Check this out too: Opinion Journal's BEST OF : http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008392 " In Cold Blood " by James Tranto
" Murtha, a vocal opponent of the war in Iraq, said at a news conference Wednesday that sources within the military have told him that an internal investigation will show that : "there was no firefight, " there was no IED " (improvised explosive device) that killed these innocent people. " Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood. " 4 posted on 06/12/2006 10:23:00 AM EDT by AirBorn
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Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
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By Marc Morano and Randy Hall CNSNews.com Staff January 13, 2006
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(CNSNews.com) - While Pennsylvania Democratic Congressman John Murtha has ascended to the national stage as one of the most vocal critics of President Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, he has also long downplayed the controversy and bitterness surrounding the two Purple Hearts he was awarded for military service in Vietnam.
Murtha is a retired marine and was the first Vietnam combat veteran elected to Congress. Since 1967, there have been at least three different accounts of the injuries that purportedly earned Murtha his Purple Hearts. Those accounts also appear to conflict with the limited military records that are available, and Murtha has thus far refused to release his own military records.
A Cybercast News Service investigation also reveals that one of Murtha's former Democratic congressional colleagues and a fellow decorated Vietnam veteran, Don Bailey of Pennsylvania, alleges that Murtha admitted during an emotional conversation on the floor of the U.S. House in the early 1980s that he did not deserve his Purple Hearts.
"[Murtha] is putting himself forward as some combat veteran with serious wounds and he's using that and it's dishonest and it's wrong," Bailey told Cybercast News Service on Jan. 9. Murtha served in the Marines on active duty and in the reserves from 1952 until his retirement as a colonel in 1990. He volunteered for service in Vietnam and was a First Marine Regiment intelligence officer in 1966 and 1967.
Murtha and Bailey, once allies, were forced to run against each other in a Democratic congressional primary in 1982 following redistricting. Murtha won the election.
Murtha has, in the past, publicly dismissed any questions about whether he deserved his two Purple Hearts, noting during his 1994 congressional campaign that "I am proud of my service in Vietnam."
In his Friday, Jan. 13, response to the Cybercast News Service investigation, Murtha again defended his military record.
"Questions about my record are clearly an attempt to distract attention from the real issue, which is that our brave men and women in uniform are dying and being injured every day in the middle of a civil war that can be resolved only by the Iraqis themselves," Murtha wrote in an email response.
"I volunteered for a year's duty in Vietnam. I was out in the field almost every single day. We took heavy casualties in my regiment the year that I was there. In my fitness reports, I was rated No. 1. My record is clear," Murtha added.
However, another source, World War II Navy veteran Harry M. Fox, previously indicated that Murtha in 1968 personally asked Fox's boss, then-U.S. Rep. John Saylor (R-Pa.), for assistance in obtaining the Purple Hearts, but was turned down because Saylor's office determined that Murtha lacked sufficient evidence of wounds. Murtha later challenged Saylor for his House seat in 1968 and lost. Fox said he personally viewed Murtha's military records in 1968 as Saylor's aide.
When Saylor died in 1973, Fox attempted to succeed his boss in Congress, but was narrowly defeated by Murtha in a 1974 special election.
"Pretending to be a big war hero and boasting about having medals is a slap in the face to our veterans who were seriously wounded or killed in action," Fox was quoted as telling the Uniontown Herald-Standard in the newspaper's Nov. 1, 1996 edition. "He campaigned as a war hero and I've never seen any documentation that he earned any of these honors," Fox reportedly stated.
On Friday, Jan. 13, Murtha's congressional communications director provided Cybercast News Service with a copy of a letter from the commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps, citing Murtha's request of Sept. 26, 1967, seeking Purple Hearts. Cybercast News Service did not authenticate the letter.
"The records of this Headquarters show that you are entitled to the Purple Heart and a Gold Star in lieu of a second Purple Heart for wounds received in action against insurgent Communist Guerrilla forces on 22 March and 7 May 1967 in the Republic of Vietnam," according to the letter signed by an individual identified only as A. Gardoni. Gardoni's title is not listed on the letter.
