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Mason Dixon's numbers are telling us something
TKS at National Review ^ | November 5, 2006 | Jim Gerhaghty

Posted on 11/05/2006 3:16:09 PM PST by Oakleaf

Boy, today's Mason Dixon polls do nothing to dissuade the notion of a late-breaking shift back to the Republicans.

As you know, I like to whack around pollsters like a pinata, but Mason-Dixon has a good reputation among political professionals - if they're not always right, they almost never give you a really wacky result. In 2004, they got 13 out of 14 swing states right at the presidential level (they put Bush up in Minnesota) and were pretty spot-on in their margin of victory.

Today, M-D puts Brown beating DeWine by 6 in Ohio. (Who was writing last night Ohio had turned into a single-digit race?) (Interestingly, they saw no tightening in Pennsylvania; Santorum went from -12 to -13.) Brown is still the favorite, but DeWine can take some solace in the fact that the numbers are turning his direction in these final days.

The real shocker is M-D has Chafee ahead by one point. I heard a Globe reporter saying the Democrats were worried about Rhode Island, and thought it was interesting but didn't quite buy it. Chafee had been down pretty big for a while. But as a buddy of mine noted, Chafee's a well-established, well-respected family name; those names don't often get blown out by 10 to 14 points. (I could see the argument that between a liberal Republican and a liberal Democrat, voters will pick the Democrat, but as we saw in the primary, Chafee's got a better connection to this community than we expected.) Everybody's had this one as an automatic Democratic pickup; if this seat slips through their fingers, it's like the number 15 team beating the number 2 team in the NCAA basketball tournament; it wrecks a lot of office pools.

M-D has Missouri close (surprise) but the trend is interesting, from McCaskill up 3 late last month to up 1. I'm hearing that Talent's internal numbers are fantastic - for whatever that's worth - and that the cloning referendum has the GOP base revved.

In Arizona, M-D has Jon Kyl up 8, suggesting that spending $1 million at the last minute may be a decision that Chuck Schumer comes to regret, particularly if a race like Rhode Island gets fumbled.

M-D concurs with the emerging consensus in Maryland, virtual tie; they have Cardin up 3 after having Cardin up 6 two weeks ago.

Montana's tied. Guess we know what had the Montana Democrats sweating earlier this week.

In Tennessee, M-D has Corker up 12, 50 percent to 38 percent. If Corker wins big, I'm going to want to rub Newsweek's noses in it for that glowing, heroic cover piece they ran on Harold Ford Jr. Anoint him the Golden Child after he's won, not before.

Worst sign for Republicans? Another poll showing Virginia nearly tied, M-D showing Webb by 1. It's gonna be a close race, and from my mailbag, the NoVa Democrats are fired up. Allen had better hope his get-out-the-vote effort works a heck of a lot better than the rest of his campaign has worked so far.


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To: Theodore R.
Panelists on the "McLaughlin Group" unanimously agreed that Menendez will win because NJ is locked perpetually to the Democrats. No nominal GOP Senate candidate has won there since 1972.

The Mc Laughlin group doesn't live in NJ and understand how upset many are at Cirzine's lie when he promised a cut in prop taxes and delivered a sales tax increase.

Also Menendez is a crook and while people around here expect it, they aren't too enthused about it. Menendez is an appointee he hasn't been elected statewide yet.

121 posted on 11/05/2006 5:45:33 PM PST by Leto
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To: Popman
"the guy is a enigma on the issues."

This seems to work well. I call it "mirror propaganda", you see yourself looking back.

The candidate says some unpleasant things- crime, taxes, whatever, then talks of change, hope, rejuvenation, whatever. No details- you fill in the blank depending on what you most want to hear. Patric's campaign in MA is like that, Clinton's was like that, Kerry's was like that- bridge to the 21st century, I have a plan, I offer change.
122 posted on 11/05/2006 5:46:42 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Chi-townChief
Thank you and everyone for supporting us Troops in this election, by voting!
123 posted on 11/05/2006 5:47:23 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky" Kicking terrorist a-- and killing jihadist!)
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To: Theodore R.
Well that maybe, I just know that in the past 2 weeks I have seen more Dewine and Blackwell signs than the RATs!
I think, that we are going to be surprised by the strength of the GOP turn out, even more than 2004. I think people are looking at the benefits of no new terrorist attacks since 9/11 and the great economy! Just my humble opinion!
124 posted on 11/05/2006 5:47:38 PM PST by GOPbarney6 (GOP)
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To: kerryusama04
Hello,

