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Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program
NRO ^ | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 11/02/2006 8:09:04 PM PST by hipaatwo

When I saw the headline on Drudge earlier tonight, that the New York Times had a big story coming out tomorrow that had something to do with Iraq and WMDs, I was ready for an October November Surprise.

Well, Drudge is giving us the scoop. And if it's meant to be a slam-Bush story, I think the Times team may have overthunk this:

U.S. POSTING OF IRAQ NUKE DOCS ON WEB COULD HAVE HELPED IRAN...

NYT REPORTING FRIDAY, SOURCES SAY: Federal government set up Web site —
Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal — to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums...

Website now shut... Developing...

I'm sorry, did the New York Times just put on the front page that IRAQ HAD A NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM AND WAS PLOTTING TO BUILD AN ATOMIC BOMB?

What? Wait a minute. The entire mantra of the war critics has been  "no WMDs, no WMDs, no threat, no threat", for the past three years solid. Now we're being told that the Bush administration erred by making public information that could help any nation build an atomic bomb.

Let's go back and clarify: IRAQ HAD NUCLEAR WEAPONS PLANS SO ADVANCED AND DETAILED THAT ANY COUNTRY COULD HAVE USED THEM.

I think the Times editors are counting on this being spun as a "Boy, did Bush screw up" meme; the problem is, to do it, they have to knock down the "there was no threat in Iraq" meme, once and for all. Because obviously, Saddam could have sold this information to anybody, any other state, or any well-funded terrorist group that had publicly pledged to kill millions of Americans and had expressed interest in nuclear arms. You know, like, oh... al-Qaeda.

The New York Times just tore the heart out of the antiwar argument, and they are apparently completely oblivous to it.

The antiwar crowd is going to have to argue that the information somehow wasn't dangerous in the hands of Saddam Hussein, but was dangerous posted on the Internet. It doesn't work. It can't be both no threat to America and yet also somehow a threat to America once it's in the hands of Iran. Game, set, and match.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2001bushvindicated; 2001documents; bushlied; bushsfault; bushwasright; fmsodocuments; iraq; jveritas; magnificentbastard; nuclearweapons; nyt; oops; owngoal; postwardocs; prewardocs; pullgrenadethrowpin; rymb; saddamatomicbomb; saddamdocs; saddamnuke; waronterror; wmd; wot
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To: hipaatwo

Well now, this is mighty interesting.


281 posted on 11/03/2006 3:42:29 AM PST by Earthdweller (The West has mistakenly believed tolerance begets tolerance.)
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To: LikeLight; jveritas; goodnesswins; SevenofNine; pollyannaish; Private_Sector_Does_It_Better; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/667912/posts?page=1

***UK did this in 2002(released docs about nukes)***: "The plans give complete cross-sections, precise measurements and full details of materials used for all the components, including the plutonium core and the initiator that sets off the chain reaction causing the blast."


282 posted on 11/03/2006 3:49:17 AM PST by PghBaldy (This hominid named Kerry annoys me.)
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To: hipaatwo

Rubbing hands together in GLEE!!!


283 posted on 11/03/2006 4:10:35 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: hipaatwo
If the GOP is smart they will have Bush on the stump all day today THANKING the NYT for "exposing Iraq's nuclear weapons program".

Over and Over and Over again

284 posted on 11/03/2006 4:11:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: hipaatwo

once again, Drudge was right on top of this

lastnight at about 7pm est, he had pretty much what times was going to do today

fricken times is about the most adolescent outfit on earth


285 posted on 11/03/2006 4:13:44 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: hipaatwo

CRUSH THE DEMS and the euro libs.
Regards from old europe
"Freedom is not free"


286 posted on 11/03/2006 4:18:37 AM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: hipaatwo

WHAT WHAT WHAT.......WMD and IRAQ IN THE SAME SENTENCE


287 posted on 11/03/2006 4:23:00 AM PST by OldFriend (JOHN F. KERRY, BETRAYING OUR TROOPS AGAIN)
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To: hipaatwo

BTTT


288 posted on 11/03/2006 4:32:15 AM PST by Alia
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To: hipaatwo

Why go to a government website written in Arabic? Just go to Amazon.com and learn the newest upgrades to your own Nuclear Bomb. As a bonus we will offer you a copy of the Joe Wilson book,"How to get High Grade Uranium from Niger and not get caught".

http://www.amazon.com/How-Build-Nuclear-Bomb-Destruction/dp/1560256036


289 posted on 11/03/2006 4:50:57 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Alia

bttt


290 posted on 11/03/2006 4:51:19 AM PST by Nascar Dad (Support the troops!)
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To: george76; CharlesWayneCT; PJ-Comix; ImaGraftedBranch; NonValueAdded; FlingWingFlyer; ...
NYT REPORTING FRIDAY, SOURCES SAY: Federal government set up Web site — Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal — to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums...