Cybercast News Service attempted to contact Fox for this article, but learned that the health of the 81-year-old was too poor to allow him to communicate. But in a 1996 newspaper article, Fox questioned whether Murtha deserved his Purple Hearts, alleging that there was insufficient evidence of injuries and that Murtha was never confined to a hospital.
"Of course Congressman Saylor wanted to help if he could, but there was nothing in the service record to indicate the wounds were of any severity and the documents specifically indicated that next of kin was not notified in either instance," Fox told the Herald-Standard in 1996. "We were amazed that Mr. Murtha was asking for Purple Hearts for superficial lacerations," he added.
Murtha's accounts of his Vietnam War wounds may also conflict with the available U.S. Marine medical records obtained by the media.
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette on May 12, 2002, reported that "Marine Corps casualty records show that Murtha was injured in 'hostile' actions near Danang, Vietnam, on March 22, 1967, and May 7, 1967.
"In the first incident, his right cheek was lacerated, and in the second, he was lacerated above his left eye. Neither injury required evacuation," the Post-Gazette reported.
But an Oct. 26, 1994, article in the Herald-Standard quoted Murtha as describing two different injuries.
"I was wounded in the arm with shrapnel from a bullet that hit the motor mount of a helicopter. In the other, my knee was banged up and my arm was banged up when a helicopter was shot down from a very few feet," Murtha told the Herald-Standard.
A June 1, 1967 report in the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat quoted a letter that the newspaper indicated was sent by Murtha to his wife that same year. The letter apparently detailed yet another version of how Murtha qualified for one of his Purple Hearts. According to the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat, Murtha's injuries involved his being "struck in the ankle" by a "shot that ricocheted off the helicopter."
Murtha, a 16-term congressman from southwestern Pennsylvania and the senior Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee, drew national attention on Nov. 17, 2005, when he called for an immediate withdrawal of American forces from Iraq.
The Vietnam veteran even took a swipe at President Bush and Vice President Cheney, neither of whom have actual combat experience.
"I like guys who've never been there, who criticize us who've been there," Murtha said. "I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and sent people to war and then don't like to hear suggestions that what may need to be done."
Murtha discussed his own combat experience as a marine intelligence officer in his 2004 autobiography, "From Vietnam to 9/11: On the Front Lines of National Security."
"I had been awake more than twenty-four hours by the time we landed. A few hours into the battle, an on-again-off-again event, I could no longer keep my eyes open. I curled up next to a bunker and fell into a deep sleep for about an hour. Even the noise of frequent gunfire didn't wake me up. (One of my fellow officers told me the next morning that when he hadn't seen me for an hour or so, he assumed I was dead,)" Murtha wrote of one of his Vietnam combat experiences on page 14 of the 2004 paperback edition of his book. Murtha's two Purple Hearts are referenced on the back of the book.
In addition to his Purple Hearts, Murtha received the Vietnamese Cross for Gallantry and the Bronze Star with combat "V" for service in the 1st Marine Division in Vietnam. Murtha also served in the Marines during the Korean War but did not serve in Korea, according to his book.
'He's a phony and a liar'
Bailey said during the time Murtha was being investigated for his role in the Abscam FBI sting in 1980, Murtha made a confession on the House floor.
... you admitted, back in our corner, that you didn't earn your purple hearts (sic) (you indicated you had small scratch on your cheek that wasn't even directly related to an APC [Armored Personnel Carrier] that ran over a small antipersonnel mine that was behind you). The other purple heart [sic] you even declined to explain," wrote Bailey in an open letter dated May 5, 2002.
Bailey is also a decorated Vietnam combat veteran. He served in the U.S. Army's 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions and was awarded a Silver Star and three Bronze Stars.