Thanks for the info about KC, that is good to hear! Here in SW St. Louis Co., the majority of the signs I see are anti-Prop 2, even in neighborhoods that have few Talent OR McCaskill signs. I can not believe that someone would put up an anti-Prop-2 sign and not vote for Talent.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
125 posted on 11/05/2006 5:48:01 PM PST by MOgirl (The Great Pumpkin did arrive....and he brought a PRESENT!!)
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To: GOPbarney6

As I see it, our criminal Gov. Taft, has destroyed Republican politicans here in Ohio for several decades. What a POS. My family and I were at a restaurant several years ago, my son had made reservations for a wonderful table days in advance. When we got there we were not seated right away and seemed to be some confusion. The hostess took us aside and asked if we would relinquish our table to Taft and his party because of security. We did and I told the hostess to tell him he is lucky he is a Republican or we would have never agreed, with a laugh. The jerk did not respond with any thank you or acknowledgement of any kind. If I knew then what I know now, he would have had to wait.


126 posted on 11/05/2006 5:48:41 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Leto
Maybe we pick UP seats, can you imagine the media and leftist meltdown. Too delicious.

If that happens the phrase unhinged would become a mild description of the Left. The very fear of them doing something extremely drastic (and we know what that means) is no longer a far-fetched idea.

127 posted on 11/05/2006 5:49:29 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Popman

I am not from PA but I think it is the support he gave Spector that is haunting him. My opinion.


128 posted on 11/05/2006 5:49:32 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Live like a Democrat, work like a Republican. :)


129 posted on 11/05/2006 5:49:48 PM PST by anymouse
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To: sageb1
As a Pittsburgh resident, I can confirm that the campaign against Santorum has been constant for at least two years among the MSM and the liberal newspaper the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, who have shown that they are determined to bring Santorum down. The conservative paper, the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, in an effort to appear fair and balanced, has also given play to the "charges" among conservatives that Santorum isn't doing enough for the conservative cause. So, he's being hit on all sides.

And may I add here that the FR PA boards have featured several very vocal posters of the Constitutional Party persuasion who did nothing but slam Santorum for several years. Until three posters were banned in recent weeks.

130 posted on 11/05/2006 5:51:12 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: kingu

Maybe, maybe not. I know it was a long time ago, but after 62, everyone thought Nixon was a goner. After 88 and the terrible speech Clinton gave at the convention, everyone thought he was a goner. Stranger things have happened.


131 posted on 11/05/2006 5:51:34 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

"He that keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles."


132 posted on 11/05/2006 5:52:19 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: lostinmaine

If your scenario plays out the way you think, what on earth will be the MSM excuse....stolen election? They have tried to propagandize the American electorate unrelentingly.


133 posted on 11/05/2006 5:52:26 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: DBrow
No details- you fill in the blank depending on what you most want to hear.

If conservatives tried that, the MSM would be all over them as speaking empty rhetoric, avoiding real issues,blah, blah, blah

But, they hear John F'n Kerry say "I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty" they split a gut from glee

134 posted on 11/05/2006 5:52:42 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: RasterMaster

Take another look at it. There was something missing. See if you can see what I just added.


135 posted on 11/05/2006 5:53:42 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RayChuang88
"Maybe we pick UP seats, can you imagine the media and leftist meltdown. Too delicious."

"If that happens the phrase unhinged would become a mild description of the Left. The very fear of them doing something extremely drastic (and we know what that means) is no longer a far-fetched idea."

There will be lawsuits for the next 2 years over this election. Finally, this election is more about the MSM, than the candidates themselves. Personally, I don't like being told who I will or will not vote for BEFORE the election is held!
136 posted on 11/05/2006 5:54:18 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky" Kicking terrorist a-- and killing jihadist!)
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To: NittanyLion

Just what is a Nittany Lion?


138 posted on 11/05/2006 5:55:47 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: Oakleaf; All

Virginia is the one that worries me the most.

The Dems there do seem fired up and ready to crawl across broken glass, though not elsewhere in the country.


139 posted on 11/05/2006 5:58:14 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: K4Harty

Corker is a definite win.

Great news there.


140 posted on 11/05/2006 5:59:44 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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