All I did just now was type in 'how to make an atomic bomb' on Google. At least two working pages detailing the process on the first 20 results. Do they really think that these documents would be the only source of atomic bomb-making?

They screwed up. This proves Saddam had nuclear ambitions, and they're too blinded by hatred to see it.

291 posted on 11/03/2006 5:03:52 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (LET ME SHOW YOU MY POKEYMANS MY POKEYMANS LET ME SHOW YOU THEM)
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To: hipaatwo

US Department of Energy file photo of an H-bomb test in 1952. The US government posted on the Internet Iraqi documents that explain how to build a nuclear bomb, the New York Times reported on its website saying officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency had complained to US officials last week about the postings of "roughly a dozen" documents from Iraq's pre-1991 nuclear research that contained diagrams, equations and other details for making a nuclear bomb(AFP/DoE/File)

292 posted on 11/03/2006 5:08:53 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sierrahome

Never forget: Joe Wilson said that there was no attempt to purchase yellow cake "through legal channels". If they were seeking it, it would be via illegal channels. Like Duh, Joe.


293 posted on 11/03/2006 5:11:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: hipaatwo

Well, well, well. Bumped and bookmarked.


294 posted on 11/03/2006 5:13:15 AM PST by Darnright (http://media.putfile.com/Webb-on-Allen)
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To: PowerPro

A nuclear bomb would not qualify as a WMD. Just ask Madeline Halfbright, Howeird Dean, Hanoi Kerry, Jimmuh Caatah, Chappaquiddick Kennedy, Schmuck Schumer, Leftlunatic Levin, Feinstein, Boxer, Leahy, Reid, Rockefeller, Pelosi, Frank, Hillary Klinton, BJ Klinton and the rest of the fools in the Democrat-Socialist Party of Amerika.


295 posted on 11/03/2006 5:14:51 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: hipaatwo
US posted Iraqi documents on making nuclear bomb on Internet: report

The US government posted on the Internet Iraqi documents that explain how to build a nuclear bomb, the New York Times reported on its website.

. The Times said that officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency had complained to US officials last week about the postings of "roughly a dozen" documents from Iraq's pre-1991 nuclear research that contained diagrams, equations and other details for making a nuclear bomb. .

The Times cited experts who said the documents "constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb." .

The US government posted the bomb-related documents on a website set up last March to make available to the public a huge archive of Iraqi government papers, hoping that the public would help sift through the archive for useful information government translators did not have time to search for.

. The Times said that earlier in the year UN arms control officials had complained about documents on the website that had information on producing extremely dangerous nerve agents sarin and tabun.

. The Times said that the website, called the "Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal", was shut down Thursday after the newspaper made enquiries about the nuclear-related documents.

. Chad Kolton, spokesman for US Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, told the Times in a statement that "While strict criteria had already been established to govern posted documents, the material currently on the website, as well as the procedures used to post new documents, will be carefully reviewed before the site becomes available again." — AFP The US government posted on the Internet Iraqi documents that explain how to build a nuclear bomb, the New York Times reported on its website.

. The Times said that officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency had complained to US officials last week about the postings of "roughly a dozen" documents from Iraq's pre-1991 nuclear research that contained diagrams, equations and other details for making a nuclear bomb.

. The Times cited experts who said the documents "constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb."

. The US government posted the bomb-related documents on a website set up last March to make available to the public a huge archive of Iraqi government papers, hoping that the public would help sift through the archive for useful information government translators did not have time to search for.

. The Times said that earlier in the year UN arms control officials had complained about documents on the website that had information on producing extremely dangerous nerve agents sarin and tabun.