"At the time (of Murtha's alleged admission), you were feeling particularly vulnerable because it wasn't too long after you had called me crying and sobbing, thanking me for 'saving your life' before the ethics committee (on Abscam-related charges). There was no doubt in my mind that you were expressing to me that you did not believe you did anything sufficient to earn the purple heart [sic] and that you didn't want to be active in my efforts to laud Vietnam veterans that served with us," Bailey wrote in his May 2002 letter.
"You may deny that all you wish -- but you and I know that that conversation took place," he added.
In the Jan. 9 interview with Cybercast News Service Bailey affirmed the contents of his 2002 letter.
"The issue here is this idea or pretense that [Murtha] knows combat and he's got two Purple Hearts. He's a phony and a liar," Bailey said.
Bailey also questioned why Murtha has thus far declined to release his full military records in order to clear up the controversy.
"The Marine Corps ought to be able to produce all the orders, the medical stuff, the citations and the orders granting [the Purple Hearts] and everything else. Where is that stuff?" he asked.
According to a May 16, 2002, edition of the Washington, Pa., Observer-Reporter, Murtha "produced military paperwork indicating he was entitled to the awards," and a Murtha spokesperson was quoted as saying that "the media for years has investigated 'and found nothing.'"
But Murtha's paperwork did nothing to sway Bailey's opinion.
"You may fool a few reporters into believing that merely because you got some perfunctory paperwork made out by a friend, that that means you earned the purple hearts [sic]. But even if you were awarded the medals later, there should be affidavits from witnesses. These things should be easy to get," Bailey wrote in his letter while demanding an apology from Murtha for questioning his credibility.
Murtha could end the controversy at any time, Bailey added, simply by calling a press conference and producing the evidence of his wounds.
"Explain where you were and what you were doing when you got the purple hearts.[sic] Explain who was with you and treated your wounds, but most important, Jack, describe your wounds or the lack thereof, as you did for me, years ago," Bailey wrote.
"Unless the Marine Corps gives out medals for unsubstantiated noncombat-related telltale scratches, procured for use in political campaign -- then show me the money, Jack," Bailey added.
Murtha: 'I'm proud of my service in Vietnam'
During the 1994 congressional campaign against GOP opponent Dr. William Choby, Murtha's two Purple Hearts became a political issue.
"Explain your Purple Hearts. He (Murtha) used them to get elected," Choby charged in 1994.
In responding to the charges, Murtha claimed that he "didn't ask for the Purple Hearts.
"I'm proud of my service in Vietnam. I don't know if he (Choby) served in the service at all. I left my family and my business to serve in Vietnam. My family made great sacrifice for me to make that service in Vietnam, so I'm very proud of that," he told the Uniontown Herald-Standard in the newspaper's Oct. 26, 1994 edition.
"I am disappointed that a guy (Choby) would say something like that when I volunteered in the reserves and I felt it was important that I go. What's the point in all this? It's irritating," Murtha added.
Choby also challenged the validity of Murtha's Bronze Star with Combat 'V' during the 1996 congressional campaign.
"I find it very curious that Combat 'V' doesn't even exist in any of the materials he had distributed," Choby was quoted as saying in the Herald-Standard of Oct. 13, 1996. "His military record improves over the years," he added.
The Murtha controversy is reminiscent of the flap surrounding the war record of 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. But while critics like the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth attacked Kerry in 2004 because of his anti-war activism of the 1970s, Murtha's three chief accusers all made their allegations years and in some cases decades before Murtha emerged last November as a prominent anti-war activist.
Choby told Cybercast News Service on Jan. 5 that Murtha's entire political career is based on his war record. "Without that credibility of those combat medals, he would have never been elected to office," Choby said.
(Monisha Bansal also contributed to this article.)
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That is an pitiful endorsement of Murtha.
Good grief. If that editorial isn't the best endorsement Irey could get, I don't know what is. Murtha should say, "ah...gee...thanks?"
Oh, and BTW, is she as attractive as the pictures indicate?
Dims lie with impunity. They can't help themselves.
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