. The Times said that the website, called the "Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal", was shut down Thursday after the newspaper made enquiries about the nuclear-related documents.

. The US government posted on the Internet Iraqi documents that explain how to build a nuclear bomb, the New York Times reported on its website.

. The Times said that officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency had complained to US officials last week about the postings of "roughly a dozen" documents from Iraq's pre-1991 nuclear research that contained diagrams, equations and other details for making a nuclear bomb.

. The Times cited experts who said the documents "constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb."

. The US government posted the bomb-related documents on a website set up last March to make available to the public a huge archive of Iraqi government papers, hoping that the public would help sift through the archive for useful information government translators did not have time to search for.

. The Times said that earlier in the year UN arms control officials had complained about documents on the website that had information on producing extremely dangerous nerve agents sarin and tabun.

. The Times said that the website, called the "Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal", was shut down Thursday after the newspaper made enquiries about the nuclear-related documents.

. Chad Kolton, spokesman for US Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, told the Times in a statement that "While strict criteria had already been established to govern posted documents, the material currently on the website, as well as the procedures used to post new documents, will be carefully reviewed before the site becomes available again." —

296 posted on 11/03/2006 5:15:57 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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US closes 'weapons of mass destruction cookbook' website
297 posted on 11/03/2006 5:19:31 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: WOSG

Good analysis on your part. I just get frustrated sometimes. I can only imagine how frustrating the whole thing is for Bush, who has to face those liars and traitors every day.


298 posted on 11/03/2006 5:26:34 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are Instituting their own Guest Voter Program.)
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To: Fred Nerks

thanks


299 posted on 11/03/2006 5:28:11 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are Instituting their own Guest Voter Program.)
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To: hipaatwo

A dangerous cookbook
The deletions, the diplomats said, had been done in consultation with the United States and other nuclear-weapons nations. Mohamed ElBaradei, the director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which ran the nuclear part of the inspections, told the Security Council in late 2002 that the deletions were "consistent with the principle that proliferation-sensitive information should not be released."

In Europe, a senior diplomat said atomic experts there had studied the nuclear documents on the Web site and judged their public release as potentially dangerous. "It's a cookbook," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of his agency's rules. "If you had this, it would short-circuit a lot of things."

The New York Times had examined dozens of the documents and asked a half dozen nuclear experts to evaluate some of them.

Peter D. Zimmerman, a physicist and former United States government arms scientist now at the war studies department of King's College, London, called the posted material "very sensitive, much of it undoubtedly secret restricted data."

Ray E. Kidder, a senior nuclear physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, an arms design center, said "some things in these documents would be helpful" to nations aspiring to develop nuclear weapons and should have remained secret.

A senior American intelligence official who deals routinely with atomic issues said the documents showed "where the Iraqis failed and how to get around the failures." The documents, he added, could perhaps help Iran or other nations making a serious effort to develop nuclear arms, but probably not terrorists or poorly equipped states. The official, who requested anonymity because of his agency's rules against public comment, called the papers "a road map that helps you get from point A to point B, but only if you already have a car."

In September, the Web site began posting the nuclear documents, and some soon raised concerns. On Sept. 12, it posted a document it called "Progress of Iraqi nuclear program circa 1995." That description is potentially misleading since the research occurred years earlier.

The Iraqi document is marked "Draft FFCD Version 3 (20.12.95)," meaning it was preparatory for the "Full, Final, Complete Disclosure" that Iraq made to United Nations inspectors in March 1996. The document carries three diagrams showing cross sections of bomb cores, and their diameters.

On Sept. 20, the site posted a much larger document, "Summary of technical achievements of Iraq's former nuclear program." It runs to 51 pages, 18 focusing on the development of Iraq's bomb design. Topics included physical theory, the atomic core and high-explosive experiments. By early October, diplomats and officials said, United Nations arms inspectors in New York and their counterparts in Vienna were alarmed and discussing what to do.

Last week in Vienna, Olli J. Heinonen, head of safeguards at the international atomic agency, expressed concern about the documents to Schulte, diplomats said.

http://news.com.com/U.S.+Web+archive+said+to+reveal+nuclear+primer+-+page+2/2100-7348_3-6132220-2.html?tag=st.num


300 posted on 11/03/2006 5:30:53 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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